EPT[Patch 4.12] RIP Lucian General Discussion - Page 16
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On July 18 2014 02:50 GrandInquisitor wrote: I agree that I can dial back the spellcasting and/or rush Sheen (I was going Phage first) given that Essence Reaver is an awkward item and you would prefer not to build it. That being said, "bad mana management" or "playing too passive in lane"? Using your spells more means more harass and zoning. Using your Q on cooldown applies much more pressure than holding back. You can play Ziggs and never run out of mana too, especially if you base every other wave, but I doubt your team would appreciate that. I am sorry if it you got offended but that is just how it works.I have over 100 games on lucian and even before this patch and have never encountered mana issues even with e costing 60 mana and q being slightly more expensive running 21/9 without mreg blues. Also no you cant do that on ziggs you wouldn't go back to lane on time unless you are fine with losing cs for no reason. | ||
GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
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IamPryda
United States1186 Posts
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Cheap0
United States540 Posts
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21936 Posts
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
On July 18 2014 07:02 Cheap0 wrote: It seems like the key to winning Doom Bots is just to split push all day cause they're terrible at dealing with it. Yup, get a couple champs who are good at clear and have them stack CDR and AP. Then have the rest of the team split. Also pinks and blue trinket prevent Garens. | ||
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TheSinisterRed
United States1546 Posts
On July 18 2014 07:04 Gorsameth wrote: Ok so all this talk about top lucian has me curious. What kind of runepage/item build would you run it with? You want a lot of CDR but where are you going to get it from? I believe earlier they were discussing using scaling CDR blues, the 5% from masteries, CDR boots and then brutalizer. At level 18 that should give you max, and if you can grab a blue buff or a blue pot in the midgame you can hit 40% as well. It sounds very fun. Not sure how good it is. | ||
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chalice
United States1945 Posts
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
BUY MANA POTIONS ON ADC THEY ARE AWESOME seriously I think I went from plat 2-diamond 4 with no changes aside from marginally better last hitting and buying 5 mana pots every time I go back with MF/Cait | ||
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Complete
United States1864 Posts
that feels extreme :p | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On July 18 2014 07:52 Complete wrote: 5 mana potions??? that feels extreme :p ya i feel like 2-3 at max. i almost never buy then except on like luci and draven though. sometimes 1-2 on caitlyn too | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On July 18 2014 07:39 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: If you're having mana problems I feel bad for you son BUY MANA POTIONS ON ADC THEY ARE AWESOME seriously I think I went from plat 2-diamond 4 with no changes aside from marginally better last hitting and buying 5 mana pots every time I go back with MF/Cait This is the key to winning lane as Ashe. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21936 Posts
Yeah I try and make sure I always have a mana pot as ashe after my first buy until some time into the midgame. It really helps. As for top Lucian. Holy... played vs Garen en Fiora and dominated both badly while dashes helped me survive in teamfights. Havnt played against very dive heavy comps tho so they may change it but loving it sofar. Edit: Be ready for some flaming tho because boy do people not have faith in anything deviating from the norm. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21936 Posts
On July 18 2014 07:31 chalice wrote: 2 quints is 5% cdr at level 1 and 3 scaling glyphs is 5% at level 18. seems like a fairly economical way to end up at 40% with cdr boots and one 10% cdr item. your losing a lot of your early bullying with those 2 quints tho. donno if its worth it compared to full scaling glyphs. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35160 Posts
Varus and Velkoz ult buffs. Ziggs ult nerf. More splashes than magikarp v magikarp. | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On July 18 2014 08:27 Gahlo wrote: http://www.surrenderat20.net/2014/07/717-pbe-update.html Varus and Velkoz ult buffs. Ziggs ult nerf. More splashes than magikarp v magikarp. Wish they gave varus a real buff so he wouldnt be so useless qq. | ||
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IMoperator
4476 Posts
bork into randuins + full tank stuff works like old khazix where you jump in and slow everyone and you have just enough damage so people will still need to focus you unless they want their squishies dead I would test it out but I havent played in ~2 months and I'll just do bad with it, so maybe someone here can try it for me if they're curious and not busy? think it would work? | ||
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Gahlo
United States35160 Posts
On July 18 2014 08:38 IMoperator wrote: yo i theorycrafted a tank zed build bork into randuins + full tank stuff works like old khazix where you jump in and slow everyone and you have just enough damage so people will still need to focus you unless they want their squishies dead I would test it out but I havent played in ~2 months and I'll just do bad with it, so maybe someone here can try it for me if they're curious and not busy? think it would work? Set aside my scepticism that Zed wouldn't have enough damage, part of what made tank Kha work was that his ult basically doubled his effective health. | ||
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