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[Patch 4.12] RIP Lucian General Discussion - Page 17

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Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
July 17 2014 23:54 GMT
#321
On July 18 2014 08:32 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2014 08:27 Gahlo wrote:
http://www.surrenderat20.net/2014/07/717-pbe-update.html

Varus and Velkoz ult buffs. Ziggs ult nerf. More splashes than magikarp v magikarp.

Wish they gave varus a real buff so he wouldnt be so useless qq.

A 20 sec cd buff is reasonably significant.

I do agree he's kinda bleh right now tho.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
July 17 2014 23:59 GMT
#322
Anyone wanna do premade doom bots?
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
miicah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2470 Posts
July 18 2014 00:01 GMT
#323
Bringing Galio up again as it was mentioned by a red, but I think it would be cool if Galio could not be CC'd by people already in his ult. So for example if you flash ulted an Udyr that happened to have his bear stun ready, it wouldn't stun you - but if there was an Annie right next to him she would be able to proc her passive and break the channel.
@miicah88
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
July 18 2014 00:02 GMT
#324
The thing that's kind of stupid about essence reaver is that you get it for the mana sustain, but you don't get any until you complete the item. I don't think there's anything else like that in the game.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
miicah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2470 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-18 00:05:37
July 18 2014 00:05 GMT
#325
Why does debonair Ez have wayfarers on lol???
@miicah88
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
July 18 2014 00:46 GMT
#326
On July 18 2014 08:38 IMoperator wrote:
yo i theorycrafted a tank zed build

bork into randuins + full tank stuff

works like old khazix where you jump in and slow everyone and you have just enough damage so people will still need to focus you unless they want their squishies dead

I would test it out but I havent played in ~2 months and I'll just do bad with it, so maybe someone here can try it for me if they're curious and not busy?

think it would work?

well i tried my build on my gold account, and of course i get a 4v5 so i didnt actually get to test it -_-

remembered why i quit playing this game in the first place.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35164 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-18 01:12:27
July 18 2014 00:57 GMT
#327
On July 18 2014 09:02 GolemMadness wrote:
The thing that's kind of stupid about essence reaver is that you get it for the mana sustain, but you don't get any until you complete the item. I don't think there's anything else like that in the game.

Atma's. The only reason to buy it is Armor/AD, yet you get 0 AD until you complete it.

On July 18 2014 08:54 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2014 08:32 nafta wrote:
On July 18 2014 08:27 Gahlo wrote:
http://www.surrenderat20.net/2014/07/717-pbe-update.html

Varus and Velkoz ult buffs. Ziggs ult nerf. More splashes than magikarp v magikarp.

Wish they gave varus a real buff so he wouldnt be so useless qq.

A 20 sec cd buff is reasonably significant.

I do agree he's kinda bleh right now tho.

The problem with the change, if we're going to use Riot terminology, is that it doesn't improve his intended "strength." Sure, it helps his early-mid game by letting him use his ult more in skirmishes, but an AOE CC initiating ADC's spotlight should be teamfights, where his ult will usually be up regardless.

Where it really matters, this is largely a neutral change.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-18 01:43:40
July 18 2014 01:43 GMT
#328
On July 18 2014 09:57 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2014 09:02 GolemMadness wrote:
The thing that's kind of stupid about essence reaver is that you get it for the mana sustain, but you don't get any until you complete the item. I don't think there's anything else like that in the game.

Atma's. The only reason to buy it is Armor/AD, yet you get 0 AD until you complete it.

Show nested quote +
On July 18 2014 08:54 Ryuu314 wrote:
On July 18 2014 08:32 nafta wrote:
On July 18 2014 08:27 Gahlo wrote:
http://www.surrenderat20.net/2014/07/717-pbe-update.html

Varus and Velkoz ult buffs. Ziggs ult nerf. More splashes than magikarp v magikarp.

Wish they gave varus a real buff so he wouldnt be so useless qq.

A 20 sec cd buff is reasonably significant.

I do agree he's kinda bleh right now tho.

The problem with the change, if we're going to use Riot terminology, is that it doesn't improve his intended "strength." Sure, it helps his early-mid game by letting him use his ult more in skirmishes, but an AOE CC initiating ADC's spotlight should be teamfights, where his ult will usually be up regardless.

Where it really matters, this is largely a neutral change.

They should fix the range on his ult sometimes it looks like it hits but then literally does nothing tbh.
or make it come out faster but that might make him too strong.

also doom bots are fun; but if you get a couple kills early you can still easily over come the bots handicaps though
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
July 18 2014 01:45 GMT
#329
On July 18 2014 09:57 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2014 09:02 GolemMadness wrote:
The thing that's kind of stupid about essence reaver is that you get it for the mana sustain, but you don't get any until you complete the item. I don't think there's anything else like that in the game.

Atma's. The only reason to buy it is Armor/AD, yet you get 0 AD until you complete it.

Show nested quote +
On July 18 2014 08:54 Ryuu314 wrote:
On July 18 2014 08:32 nafta wrote:
On July 18 2014 08:27 Gahlo wrote:
http://www.surrenderat20.net/2014/07/717-pbe-update.html

Varus and Velkoz ult buffs. Ziggs ult nerf. More splashes than magikarp v magikarp.

Wish they gave varus a real buff so he wouldnt be so useless qq.

A 20 sec cd buff is reasonably significant.

I do agree he's kinda bleh right now tho.

The problem with the change, if we're going to use Riot terminology, is that it doesn't improve his intended "strength." Sure, it helps his early-mid game by letting him use his ult more in skirmishes, but an AOE CC initiating ADC's spotlight should be teamfights, where his ult will usually be up regardless.

Where it really matters, this is largely a neutral change.

Yeah pretty much.

What riot need to do is add a real ad caster item already.Reaver isn't good enough as an old bt equivalent for them.Until that happens don't think we will see any of mf/graves/sivir/varus.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-18 01:47:13
July 18 2014 01:46 GMT
#330
I don't think you can do doom 5 with 4 REALLY bad players. When I mentioned it teemo and nasus claimed their builds were standard....

[image loading]

Zyra bot is fucking godly. Pretty much guaranteed to gib you if you're squishy.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-18 01:46:57
July 18 2014 01:46 GMT
#331
First time doom bot mode, 5 bomb with random gracken420 premade

LET'S GO

and oh man that wits end nasus
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
July 18 2014 01:48 GMT
#332
On July 18 2014 10:46 Amui wrote:
I don't think you can do doom 5 with 4 REALLY bad players. When I mentioned it teemo and nasus claimed their builds were standard....

[image loading]

Zyra bot is fucking godly. Pretty much guaranteed to gib you if you're squishy.

idk its pretty hard to troll those bots, tehy dont put up with no shit.

also the swain doom handicap is probably the most ridiculous thing on earth
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35164 Posts
July 18 2014 01:52 GMT
#333
On July 18 2014 10:46 Amui wrote:
I don't think you can do doom 5 with 4 REALLY bad players. When I mentioned it teemo and nasus claimed their builds were standard....

[image loading]

Zyra bot is fucking godly. Pretty much guaranteed to gib you if you're squishy.

Honestly, the Teemo build is pretty legit for the most part.
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
July 18 2014 01:55 GMT
#334
You need two things to beat Doom Bots on 5

1) Teammates who aren't retarded

2) Lots of wave clear, poke, and siege

3) Lots of 1 and 2.

Just lost a game because the otherwise decent tristana raged so hard that our Karthus quit
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
July 18 2014 02:03 GMT
#335
On July 18 2014 10:55 Goumindong wrote:
You need two things to beat Doom Bots on 5

1) Teammates who aren't retarded

2) Lots of wave clear, poke, and siege

3) Lots of 1 and 2.

Just lost a game because the otherwise decent tristana raged so hard that our Karthus quit

you can honestly just split diff lanes and win that way.
they would send 5 toa lane; we'd have 3 play d 1 in each otherlane push and get a tower here a tower there, maybe trade 2 for 3 or something, but they'll back to defend and thats when you back and repeat till you win
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
miicah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2470 Posts
July 18 2014 02:10 GMT
#336
Rat 2 stronk
@miicah88
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
July 18 2014 02:46 GMT
#337
We just won with Cait/Nid bot, Velkoz mid, Zil/Ez top on 5 bomb. Shit was super fun hahaha.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
July 18 2014 02:47 GMT
#338
it's pretty easy to 1v1 a bot. 2v2+ is where it gets tough. 1-3-1 splitpush makes the mode pretty easy.

In related news, Morg bot is fucking op.
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-18 03:03:06
July 18 2014 03:02 GMT
#339
Several people have said it's way too easy and boring, they've then gone on to say they just picked waveclear and split pushed.

If you want a challenge, pick melee champions, and stay grouped. Makes it so much more intense :p
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-18 03:07:02
July 18 2014 03:05 GMT
#340
On July 18 2014 11:03 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2014 10:55 Goumindong wrote:
You need two things to beat Doom Bots on 5

1) Teammates who aren't retarded

2) Lots of wave clear, poke, and siege

3) Lots of 1 and 2.

Just lost a game because the otherwise decent tristana raged so hard that our Karthus quit

you can honestly just split diff lanes and win that way.
they would send 5 toa lane; we'd have 3 play d 1 in each otherlane push and get a tower here a tower there, maybe trade 2 for 3 or something, but they'll back to defend and thats when you back and repeat till you win

Worked for me on 2 but not on 5. On 5 mummy and wukong will combo dive you with ults as large as your base.

If you have a lot of ranged clear and siege you can do it but they clear so fast it's not guaranteed unless you have the 1 and 2 I mentioned.
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