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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On July 18 2014 08:32 nafta wrote: Wish they gave varus a real buff so he wouldnt be so useless qq. A 20 sec cd buff is reasonably significant. I do agree he's kinda bleh right now tho. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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miicah
Australia2470 Posts
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
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miicah
Australia2470 Posts
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IMoperator
4476 Posts
On July 18 2014 08:38 IMoperator wrote: yo i theorycrafted a tank zed build bork into randuins + full tank stuff works like old khazix where you jump in and slow everyone and you have just enough damage so people will still need to focus you unless they want their squishies dead I would test it out but I havent played in ~2 months and I'll just do bad with it, so maybe someone here can try it for me if they're curious and not busy? think it would work? well i tried my build on my gold account, and of course i get a 4v5 so i didnt actually get to test it -_- remembered why i quit playing this game in the first place. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On July 18 2014 09:02 GolemMadness wrote: The thing that's kind of stupid about essence reaver is that you get it for the mana sustain, but you don't get any until you complete the item. I don't think there's anything else like that in the game. Atma's. The only reason to buy it is Armor/AD, yet you get 0 AD until you complete it. On July 18 2014 08:54 Ryuu314 wrote: A 20 sec cd buff is reasonably significant. I do agree he's kinda bleh right now tho. The problem with the change, if we're going to use Riot terminology, is that it doesn't improve his intended "strength." Sure, it helps his early-mid game by letting him use his ult more in skirmishes, but an AOE CC initiating ADC's spotlight should be teamfights, where his ult will usually be up regardless. Where it really matters, this is largely a neutral change. | ||
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
On July 18 2014 09:57 Gahlo wrote: Atma's. The only reason to buy it is Armor/AD, yet you get 0 AD until you complete it. The problem with the change, if we're going to use Riot terminology, is that it doesn't improve his intended "strength." Sure, it helps his early-mid game by letting him use his ult more in skirmishes, but an AOE CC initiating ADC's spotlight should be teamfights, where his ult will usually be up regardless. Where it really matters, this is largely a neutral change. They should fix the range on his ult sometimes it looks like it hits but then literally does nothing tbh. or make it come out faster but that might make him too strong. also doom bots are fun; but if you get a couple kills early you can still easily over come the bots handicaps though | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On July 18 2014 09:57 Gahlo wrote: Atma's. The only reason to buy it is Armor/AD, yet you get 0 AD until you complete it. The problem with the change, if we're going to use Riot terminology, is that it doesn't improve his intended "strength." Sure, it helps his early-mid game by letting him use his ult more in skirmishes, but an AOE CC initiating ADC's spotlight should be teamfights, where his ult will usually be up regardless. Where it really matters, this is largely a neutral change. Yeah pretty much. What riot need to do is add a real ad caster item already.Reaver isn't good enough as an old bt equivalent for them.Until that happens don't think we will see any of mf/graves/sivir/varus. | ||
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/En6PRa8.jpg) Zyra bot is fucking godly. Pretty much guaranteed to gib you if you're squishy. | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
LET'S GO and oh man that wits end nasus | ||
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
On July 18 2014 10:46 Amui wrote: I don't think you can do doom 5 with 4 REALLY bad players. When I mentioned it teemo and nasus claimed their builds were standard.... Zyra bot is fucking godly. Pretty much guaranteed to gib you if you're squishy. idk its pretty hard to troll those bots, tehy dont put up with no shit. also the swain doom handicap is probably the most ridiculous thing on earth | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On July 18 2014 10:46 Amui wrote: I don't think you can do doom 5 with 4 REALLY bad players. When I mentioned it teemo and nasus claimed their builds were standard.... Zyra bot is fucking godly. Pretty much guaranteed to gib you if you're squishy. Honestly, the Teemo build is pretty legit for the most part. | ||
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
1) Teammates who aren't retarded 2) Lots of wave clear, poke, and siege 3) Lots of 1 and 2. Just lost a game because the otherwise decent tristana raged so hard that our Karthus quit | ||
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
On July 18 2014 10:55 Goumindong wrote: You need two things to beat Doom Bots on 5 1) Teammates who aren't retarded 2) Lots of wave clear, poke, and siege 3) Lots of 1 and 2. Just lost a game because the otherwise decent tristana raged so hard that our Karthus quit you can honestly just split diff lanes and win that way. they would send 5 toa lane; we'd have 3 play d 1 in each otherlane push and get a tower here a tower there, maybe trade 2 for 3 or something, but they'll back to defend and thats when you back and repeat till you win | ||
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miicah
Australia2470 Posts
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
In related news, Morg bot is fucking op. | ||
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killerdog
Denmark6522 Posts
If you want a challenge, pick melee champions, and stay grouped. Makes it so much more intense :p | ||
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
On July 18 2014 11:03 arb wrote: you can honestly just split diff lanes and win that way. they would send 5 toa lane; we'd have 3 play d 1 in each otherlane push and get a tower here a tower there, maybe trade 2 for 3 or something, but they'll back to defend and thats when you back and repeat till you win Worked for me on 2 but not on 5. On 5 mummy and wukong will combo dive you with ults as large as your base. If you have a lot of ranged clear and siege you can do it but they clear so fast it's not guaranteed unless you have the 1 and 2 I mentioned. | ||
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