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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 08 2014 21:15 GMT
#861
Teach me how to play LoL again
It's your boy Guzma!
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
July 08 2014 21:19 GMT
#862
Don't duo with Ghandi.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-08 21:24:20
July 08 2014 21:23 GMT
#863
WTF

Req clearly dragged me down those games.
+ Show Spoiler +
I'm still open to duoing with u if you wanna learn tho bby
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
July 08 2014 21:46 GMT
#864
On July 09 2014 06:23 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
WTF

Req clearly dragged me down those games.
+ Show Spoiler +
I'm still open to duoing with u if you wanna learn tho bby


I don't even have to watch to know you're probably equally if not more responsible.
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
July 08 2014 21:48 GMT
#865
On July 09 2014 06:46 zer0das wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2014 06:23 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
WTF

Req clearly dragged me down those games.
+ Show Spoiler +
I'm still open to duoing with u if you wanna learn tho bby


I don't even have to watch to know you're probably equally if not more responsible.

Why you guys always gotta be so BM ;;
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
July 08 2014 21:50 GMT
#866
i feel like riot should add an icon for when youre getting the regen from golem stone/armor thing imo.
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
July 08 2014 22:12 GMT
#867
On July 09 2014 05:30 Ryuu314 wrote:
So apparently Lucian's E on PBE gets its cd reduced per passive hit. So, if you land both passive hits on an enemy champion, his E cooldown gets reduced by 4 seconds. So if you weave your abilities and autoattacks well, his E is potentially the same or lower cooldown as Vayne's tumble. Lucian's damage output will also be pretty insane with constant passive activations.

Personally don't think this will make up for losing 50 autoattack range, but sounds pretty interesting regardless.


Lightslinger is only one attack, it should be 6 seconds. You would have to chain another ability in there to make it lower.
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
July 08 2014 22:19 GMT
#868
I hate free mobility. Sure they're gutting range to compensate, but I really hate free mobility.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-08 22:19:43
July 08 2014 22:19 GMT
#869
On July 09 2014 07:12 Goumindong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2014 05:30 Ryuu314 wrote:
So apparently Lucian's E on PBE gets its cd reduced per passive hit. So, if you land both passive hits on an enemy champion, his E cooldown gets reduced by 4 seconds. So if you weave your abilities and autoattacks well, his E is potentially the same or lower cooldown as Vayne's tumble. Lucian's damage output will also be pretty insane with constant passive activations.

Personally don't think this will make up for losing 50 autoattack range, but sounds pretty interesting regardless.


Lightslinger is only one attack, it should be 6 seconds. You would have to chain another ability in there to make it lower.

Both the regular auto and the extra shot count unless the pbe guys are bsing .

Kinda worried he is just gonna be a shitty vayne after lane though.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-08 22:23:53
July 08 2014 22:23 GMT
#870
New patcher and launcher heading to the PBE.

Edit: Seems mostly visual at this point but it looks prettier.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
GreggSauce
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States566 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-08 22:32:29
July 08 2014 22:31 GMT
#871
On July 09 2014 05:52 Alaric wrote:
... so "before when you ulted people where dead and you didn't need good execution to chain his spells". I said "He actually required some minor timing to hit it previously, but because he's frozen in place now there's even less execution involved in "comboing"." and you replied "no you're wrong, it was noskill and people died, not it needs execution", but don't say how.

So I'm wondering: how does Pantheon require more execution now that they've removed the ability for him to actually do stuff during his ult and as such is set in the timing for casting his combo post-ult?


you answered your own question... -_- I really have no idea how to answer this.

edit i guess the best way to say it is, this opens the window for counter-play, as you have to cast when you land, instead of being casted upon landing... it's really not a hard concept to grasp.
Must not sleep, must warn others
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-08 22:56:58
July 08 2014 22:45 GMT
#872
You were going on about how the change stopped noobs from abusing the noskill OP Pantheon like FotM though. An in that regard, if they reduce the amount of things you can do and influence, then it lowers the skill needed to make the most out of the same situation.
So no, it doesn't "help sort the baddies who abused the OP" or anything, since on the contrary it reduces the gap between them (even supposing they exist, again Pantheon is nowhere near broken) and the "legitimate Pantheon players", if anything.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
July 08 2014 22:49 GMT
#873
sry for brag but i just logged on for the first time in like a month and found out phreak still hasnt removed me
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
July 08 2014 22:55 GMT
#874
Means he forgot about you and didn't notice, nothing to brag about. Come back when upon your logging in he comes up and asks you how you've been.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
July 08 2014 23:04 GMT
#875
On July 09 2014 06:07 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2014 06:03 Nos- wrote:
lucian's E at rank 5 was always free

wow i literally did not notice his e actually goes down in mana cost
LOL WTF

It was the only thing he got from ranks. I wonder what the rank up reward is now
Carrilord has arrived.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
July 08 2014 23:19 GMT
#876
On July 09 2014 08:04 Slusher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2014 06:07 arb wrote:
On July 09 2014 06:03 Nos- wrote:
lucian's E at rank 5 was always free

wow i literally did not notice his e actually goes down in mana cost
LOL WTF

It was the only thing he got from ranks. I wonder what the rank up reward is now

i just assumed the cooldown went down, never noticed the mana cost
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
GreggSauce
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States566 Posts
July 08 2014 23:29 GMT
#877
On July 09 2014 07:45 Alaric wrote:
You were going on about how the change stopped noobs from abusing the noskill OP Pantheon like FotM though. An in that regard, if they reduce the amount of things you can do and influence, then it lowers the skill needed to make the most out of the same situation.
So no, it doesn't "help sort the baddies who abused the OP" or anything, since on the contrary it reduces the gap between them (even supposing they exist, again Pantheon is nowhere near broken) and the "legitimate Pantheon players", if anything.


I think you have a reading comprehension problem, or something... How pantheon's ult works now including not being able to cast while ulted is a nerf, and it directly nerfs players who don't have the reaction speed to select the right target quick enough, which I will list as BAD pantheon players.

A great example is me, my pantheon is shit, but I've been able to carry games with him before because he was just "ult, cast skills, kill, simple" now a lot more planning has to go into it, and i'm useless as pantheon.

Stop responding.

On July 09 2014 08:19 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2014 08:04 Slusher wrote:
On July 09 2014 06:07 arb wrote:
On July 09 2014 06:03 Nos- wrote:
lucian's E at rank 5 was always free

wow i literally did not notice his e actually goes down in mana cost
LOL WTF

It was the only thing he got from ranks. I wonder what the rank up reward is now

i just assumed the cooldown went down, never noticed the mana cost


yeah that guy is wrong cdr goes down too, but it eventually becomes mana less in the current iteration

User was warned for this post
Must not sleep, must warn others
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
July 08 2014 23:33 GMT
#878
it also is bad for players with higher ping probably though it depends if you are allowed to queue up when you land or not im not sure
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
July 08 2014 23:35 GMT
#879
Oh Mr. Sauce. How is spending the entirety of channelling your ult spamming 'W' on a priority champion so when you land it hits them any more or less skillful than doing the same thing, but to a better effect?

I suspect, based on your trolling the Olaf thread, you also are trolling this one.
Freeeeeeedom
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
July 08 2014 23:54 GMT
#880
Is it me or did NA die.....
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
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