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On July 08 2014 23:47 Alaric wrote:
Last one was Ziggs. Only reduced the amount of solo kills he got in early laning, so they thought it'd be fine.
The game mechanics at the time (exhaust, FB bounty) protected him from it mattering. [not that I think you disagree with the main point]
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I was ironic.  Plus, Ziggs needed something to be done about him (and still needs it). And obviously going from above average to average is differet from going from average to subpar.
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I didn't even realize zigg's had his auto range nerfed
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On July 08 2014 23:44 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 23:23 JimmiC wrote:
I'm pretty sure riot makes drastic nerfs in the PBE so people can freak out and then they can make their real change and people are like, that's not bad. Where if they made that first people would freak about it. I'm sure this won't go through, just like all the other bonkers nerfs that never went through. It's the fact that they even considered it is hilarious. They have goldfish-tier memory, it's like they forgot what happened to every single fucking champion that got a ranged nerf.
well I'm inclined to agree with JimmiC.
there's actually been quite a lot of drastic nerfs/buffs that appear on PBE that never actually make it into the game. unless the change is more or less confirmed by a red post, I'd always take extreme changes with a grain of salt.
for example, remember the proposed Pantheon nerfs a few months back on PBE? Those never appeared on live AND they even had Smash given context for them.
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idk call me batshit retarded but I don't think Lucian stands out all that much anymore after the item changes.
he's just really good, along with 3-4 other ads
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On July 09 2014 00:39 Ryuu314 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 23:44 wei2coolman wrote:On July 08 2014 23:23 JimmiC wrote:
I'm pretty sure riot makes drastic nerfs in the PBE so people can freak out and then they can make their real change and people are like, that's not bad. Where if they made that first people would freak about it. I'm sure this won't go through, just like all the other bonkers nerfs that never went through. It's the fact that they even considered it is hilarious. They have goldfish-tier memory, it's like they forgot what happened to every single fucking champion that got a ranged nerf. well I'm inclined to agree with JimmiC. there's actually been quite a lot of drastic nerfs/buffs that appear on PBE that never actually make it into the game. unless the change is more or less confirmed by a red post, I'd always take extreme changes with a grain of salt. f or example, remember the proposed Pantheon nerfs a few months back on PBE? Those never appeared on live AND they even had Smash given context for them.
Yeah, they just stealth nerfed him when they removed the ability to queue up spells during man drop and killed him that way :p
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On July 09 2014 02:47 onlywonderboy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 00:39 Ryuu314 wrote:On July 08 2014 23:44 wei2coolman wrote:On July 08 2014 23:23 JimmiC wrote:
I'm pretty sure riot makes drastic nerfs in the PBE so people can freak out and then they can make their real change and people are like, that's not bad. Where if they made that first people would freak about it. I'm sure this won't go through, just like all the other bonkers nerfs that never went through. It's the fact that they even considered it is hilarious. They have goldfish-tier memory, it's like they forgot what happened to every single fucking champion that got a ranged nerf. well I'm inclined to agree with JimmiC. there's actually been quite a lot of drastic nerfs/buffs that appear on PBE that never actually make it into the game. unless the change is more or less confirmed by a red post, I'd always take extreme changes with a grain of salt. f or example, remember the proposed Pantheon nerfs a few months back on PBE? Those never appeared on live AND they even had Smash given context for them. Yeah, they just stealth nerfed him when they removed the ability to queue up spells during man drop and killed him that way :p
people still play him though
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On July 09 2014 02:57 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 02:47 onlywonderboy wrote:On July 09 2014 00:39 Ryuu314 wrote:On July 08 2014 23:44 wei2coolman wrote:On July 08 2014 23:23 JimmiC wrote:
I'm pretty sure riot makes drastic nerfs in the PBE so people can freak out and then they can make their real change and people are like, that's not bad. Where if they made that first people would freak about it. I'm sure this won't go through, just like all the other bonkers nerfs that never went through. It's the fact that they even considered it is hilarious. They have goldfish-tier memory, it's like they forgot what happened to every single fucking champion that got a ranged nerf. well I'm inclined to agree with JimmiC. there's actually been quite a lot of drastic nerfs/buffs that appear on PBE that never actually make it into the game. unless the change is more or less confirmed by a red post, I'd always take extreme changes with a grain of salt. f or example, remember the proposed Pantheon nerfs a few months back on PBE? Those never appeared on live AND they even had Smash given context for them. Yeah, they just stealth nerfed him when they removed the ability to queue up spells during man drop and killed him that way :p people still play him though
I was under the impression that nerf made him near unplayable. I haven't been playing much recently, just watching, so I'm probably wrong.
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On July 09 2014 02:57 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 02:47 onlywonderboy wrote:On July 09 2014 00:39 Ryuu314 wrote:On July 08 2014 23:44 wei2coolman wrote:On July 08 2014 23:23 JimmiC wrote:
I'm pretty sure riot makes drastic nerfs in the PBE so people can freak out and then they can make their real change and people are like, that's not bad. Where if they made that first people would freak about it. I'm sure this won't go through, just like all the other bonkers nerfs that never went through. It's the fact that they even considered it is hilarious. They have goldfish-tier memory, it's like they forgot what happened to every single fucking champion that got a ranged nerf. well I'm inclined to agree with JimmiC. there's actually been quite a lot of drastic nerfs/buffs that appear on PBE that never actually make it into the game. unless the change is more or less confirmed by a red post, I'd always take extreme changes with a grain of salt. f or example, remember the proposed Pantheon nerfs a few months back on PBE? Those never appeared on live AND they even had Smash given context for them. Yeah, they just stealth nerfed him when they removed the ability to queue up spells during man drop and killed him that way :p people still play him though
Every Panth I played with recently fed uncontrollably.
I'm enjoying Nid jungle quite a bit in normals, she has decent clear and her ganks aren't that bad.
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On July 09 2014 03:20 onlywonderboy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 02:57 arb wrote:On July 09 2014 02:47 onlywonderboy wrote:On July 09 2014 00:39 Ryuu314 wrote:On July 08 2014 23:44 wei2coolman wrote:On July 08 2014 23:23 JimmiC wrote:
I'm pretty sure riot makes drastic nerfs in the PBE so people can freak out and then they can make their real change and people are like, that's not bad. Where if they made that first people would freak about it. I'm sure this won't go through, just like all the other bonkers nerfs that never went through. It's the fact that they even considered it is hilarious. They have goldfish-tier memory, it's like they forgot what happened to every single fucking champion that got a ranged nerf. well I'm inclined to agree with JimmiC. there's actually been quite a lot of drastic nerfs/buffs that appear on PBE that never actually make it into the game. unless the change is more or less confirmed by a red post, I'd always take extreme changes with a grain of salt. f or example, remember the proposed Pantheon nerfs a few months back on PBE? Those never appeared on live AND they even had Smash given context for them. Yeah, they just stealth nerfed him when they removed the ability to queue up spells during man drop and killed him that way :p people still play him though I was under the impression that nerf made him near unplayable. I haven't been playing much recently, just watching, so I'm probably wrong.
do people actually think like that?
lead the ult a bit and its almost like you dont need to queue up; they didnt actually nerf his damage or anything
literally every champion thats been deemed "unplayable" is still good besides like Poppy or something I guess even Olaf is still usable and not totally awful, glad i dont see him anymore tho bc he was fucking frustrating to play against S2/S#
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perhaps unplayable is a too strong of a word? the nerf hurt him, A LOT
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Havent seen panth in more than a month.He is pretty meh.Gets useless too fast if you don't snowball hard.
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On July 09 2014 03:27 nafta wrote:
Havent seen panth in more than a month.He is pretty meh.Gets useless too fast if you don't snowball hard.
so because they nerfed his ult, didnt touch his damage he isnt gonna snowball as hard? l0l.
item changes would probably be a bigger impact
unplayable is way too strong of a word imo.
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On July 09 2014 03:27 nafta wrote:
Havent seen panth in more than a month.He is pretty meh.Gets useless too fast if you don't snowball hard.
Hasn't that always been the case? snowbard hard or become useless lategame?
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On July 09 2014 03:36 Pulimuli wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 03:27 nafta wrote:
Havent seen panth in more than a month.He is pretty meh.Gets useless too fast if you don't snowball hard. Hasn't that always been the case? snowbard hard or become useless lategame?
i think thats been what ive heard about pantheon since i started playing before season 1 lol
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Pantheon ability to gank (especially bot, which was most of his role) and initiate (gives more time to react) has been nerfed pretty hard by this though, and it was one of the main draws of jungle Pantheon. When was the last time you saw a lane Pantheon?
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On July 09 2014 03:24 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 03:20 onlywonderboy wrote:On July 09 2014 02:57 arb wrote:On July 09 2014 02:47 onlywonderboy wrote:On July 09 2014 00:39 Ryuu314 wrote:On July 08 2014 23:44 wei2coolman wrote:On July 08 2014 23:23 JimmiC wrote:
I'm pretty sure riot makes drastic nerfs in the PBE so people can freak out and then they can make their real change and people are like, that's not bad. Where if they made that first people would freak about it. I'm sure this won't go through, just like all the other bonkers nerfs that never went through. It's the fact that they even considered it is hilarious. They have goldfish-tier memory, it's like they forgot what happened to every single fucking champion that got a ranged nerf. well I'm inclined to agree with JimmiC. there's actually been quite a lot of drastic nerfs/buffs that appear on PBE that never actually make it into the game. unless the change is more or less confirmed by a red post, I'd always take extreme changes with a grain of salt. f or example, remember the proposed Pantheon nerfs a few months back on PBE? Those never appeared on live AND they even had Smash given context for them. Yeah, they just stealth nerfed him when they removed the ability to queue up spells during man drop and killed him that way :p people still play him though I was under the impression that nerf made him near unplayable. I haven't been playing much recently, just watching, so I'm probably wrong. do people actually think like that? lead the ult a bit and its almost like you dont need to queue up; they didnt actually nerf his damage or anything literally every champion thats been deemed "unplayable" is still good besides like Poppy or something I guess even Olaf is still usable and not totally awful, glad i dont see him anymore tho bc he was fucking frustrating to play against S2/S#
i'm olaf and i'm offended that you think i'm unplayable  anyway he's pretty bad for most players now, it's like when they reworked zed to be more about skill, less about having a scary f'n easy kit or the nerfs to kayle. you get to see who really is good at the champs, or who was just good because of the brokeness
On July 09 2014 03:20 onlywonderboy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 02:57 arb wrote:On July 09 2014 02:47 onlywonderboy wrote:On July 09 2014 00:39 Ryuu314 wrote:On July 08 2014 23:44 wei2coolman wrote:On July 08 2014 23:23 JimmiC wrote:
I'm pretty sure riot makes drastic nerfs in the PBE so people can freak out and then they can make their real change and people are like, that's not bad. Where if they made that first people would freak about it. I'm sure this won't go through, just like all the other bonkers nerfs that never went through. It's the fact that they even considered it is hilarious. They have goldfish-tier memory, it's like they forgot what happened to every single fucking champion that got a ranged nerf. well I'm inclined to agree with JimmiC. there's actually been quite a lot of drastic nerfs/buffs that appear on PBE that never actually make it into the game. unless the change is more or less confirmed by a red post, I'd always take extreme changes with a grain of salt. f or example, remember the proposed Pantheon nerfs a few months back on PBE? Those never appeared on live AND they even had Smash given context for them. Yeah, they just stealth nerfed him when they removed the ability to queue up spells during man drop and killed him that way :p people still play him though I was under the impression that nerf made him near unplayable. I haven't been playing much recently, just watching, so I'm probably wrong.
nah just makes it really hard for bad players to execute everything on time
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