EPTJust saying someone has 3 items doesn't indicate this specific moment.
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
Just saying someone has 3 items doesn't indicate this specific moment. | ||
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red_
United States8474 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35172 Posts
On June 30 2014 07:56 Crusnik wrote: Can we all just get along? Or maybe just discuss how amazing Bubbadub's stache is? I think he looks a LOT better without the stache. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
On June 30 2014 08:59 JimmiC wrote: How do I report this guy for this clear blasphemy, I haven't even seen it and it's clear that he's better with the stache because you are always better with a stache. no there is a fine line between Manly man moustache(which will cause everyone to admire and call you a god), Pedophile stache(which are painfully obvious and will result ine veryone hating you) and cheesy 70's pornstar stache (kinda neutral but good for a few laughs) | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
Just killed a 3/0/3 TF with a 0/0/7 Leona. Like... wut... How bad did they nerf him exactly? o.o | ||
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
On June 30 2014 10:23 iCanada wrote: Man is TF weak 1v1 now. ROFL. Just killed a 3/0/3 TF with a 0/0/7 Leona. Like... wut... How bad did they nerf him exactly? o.o you will never kill anyone 1v1 as TF unless they severely over extend, or youre extreme fed, or you get to 6 items even then you'll never kill any tank straight up without something like the above being met the last nerf to him was like, his teleport duration he hasnt been touched at all i dont think, he's still really strong | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
On June 30 2014 10:40 wei2coolman wrote: TF got nerfed in recent patch cuz of chalice nerf. You never needed chalice on Tf. l0l. I still never get it and do fine. It's okay but i dont think its anywhere close to needed/necessary on him liek it is some other mids | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On June 30 2014 10:46 arb wrote: You never needed chalice on Tf. l0l. I still never get it and do fine. It's okay but i dont think its anywhere close to needed/necessary on him liek it is some other mids It was one of the core first item people were going with tf as of pre 4.10 in some of his more fragile matchups. Usually it either lich start, zhonya start, deathcap start, or chalice. Chalice being nerfed makes it a lot harder to play him in some of the burstier matchups. | ||
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canikizu
4860 Posts
On June 30 2014 10:46 arb wrote: You never needed chalice on Tf. l0l. I still never get it and do fine. It's okay but i dont think its anywhere close to needed/necessary on him liek it is some other mids I was oldschool TF and thought TF was fine too, until I try ogn chalice build. Normally TF has to use almost all W on blue card in lane to sustain mana, but with chalice, he can red card+Q all days to clear the wave. He clears the wave so fast that it's hard for people to gank him. Moreover, the other mid is forced to stay in lane because the constant pressure, so TF has better chance to ultimate and help out other lane too. Chalice+soc boot can clear the wave pretty fast. | ||
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K3Nyy
United States1961 Posts
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miicah
Australia2470 Posts
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
On June 30 2014 11:04 canikizu wrote: I was oldschool TF and thought TF was fine too, until I try ogn chalice build. Normally TF has to use almost all W on blue card in lane to sustain mana, but with chalice, he can red card+Q all days to clear the wave. He clears the wave so fast that it's hard for people to gank him. Moreover, the other mid is forced to stay in lane because the constant pressure, so TF has better chance to ultimate and help out other lane too. Chalice+soc boot can clear the wave pretty fast. I tried it and didnt mind it but i didnt think it was good enough to change from the old build. I can see its merit tho. | ||
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
chalice came out and wasn't very commonly built at high level because "you don't need chalice just L2manage mana" a year later everyone realizes that literally spamming every ability on CD is far stronger than never casting anything | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On June 30 2014 12:13 sob3k wrote: It's like all chalice/nonchalice builds..... chalice came out and wasn't very commonly built at high level because "you don't need chalice just L2manage mana" a year later everyone realizes that literally spamming every ability on CD is far stronger than never casting anything Remember when it gave 90 ap? Lol. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On June 30 2014 12:13 sob3k wrote: It's like all chalice/nonchalice builds..... chalice came out and wasn't very commonly built at high level because "you don't need chalice just L2manage mana" a year later everyone realizes that literally spamming every ability on CD is far stronger than never casting anything That has almost nothing to do with anything...People always knew Chalice was a great item for cost. The problem was it had no upgrade that was slot efficient + the old blue buff was much better, so it was kinda redundant once you got to that point. Then Athenes came out (because people were complaining about Chalice and Vlad) and was a little expensive for its stats, then Athenes got buffed and was built by everyone and everything AP, then blue got nerfed, and both got nerfed, etc. The misrepresentation of the evolution of post S2 LOL is increasingly becoming a pet peeve of mine... | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
The CDR allows you to R more often and W more often in a teamfight. This is very significant to his damage/utility. Athene's first is also decent in a bad match up where you won't get to blue card very often. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35172 Posts
I remember when it came out at 80AP and I thought it was dumb, then Riot buffed it. I couldn't believe it. | ||
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