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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On June 24 2014 00:14 Thermia wrote: Clearly you haven't been paying attention to what riot does with every single "OP" champ. just because riot does it, doesn't make it the best solution  | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
@PX nobody is refuting that a more incremental policy to balance would be good but that is just so far from reality at this point On June 24 2014 00:47 obesechicken13 wrote: Every champ in general. I think so many champs have been nerfed that the old champions that used to be weak are now strong. Ziggs in a nutshell, like yea he got buffs but both were to minion damage and one even got reverted, and then his AA passive got nerfed on top of that, all the top assassins getting hit at once was a far bigger buff to Ziggs than his actual buffs. | ||
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
On June 24 2014 01:03 Nos- wrote: if enemy heros can grab the lantern I would expect some next level safeguard lantern insec kicks but that would be cool right? | ||
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On June 24 2014 00:50 Slusher wrote: I still love the idea that someone posted where anyone can grab the lantern lol. It's good counterplay and it's not like grabbing it is a good idea in all situations (as an enemy) @PX nobody is refuting that a more incremental policy to balance would be good but that is just so far from reality at this point Ziggs in a nutshell, like yea he got buffs but both were to minion damage and one even got reverted, and then his AA passive got nerfed on top of that, all the top assassins getting hit at once was a far bigger buff to Ziggs than his actual buffs. its not reality no, but that doesn't mean people should be calling for more of the same. people should be asking for the solution not a bandaid. | ||
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Navi
5286 Posts
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On June 24 2014 01:50 Navi wrote: Any brazilian tl leaguers out there? I think it'd be cool to win a game on every continent and im in brasil for another week or so :-D mordekaiser es only champion en brasil hue hue hue hue hue hue hue hue hue hue | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On June 24 2014 00:50 Slusher wrote: I still love the idea that someone posted where anyone can grab the lantern lol. It's good counterplay and it's not like grabbing it is a good idea in all situations (as an enemy) @PX nobody is refuting that a more incremental policy to balance would be good but that is just so far from reality at this point Ziggs in a nutshell, like yea he got buffs but both were to minion damage and one even got reverted, and then his AA passive got nerfed on top of that, all the top assassins getting hit at once was a far bigger buff to Ziggs than his actual buffs. Aww, thanks, glad you like my thresh lantern idea. Realistically though, they just need to make it so he gets crushed in poke wars by all the ranged supports, and crushed in all ins by the aggro melee supports. Also they really should make a judgement call about which support champions should be standard, and which should be niche. To me, at least, it seems difficult to have a well rounded support cast when champions like thresh, braum, or leona are considered standard, given that they also occupy niche. Nami is up and coming, which is probably healthier, in theory, because she is a generalist, which means other supports can fill niches for comps that need them, but having with defined drawbacks. | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
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O-ops
United States4236 Posts
He keeps soul in there right? | ||
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Bam Lee
2336 Posts
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On June 24 2014 03:00 O-ops wrote: Just make it so that when he throws out lantern his soul bonuses goes away until lantern flies back to him. He keeps soul in there right? or put some wards/have your jungler put wards in the lantern gank spots in the opposing jungle. if you still die to something you see coming, then you probably earned that death. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On June 24 2014 03:16 PrinceXizor wrote: or put some wards/have your jungler put wards in the lantern gank spots in the opposing jungle. if you still die to something you see coming, then you probably earned that death. Ya so easy.Not like thresh buys red trinket at first back with sighstone.Oh wait | ||
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On June 24 2014 03:25 Nos- wrote: don't thresh lanterns mostly facilitate lane ganks though?... They also shut down ganks that don't lock down thresh first, a champion that is actually pretty tanky with good self peel, so that is an unattractive choice. | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On June 24 2014 03:23 nafta wrote: Ya so easy.Not like thresh buys red trinket at first back with sighstone.Oh wait you can puta ward in between the towers on bot lane for either side and see all lane ganks coming, its easy to do and often times the ward isn't even seen aka when its placed right. if you are against a thresh pre-emptively guessing that ward spot then you just play out of range of that and ward the closest bush to their tower and know its not getting dewarded. and then there are the jugnle lantern spots on bot lane, where purple can wrangle a guy from across the cliff and blue can bring a guy from the tri bush area. both are easily warded as well. there is no way thresh can remove every ward without jungler scanner help, which he has to be present for. | ||
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imre
France9263 Posts
I'm just going lb zhonya void dfg raba, is there something better (graal start ?) | ||
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