EPT[Patch 4.10] Nidalee/Skarner Rework General Discussion - P…
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MattBarry
United States4006 Posts
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22030 Posts
On June 22 2014 04:06 MattBarry wrote: What's the consensus on new Nidalee built bruiser? I hope they don't nerf her cause I'm having so much fun playing it I believe AP is still the go to build? Or did that change? | ||
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MattBarry
United States4006 Posts
On June 22 2014 04:09 Gorsameth wrote: I believe AP is still the go to build? Or did that change? They nerfed it so hard I haven't even tried it. I'm just wondering if they made bruiser nid so strong that we can expect a nerf, cause it feels really strong. | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On June 22 2014 04:06 MattBarry wrote: What's the consensus on new Nidalee built bruiser? I hope they don't nerf her cause I'm having so much fun playing it Probably gonna get nerfed.Is pretty much permabanned in my games. | ||
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Frolossus
United States4779 Posts
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On June 22 2014 05:15 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: i feel like they removed the total gayness of spears but compensated by buffing her into ridiculous overpoweredness Seems like they are falling in the trap they have fallen into with every transforming champion with 2 sets of skills, you can't make the skills all as good as a regular champion's spells. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
I'm a bit saddened because I kinda liked the gameplay of champs like her and Kennen, playing top and relying on constant harass and autos because they'd lose a straight-up trade, and walking a fine line between aggression and overcomitting/pushing the wave too hard. On the other hand I didn't play Nidalee apart from a few games to try my hand at it (toplane obv.) so it's not like I've got my say in these things. | ||
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
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Volband
Hungary6034 Posts
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On June 22 2014 05:52 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: Is anyone else getting these 2-3 second "microlag" moments where your ping doesn't change, you can still talk on VOIP and internet works, but your champ just stands still watching everything happen around him and can't move/do anything? yeah past three or four games its happened to me. but i've also been victim of more serious spikes so i just assumed they were related. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
^ that may be why I've frozen in place 4 times in 2 games as Vi. I've noticed that in my last games too, assumed it was a bit of lag but since it's the same thing (happened in lane, wondered why I didn't auto the minions I wanted to last hit) maybe that's actually microlag happening from the server. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On June 22 2014 05:55 Alaric wrote: That's the main reason Leona crushes Sona, more so than Sona's squishiness, I'd say: your ult is up something like 40s before hers, so it doesn't matter, reach 6 without falling behind, use your ult to force hers, don't sweat it if you don't get a kill and save your summoners if you can, then kill her (or her AD) when it's back up. ^ that may be why I've frozen in place 4 times in 2 games as Vi. I've noticed that in my last games too, assumed it was a bit of lag but since it's the same thing (happened in lane, wondered why I didn't auto the minions I wanted to last hit) maybe that's actually microlag happening from the server. I disagree. This is definitely not the reason. The problem with Sona vs Leona is that as Sona you have to play like a chicken pre6. If you try to Q harass Leona will E you and you will get out traded really hard. It's very different from Sona vs Morg/Blitz/Thresh where you can hide behind your own minions and Q. | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On June 22 2014 05:52 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: Is anyone else getting these 2-3 second "microlag" moments where your ping doesn't change, you can still talk on VOIP and internet works, but your champ just stands still watching everything happen around him and can't move/do anything? Do you have movement prediction or w/e it is called enabled?That causes similar shit. Leona doesn't really beat squishy supports that hard.The hard part of leona lanes is you have to play really aggro to win and most supports don't have good escapes for when the enemy jungler comes. | ||
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canikizu
4860 Posts
Anybody has vods? | ||
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On June 22 2014 05:54 PrinceXizor wrote: yeah past three or four games its happened to me. but i've also been victim of more serious spikes so i just assumed they were related. i disagree. even when you give them 6 spells like they have on elise and nidalee, for the most part in actual gameplay you dont make use of 6 spells in a fluid combo like a normal damage dealer does, and later in the game you certainly dont use all 6. as long as the 6 spells represent different play styles and different scaling then its ok for them to be just as good as normal spells, the increased choices makes up for the lack of a proper ultimate. having 6 spells to hit doesnt mean you deal 50% more damage as someone with 4, in the current game most carries have a spell with a 2-3 second CD, meaning they are casting 5 times in the time nidalee might cast 6, if nidalees skills are all bad then shes hitting maybe once more, for less overall damage and with a harder to manage playstyle. | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
unfortunately ultimates on so many champs these days aren't significantly more powerful than a regular spell. and in the case of a bunch of new champs only amplify a regular spell so sacrificing that t gain 3 more spells is a significant advantage if they all deal damage or provided even more utility than a single spell would. | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
On June 22 2014 05:52 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: Is anyone else getting these 2-3 second "microlag" moments where your ping doesn't change, you can still talk on VOIP and internet works, but your champ just stands still watching everything happen around him and can't move/do anything? yep ive been getting them. must be riot servers? | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On June 22 2014 06:14 travis wrote: yep ive been getting them. must be riot servers? I've been getting that probably for the last month. Makes ranked hard, but luckily everyone I play is bad huehue | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
You have to play chicken all lane long because you let Leona reach level 2 (maybe even 3) while still in shape to just jump on you whenever she feels like it, if she's down to half HP when it happens and your powerchord is up she's the one who's gonna have second thoughts. | ||
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