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Alright, we're going to call it a day with all the Thorin drama, guys. I figured if it was about SI, onGamers, TSM, etc, it had some relevance to League but somehow you guys managed to devolve the discussion into an issue about race of all things.

Enough is enough. Let's move along now.

-NeoIllusions
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
June 13 2014 06:22 GMT
#1941
If you jungle without smite expect to get outsmited a lot.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 13 2014 06:31 GMT
#1942
On June 13 2014 15:22 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
If you jungle without smite expect to get outsmited a lot.

Is that an xpecial quote?
liftlift > tsm
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-13 08:14:43
June 13 2014 06:38 GMT
#1943
On June 13 2014 15:19 GolemMadness wrote:
Jungling without smite sounds like about as much fun as jungling Shen. Also, it's only 200 seconds if you TP to a tower, which doesn't really make sense for ganks.

Yeah, might have to do it on a champ that already has a wall jump so you don't need flash as much or do it with chogath/nunu.

TP to a tower is fine if homeguard gets you there in time imo.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
June 13 2014 07:25 GMT
#1944
I've been doing some tp/smite jungles, most of my success is on yi orferal flare junglers in general.
A neat unorthodox trick is start machete and only 1 pot, do 1 buff and a small camp, go back to base, buy razor and tp to the tower closer to your second buff. I'm still not decided how good that is, it's better to start red if you're doing this cause enemies rarely try to counterjungle your blue buff after their first one. Also it's one of those things that you do if you have your mind set on farming pve for the next minutes (usually till level 6),
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
June 13 2014 07:30 GMT
#1945
On June 13 2014 16:25 SagaZ wrote:
I've been doing some tp/smite jungles, most of my success is on yi orferal flare junglers in general.
A neat unorthodox trick is start machete and only 1 pot, do 1 buff and a small camp, go back to base, buy razor and tp to the tower closer to your second buff. I'm still not decided how good that is, it's better to start red if you're doing this cause enemies rarely try to counterjungle your blue buff after their first one. Also it's one of those things that you do if you have your mind set on farming pve for the next minutes (usually till level 6),


Yi can clear all 5 camps (all but Wight) with 2 pots. I don't think it's any faster doing this.
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OhTwoMise
Profile Joined September 2012
United States164 Posts
June 13 2014 07:32 GMT
#1946
On June 13 2014 03:03 Slayer91 wrote:
Losing because of lack of wards is most likely a perception issue. First you have the fact that if you had snowballed a lead thanks to good play you wouldn't need wards, and secondly you probably lost because of lack of awareness and bad positioning more than lack of wards. Most of the time people just walk places they shouldn't be and the answer is to not take stupid risks and not ward every inch of the map.

i mean i often buy way too little wards because i rarely see the need for them, other players buy tons of wards but you can just as easily achieve the same effect by pinging people back when they walk stupid areas and just ward key locations.


I don't think I agree with this. You certainly can take a minimalistic approach to warding and find a lot of success with it, but buying more wards turns a lot of "stupid risks" into advantageous plays. I'd also contend that it's much easier to close out a snowballed lead with a lot of vision unless you're not planning on doing anything but 5-manning towers for the next several minutes.

I used to play a pretty low-ward style of support (pre-S4). At some point I switched to massing wards and noticed a pretty substantial difference in the way games played out. It was pretty rare that I got caught even before mass wards, but the number of picks on my allies diminished greatly. We also started getting a lot more uncontested towers, jungle picks, buff steals, etc, etc. You don't need a ton of wards defensively, but they open up a lot of opportunities offensively, and as a bonus give you a lot more margin for error defensively.

Having said that, a lot of people will buy a stack of wards and place a lot of them redundantly so they don't really gain much more than buying one would have given them.
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
June 13 2014 07:36 GMT
#1947
On June 13 2014 16:30 Inflicted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2014 16:25 SagaZ wrote:
I've been doing some tp/smite jungles, most of my success is on yi orferal flare junglers in general.
A neat unorthodox trick is start machete and only 1 pot, do 1 buff and a small camp, go back to base, buy razor and tp to the tower closer to your second buff. I'm still not decided how good that is, it's better to start red if you're doing this cause enemies rarely try to counterjungle your blue buff after their first one. Also it's one of those things that you do if you have your mind set on farming pve for the next minutes (usually till level 6),


Yi can clear all 5 camps (all but Wight) with 2 pots. I don't think it's any faster doing this.

Sure, but you can do it on others than yi.
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
June 13 2014 08:00 GMT
#1948
On June 13 2014 16:36 SagaZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2014 16:30 Inflicted wrote:
On June 13 2014 16:25 SagaZ wrote:
I've been doing some tp/smite jungles, most of my success is on yi orferal flare junglers in general.
A neat unorthodox trick is start machete and only 1 pot, do 1 buff and a small camp, go back to base, buy razor and tp to the tower closer to your second buff. I'm still not decided how good that is, it's better to start red if you're doing this cause enemies rarely try to counterjungle your blue buff after their first one. Also it's one of those things that you do if you have your mind set on farming pve for the next minutes (usually till level 6),


Yi can clear all 5 camps (all but Wight) with 2 pots. I don't think it's any faster doing this.

Sure, but you can do it on others than yi.


I don't think I've ever seen another jungler take TP.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-13 08:02:19
June 13 2014 08:00 GMT
#1949
Rammus, Malphite, Hecarim I've seen do it. Rammus had a short stint where it was popular after homeguard came out.

On June 13 2014 12:26 Amarok wrote:
I love Kobe, but his play by play would be just wild "OHHHHHHHH"s over and over.

OH!
OOOH!
OOOOOH!
WOMBO COMBOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Works fine.
DoA and Phreak for references everywhere though. I mean, the CS guy's fine (I still don't remember his name), it's just DoA's a level above in that department, and Phreak wouldn't facepalm as much as Monte.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29904 Posts
June 13 2014 08:01 GMT
#1950
Well would be cool to get all these crazy Korean casters from SC:BW into LoL, imaging what would happen. I would listen to it all day all night long.
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-13 08:08:03
June 13 2014 08:06 GMT
#1951
On June 13 2014 15:19 GolemMadness wrote:
Jungling without smite sounds like about as much fun as jungling Shen. Also, it's only 200 seconds if you TP to a tower, which doesn't really make sense for ganks.

Shen jungle wrecks Jungle Rengar

He's just taken a lot of nerfs.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
June 13 2014 08:08 GMT
#1952
OH GOD, MUS WATCH

http://dd.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/280vhb/samsung_galaxy_vs_najin_exhibition_match_on_new/
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29904 Posts
June 13 2014 08:11 GMT
#1953
On June 13 2014 17:08 justiceknight wrote:
OH GOD, MUS WATCH

http://dd.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/280vhb/samsung_galaxy_vs_najin_exhibition_match_on_new/

NEW SUMMONERS RIFT, OH BOI, AWESOME, GOTTA WATCH.

Submitted 4 hours ago. It means like 12:30 CET?
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-13 08:19:35
June 13 2014 08:19 GMT
#1954
On June 13 2014 17:11 739 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2014 17:08 justiceknight wrote:
OH GOD, MUS WATCH

http://dd.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/280vhb/samsung_galaxy_vs_najin_exhibition_match_on_new/

NEW SUMMONERS RIFT, OH BOI, AWESOME, GOTTA WATCH.

Submitted 4 hours ago. It means like 12:30 CET?

This is meant to be the stream link + Show Spoiler +

And it keeps saying 19:00

Assuming that's kst, then it's at noon CET
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29904 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-13 10:40:18
June 13 2014 10:14 GMT
#1955
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOvK6hD7CSg

It's starting right now !!!!

New Summoners Rift game !!!

Edit : Damn it looks beautiful to me, I was waiting for that day when Riot will improve the visual updates to SR and it happened.
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
June 13 2014 10:48 GMT
#1956
On June 13 2014 19:14 739 wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOvK6hD7CSg

It's starting right now !!!!

New Summoners Rift game !!!

Edit : Damn it looks beautiful to me, I was waiting for that day when Riot will improve the visual updates to SR and it happened.

Baron looks to have a new attack. Rapid fire acids :0
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29904 Posts
June 13 2014 10:50 GMT
#1957
On June 13 2014 19:48 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2014 19:14 739 wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOvK6hD7CSg

It's starting right now !!!!

New Summoners Rift game !!!

Edit : Damn it looks beautiful to me, I was waiting for that day when Riot will improve the visual updates to SR and it happened.

Baron looks to have a new attack. Rapid fire acids :0

Yeah they said they want to improve Baron/Dragon and other big minions attack animations, because they all look the same.
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
June 13 2014 10:50 GMT
#1958
Got it paused while I watch GSL, can't wait!
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-13 10:53:47
June 13 2014 10:51 GMT
#1959
He has several. And he casts a spell once every 3 attacks, from the AMA.
Their are some things I don't like too much because of how polished they are. The sentinel, for exemple (golem replacement for blue buff) looks super clean, compared to all the weird greenish lines on the golem's "skin", I like the latter more. But since it's a beta, I guess this kind of stuff can be addressed later.
The Wight (toad) attacks with its tongue but since it's ranged it passes through melee champs, looks weird.
The tower shots are unimpressive and not that visible too, I hope they make them "bigger" since the visual cue is important.

Not a fan of too bright colors too, for example the towers, nexus and "epic" monsters health bars are huge and take up a lot of space.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
June 13 2014 10:54 GMT
#1960
If league looks anything like that I will stop playing altogether lol
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
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