EPT[Patch 4.9] RIP Kha'Zix General Discussion - Page 88
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Alright, we're going to call it a day with all the Thorin drama, guys. I figured if it was about SI, onGamers, TSM, etc, it had some relevance to League but somehow you guys managed to devolve the discussion into an issue about race of all things. Enough is enough. Let's move along now. -NeoIllusions | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On June 12 2014 06:46 wei2coolman wrote: damn the callouts are real. technically braum doesn't work in this meta, because he's banned all the fucking time. braum fits perfectly in the meta because in NA lcs you lane against no one for 10 minutes and then make a big play down mid lane and get 3 towers and the inhib and then cruise to victory, | ||
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Shelke14
Canada6655 Posts
On June 12 2014 06:48 GolemMadness wrote: I could see Zhonya's being a situational item on ADC's, like if you're someone like Ezreal and your GA's been popped and the active would be more useful than banshee's. It's definitely not something that you just get every game as your fourth item, though. But you aren't even an ADC if you have a GA plus Zhonya's though. Along with boots you only have three offensive items now. | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
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Nemireck
Canada1875 Posts
On June 12 2014 08:23 Shelke14 wrote: But you aren't even an ADC if you have a GA plus Zhonya's though. Along with boots you only have three offensive items now. Pretty sure he's talking about swapping out GA after it pops. Tends to be really late game obviously. | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On June 12 2014 08:26 VayneAuthority wrote: yea the braum nerf was really only a nerf to solo q, made his laning very manageable. hes still a monster in teamfights though -20dmg on q makes his laning manageable what?He is pretty similar to morgana.Smashes all-in supports and loses to poke. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On June 12 2014 05:59 GrandInquisitor wrote: "No way Braum will work in the current meta." Guess even making it to the exalted Platinum V 0 LP doesn't prevent you from having stupid opinions either. Plat 5 here. Can confirm. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19573 Posts
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clickrush
Switzerland3257 Posts
On June 12 2014 08:23 Shelke14 wrote: But you aren't even an ADC if you have a GA plus Zhonya's though. Along with boots you only have three offensive items now. being a carry is only indirectly influenced by your build. its entirely possible to carry with 2 defensive items on a marksman. its happened before, especially on ez during his bluebuild prime. builds don't define your impact but support it. | ||
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Zdrastochye
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
On June 12 2014 05:59 GrandInquisitor wrote: "No way Braum will work in the current meta." Guess even making it to the exalted Platinum V 0 LP doesn't prevent you from having stupid opinions either. I see Braum as a great peeler without much damage And yet he has great damage, so like Leona except more improved. Very hard to say before seeing him be played. I mean, whatever, call me out, I'm not afraid of people calling my elo (penis) small like others are, but I was more pointing out that the lower level the play, the more that "can work". Never meant it as a slight against you, I'm sure you'll join me in the fabled land of platinum where booze and hot girls follow you wherever you go. He is quite fun to play as well, only missing a hook. | ||
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Dark_Chill
Canada3353 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35118 Posts
On June 12 2014 09:47 Dark_Chill wrote: That's kind of an unfair callout on Braum. His damage is just way higher than anyone expected on Q and passive. His laning was supposed to be passive and reactionary, but Riot initially made him so strong that he started and won every fight unless there were huge misplays. His lategame is still amazing, which I think most people predicted. I think a final nerf on his passive (- 10-20 base dmg) should put him in a spot where he's not constantly banned. Not really an excuse. 1 look at his kit screamed Lee-Syndrome. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
Shits weird. But let me say, TL LoL, dont 2v1 kids in soloqueue. Just makes you look tryhard and makes the other team play better upon recognizing your tryhardedness. You also probably lack the vision to play as such without losing a shit ton of dragons, and there is no Besides, very few pure LoL players even understand how to deny in a 2v1 lane unless they also played DotA/HoN at some point. Also, Rengar is still really really strong. I'd say the playerbase could adjust to him but I dont think they are smart enough to buy them vision items. | ||
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
It doesn't happen, but it should. | ||
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arb
Noobville17920 Posts
On June 11 2014 23:00 Fildun wrote: Also with Banshees? Ya, just hide in a bush and drop e then ult and he would die. banshees wont even come into effect On June 12 2014 09:32 clickrush wrote: being a carry is only indirectly influenced by your build. its entirely possible to carry with 2 defensive items on a marksman. its happened before, especially on ez during his bluebuild prime. builds don't define your impact but support it. If there is a Zed or something and my GA is down i will buy a Zhonyas, it gives comparable armor but also nullifys his ult. Though I guess Scimitar would be just as good but still. So troll to turn golden when he ults lolol. | ||
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
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Disengaged
United States6994 Posts
On June 12 2014 09:52 iCanada wrote: My last three games in a row I've had kids in Solo-Queue try and 2v1 me top lane. Rofl. Shits weird. But let me say, TL LoL, dont 2v1 kids in soloqueue. Just makes you look tryhard and makes the other team play better upon recognizing your tryhardedness. You also probably lack the vision to play as such without losing a shit ton of dragons, and there is no Besides, very few pure LoL players even understand how to deny in a 2v1 lane unless they also played DotA/HoN at some point. Also, Rengar is still really really strong. I'd say the playerbase could adjust to him but I dont think they are smart enough to buy them vision items. I only ask to laneswap when I go against an Irelia or Jax. Works out majority of the time. Considering I'm in Silver heheeheheheehehehe | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On June 12 2014 09:52 iCanada wrote: My last three games in a row I've had kids in Solo-Queue try and 2v1 me top lane. Rofl. Shits weird. But let me say, TL LoL, dont 2v1 kids in soloqueue. Just makes you look tryhard and makes the other team play better upon recognizing your tryhardedness. You also probably lack the vision to play as such without losing a shit ton of dragons, and there is no Besides, very few pure LoL players even understand how to deny in a 2v1 lane unless they also played DotA/HoN at some point. Also, Rengar is still really really strong. I'd say the playerbase could adjust to him but I dont think they are smart enough to buy them vision items. Rengar has the Master Yi problem. Against certain comps Rengar is a god. But when you are completely melee with conditional mobility and no reset mechanics, one CC is all that is needed to kill you. The issue, of course, is to be able to reliably land a CC before he kills someone important. | ||
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ghrur
United States3786 Posts
On June 12 2014 09:52 iCanada wrote: My last three games in a row I've had kids in Solo-Queue try and 2v1 me top lane. Rofl. Shits weird. But let me say, TL LoL, dont 2v1 kids in soloqueue. Just makes you look tryhard and makes the other team play better upon recognizing your tryhardedness. You also probably lack the vision to play as such without losing a shit ton of dragons, and there is no Besides, very few pure LoL players even understand how to deny in a 2v1 lane unless they also played DotA/HoN at some point. Also, Rengar is still really really strong. I'd say the playerbase could adjust to him but I dont think they are smart enough to buy them vision items. Why is trying hard in soloqueue a bad thing? I thought that was the point? Also, people want to win in soloqueue, and if 2v1s help them win, then they should do it. I'm actually quite sad Soloqueue doesn't have more 2v1s because the LCS meta includes that a lot. Without practice in soloqueue, it might get quite hard to get used to it for LCS, and if people practiced it more in LCS, teams might play better when it happens or find ways to counter it. I think the huge gap between NA LCS meta and NA soloqueue meta is a huge detriment that we should try and bridge, not something we should make fun of people for when they copy LCS meta. | ||
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Kinie
United States3106 Posts
Like I just got done with a really frustrating game and the main reason we lost was due to lack of vision, even though I was doing all I could to ward and sweep. The team itself was ok, but only me and the ADC were warding. And even after I called the support out on no sightstone he continued to not get it (or even use his trinket ward) and we just slowly lost vision, then control of dragon/baron, then the game due to them being like 8k gold ahead of us at 30 minute mark. I try to be logical about it to them (vision wins games, objectives > kills, picks lead to objectives, etc.), and even ask them to throw it down somewhere even if it isn't in an ideal location. But no one else listened. | ||
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