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Alright, we're going to call it a day with all the Thorin drama, guys. I figured if it was about SI, onGamers, TSM, etc, it had some relevance to League but somehow you guys managed to devolve the discussion into an issue about race of all things.

Enough is enough. Let's move along now.

-NeoIllusions
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
June 10 2014 02:00 GMT
#1301
On June 10 2014 10:58 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2014 10:56 Slusher wrote:
it's really hard to say this season, the games where Snoopeh has looked bad it's been just as much InnoX's fault


the only reason it isnt as noticable is because of riot's idiotic jungle at the moment. clearing any golem or red buff instantly brings you back into the game regardless of behind you were due to the catch up experience. Snoopeh is always massively behind in items


that has nothing to do with my comment
Carrilord has arrived.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
June 10 2014 02:07 GMT
#1302
On June 10 2014 10:59 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2014 09:08 GolemMadness wrote:
On June 10 2014 08:59 VayneAuthority wrote:
On June 10 2014 08:57 GolemMadness wrote:
I find it incredibly bizarre that typing properly could possibly actually annoy someone.


I don't think it has anything to do with that, its usually a combination of the personality that comes with those people.

Lol, you type like an idiot you insufferable buffoon. Pip Pip Cheerio.


Never seen this happen before. Maybe I'll try typing properly in games for a while to see what happens.

Do turrets do any extra damage to melee or caster minions? Caster minions start off with 290 health and outer turrets do 164 damage at 2:15, but one shot will take it low enough for you to kill it in one hit. I can't find anything about melee or caster minions taking extra damage from turrets, so what's going on?

No extra damage afaik but Siege minions take reduced damage. They used to take less damage from towers but Riot decided Ziggs was having too hard of a time stalling games to 90 minutes.


That doesn't make sense then. Towers are just doing like an extra 60 damage.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
June 10 2014 02:19 GMT
#1303
On June 10 2014 11:07 GolemMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2014 10:59 obesechicken13 wrote:
On June 10 2014 09:08 GolemMadness wrote:
On June 10 2014 08:59 VayneAuthority wrote:
On June 10 2014 08:57 GolemMadness wrote:
I find it incredibly bizarre that typing properly could possibly actually annoy someone.


I don't think it has anything to do with that, its usually a combination of the personality that comes with those people.

Lol, you type like an idiot you insufferable buffoon. Pip Pip Cheerio.


Never seen this happen before. Maybe I'll try typing properly in games for a while to see what happens.

Do turrets do any extra damage to melee or caster minions? Caster minions start off with 290 health and outer turrets do 164 damage at 2:15, but one shot will take it low enough for you to kill it in one hit. I can't find anything about melee or caster minions taking extra damage from turrets, so what's going on?

No extra damage afaik but Siege minions take reduced damage. They used to take less damage from towers but Riot decided Ziggs was having too hard of a time stalling games to 90 minutes.


That doesn't make sense then. Towers are just doing like an extra 60 damage.

Are you sure this is for the outer turrets? Inner and outer turrets have different damages.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
June 10 2014 02:24 GMT
#1304
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Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
June 10 2014 02:25 GMT
#1305
On June 10 2014 11:07 GolemMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2014 10:59 obesechicken13 wrote:
On June 10 2014 09:08 GolemMadness wrote:
On June 10 2014 08:59 VayneAuthority wrote:
On June 10 2014 08:57 GolemMadness wrote:
I find it incredibly bizarre that typing properly could possibly actually annoy someone.


I don't think it has anything to do with that, its usually a combination of the personality that comes with those people.

Lol, you type like an idiot you insufferable buffoon. Pip Pip Cheerio.


Never seen this happen before. Maybe I'll try typing properly in games for a while to see what happens.

Do turrets do any extra damage to melee or caster minions? Caster minions start off with 290 health and outer turrets do 164 damage at 2:15, but one shot will take it low enough for you to kill it in one hit. I can't find anything about melee or caster minions taking extra damage from turrets, so what's going on?

No extra damage afaik but Siege minions take reduced damage. They used to take less damage from towers but Riot decided Ziggs was having too hard of a time stalling games to 90 minutes.


That doesn't make sense then. Towers are just doing like an extra 60 damage.

Who are you playing that can CS caster minions at 2:15 with only 1 tower shot?

For all normal AD ranges it's usually 2AAs + 1 Tower to CS casters, and 2 Tower + 1AA to CS melee
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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-10 02:34:43
June 10 2014 02:29 GMT
#1306
On June 10 2014 11:24 krndandaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2014 10:32 Sufficiency wrote:
On June 10 2014 10:21 krndandaman wrote:
I type 150 WPM with proper punctuation and grammar according to speedracer.com, wonder how it would be without any punctuation and grammar then.


---

so apparently helios in NA is pretty much confirmed? helios actually replacing snoopeh?
with that change EG might be shaking up the rankings soon. I don't think a single player would make them top dogs, but definitely out of the bottom 2 imo.


It's gonna be like Seraph, except probably a bit better in mechanics.

But the level of communication is going to be worse.


helios was actually a starter on pro teams though. so he has experience.
also the difference (on paper) between snoopeh and helios is much larger than nien and seraph.

not to mention we alraedy got 2 korean boys on EG so it might be easier to adjust.


Yeah but I think as jungler your communication is important. I am sure Helio is great at English, but probably not to that point.

It's a bit different from the top lane.

I do think this is a great pick up for EG though.... considering how bad Snoopeh is.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6215 Posts
June 10 2014 02:43 GMT
#1307
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/features/dev-blog-srs-gameplay-updates

Notably the camera changes which were such a huge focus of discussion in the last week or so.

Interesting stuff.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 10 2014 02:54 GMT
#1308
On June 10 2014 11:43 Lmui wrote:
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/features/dev-blog-srs-gameplay-updates

Notably the camera changes which were such a huge focus of discussion in the last week or so.

Interesting stuff.

camera angle is a really nice update. I still think the best thing about VU for SR is the minions, they look so fucking awesome right now.
liftlift > tsm
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
June 10 2014 03:01 GMT
#1309
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GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
June 10 2014 03:01 GMT
#1310
Just tried it out in a custom game, and a tower was doing 207 damage to minions when it had 164 AD. Where does the extra 43 damage come from? From what I can see, towers only do extra damage from multiple hits on champions, and otherwise the only thing they have is 30% armour piercing.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
June 10 2014 04:07 GMT
#1311
How much armor did the minions have? Perhaps the armor is low enough that they're bypassing their resists and doing more than true damage.
Hey! How you doin'?
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-10 04:12:46
June 10 2014 04:12 GMT
#1312
On June 10 2014 12:01 krndandaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2014 11:29 Sufficiency wrote:
On June 10 2014 11:24 krndandaman wrote:
On June 10 2014 10:32 Sufficiency wrote:
On June 10 2014 10:21 krndandaman wrote:
I type 150 WPM with proper punctuation and grammar according to speedracer.com, wonder how it would be without any punctuation and grammar then.


---

so apparently helios in NA is pretty much confirmed? helios actually replacing snoopeh?
with that change EG might be shaking up the rankings soon. I don't think a single player would make them top dogs, but definitely out of the bottom 2 imo.


It's gonna be like Seraph, except probably a bit better in mechanics.

But the level of communication is going to be worse.


helios was actually a starter on pro teams though. so he has experience.
also the difference (on paper) between snoopeh and helios is much larger than nien and seraph.

not to mention we alraedy got 2 korean boys on EG so it might be easier to adjust.


Yeah but I think as jungler your communication is important. I am sure Helio is great at English, but probably not to that point.

It's a bit different from the top lane.

I do think this is a great pick up for EG though.... considering how bad Snoopeh is.


yeah and knowing the NA jungler pool.. lol



Hmmm.... I don’t know.

I think NA has tons of talents. But you can't just take some good challenger plaer and make him a pro. It took time to build 'faker'.

To see this, see C9. Sneaky in particular.

But, since NA region is so ludicrous and there is so much money in it, it is easy to just grab pros from other regions than to develop NA's own. But by doing so it also hurts NA's challenger scene greatly.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-10 04:15:18
June 10 2014 04:12 GMT
#1313
There was a patch that made Turret deals extra damage to minions so that champions have easier time to last hit under the turrets, did that one ever come through?

Edit: found it patch 3.14
Damage
Base damage adjusted to match minion health growth.
Base damage against minions increased to make last-hitting under turrets consistent.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-10 04:17:15
June 10 2014 04:14 GMT
#1314
Is it bad League of Legends made me use "real" in my daily sentences?
like if something goes wrong i just say "real?" and no one thinks anything different about it :x

On June 10 2014 12:01 GolemMadness wrote:
Just tried it out in a custom game, and a tower was doing 207 damage to minions when it had 164 AD. Where does the extra 43 damage come from? From what I can see, towers only do extra damage from multiple hits on champions, and otherwise the only thing they have is 30% armour piercing.

they get an extra 50% damage for being "fired up" i believe. and then an extra up to 75% for hitting the same target iirc.
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35162 Posts
June 10 2014 04:32 GMT
#1315
On June 10 2014 13:14 arb wrote:
Is it bad League of Legends made me use "real" in my daily sentences?
like if something goes wrong i just say "real?" and no one thinks anything different about it :x

I only use it around friends that I play league with. Even then, 90% of it is because of a League based discussion.

That or shitty drivers. Driving is like the soloq of life.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 10 2014 04:36 GMT
#1316
Man this TSM ongamers drama is too real.
liftlift > tsm
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
June 10 2014 04:41 GMT
#1317
On June 10 2014 13:14 arb wrote:
Is it bad League of Legends made me use "real" in my daily sentences?
like if something goes wrong i just say "real?" and no one thinks anything different about it :x

Show nested quote +
On June 10 2014 12:01 GolemMadness wrote:
Just tried it out in a custom game, and a tower was doing 207 damage to minions when it had 164 AD. Where does the extra 43 damage come from? From what I can see, towers only do extra damage from multiple hits on champions, and otherwise the only thing they have is 30% armour piercing.

they get an extra 50% damage for being "fired up" i believe. and then an extra up to 75% for hitting the same target iirc.


That's only applicable for hitting champions.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
June 10 2014 04:42 GMT
#1318
On June 10 2014 13:12 canikizu wrote:
There was a patch that made Turret deals extra damage to minions so that champions have easier time to last hit under the turrets, did that one ever come through?

Edit: found it patch 3.14
Damage
Base damage adjusted to match minion health growth.
Base damage against minions increased to make last-hitting under turrets consistent.


That would explain it. I guess just nobody ever updated the tower or minion pages.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
June 10 2014 05:03 GMT
#1319
On June 10 2014 13:32 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2014 13:14 arb wrote:
Is it bad League of Legends made me use "real" in my daily sentences?
like if something goes wrong i just say "real?" and no one thinks anything different about it :x

I only use it around friends that I play league with. Even then, 90% of it is because of a League based discussion.

That or shitty drivers. Driving is like the soloq of life.

I just find myself saying real to everyone, even people that dont play league.
shits so bad lolol.
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
June 10 2014 05:17 GMT
#1320
On June 10 2014 13:36 wei2coolman wrote:
Man this TSM ongamers drama is too real.

not to surprised tbh. Thorin doesn't have a filter or know where the line is. Can't really expect TSM to want to work with ongamers when one of their biggest shows keeps attacking TSM, oftentimes unfairly.

It's one thing to criticize TSM's play. It's another to mindlessly bash.
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