EPTI wonder if this will start the practice of splitting the profits from interview videos with the interviewed party.
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Alright, we're going to call it a day with all the Thorin drama, guys. I figured if it was about SI, onGamers, TSM, etc, it had some relevance to League but somehow you guys managed to devolve the discussion into an issue about race of all things. Enough is enough. Let's move along now. -NeoIllusions | ||
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Sermokala
United States14047 Posts
I wonder if this will start the practice of splitting the profits from interview videos with the interviewed party. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
In any case I'd trade Travis interviews for SI if it was a once a month show, let alone weekly. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On June 10 2014 14:36 Sermokala wrote: He has some really good points though. Mostly that its really hard for them to justify giveing interviews and helping them make money when they constantly bash them like they do. This isn't mainstream sports where interviews are the only way for them to get their face out there. I wonder if this will start the practice of splitting the profits from interview videos with the interviewed party. I like to think of this in terms of game theory. Regi's way is a lose lose situation, as opposed to win win for both parties. Regi is so salty about Thorin he's willing to take a hit to spite Thorin and Monte. Had Regi continued his relationship with Travis, his players get free publicity, and his sponsors get publicity (this is a huge one imo, sponsors will not like the fact that Regi is giving LESS media time to sponsors). Travis is non-controversial, he gives out softball questions to all the players, both party benefits. SI continues doing it's show, no more Loco, as Regi does not want TSM on Thorin's show, fair enough. Regi's current route. Makes him into a more controversial icon, more focus on him than on his actual brand. Brand no longer gets free publicity with the ez interviews from Travis. Less coverage of his players, less sponsor exposure. Travis has less of a pool of players to talk to (though, I'm sure he'll make do). Thorin becomes an even more controversial figure (this is actually probably benefit to him). Regi could have just as easily cut off Thorin without cutting off Travis, and it would have been a win win for everyone. Instead he went for the lose:lose, hoping that Thorin gets cutoff off ongamers, which is just pure salt imo. Also, especially getting 2 fucking new guy into roster, and less media coverage to discover personality??? especially bad time to do it for Regi | ||
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docvoc
United States5491 Posts
On June 10 2014 14:48 wei2coolman wrote: I like to think of this in terms of game theory. Regi's way is a lose lose situation, as opposed to win win for both parties. Regi is so salty about Thorin he's willing to take a hit to spite Thorin and Monte. Had Regi continued his relationship with Travis, his players get free publicity, and his sponsors get publicity (this is a huge one imo, sponsors will not like the fact that Regi is giving LESS media time to sponsors). Travis is non-controversial, he gives out softball questions to all the players, both party benefits. SI continues doing it's show, no more Loco, as Regi does not want TSM on Thorin's show, fair enough. Regi's current route. Makes him into a more controversial icon, more focus on him than on his actual brand. Brand no longer gets free publicity with the ez interviews from Travis. Less coverage of his players, less sponsor exposure. Travis has less of a pool of players to talk to (though, I'm sure he'll make do). Thorin becomes an even more controversial figure (this is actually probably benefit to him). Regi could have just as easily cut off Thorin without cutting off Travis, and it would have been a win win for everyone. Instead he went for the lose:lose, hoping that Thorin gets cutoff off ongamers, which is just pure salt imo. Also, especially getting 2 fucking new guy into roster, and less media coverage to discover personality??? especially bad time to do it for Regi I honestly think Regi being controversial isn't a lose-lose here because the game isn't so simple as cutting one person off being a cultivation of one as opposed to the entire brand he represents. This is TSM getting primetime spotlights on them for things off the rift. This is what sponsors might actually want more than just interviews, because no one remembers interviews no matter how funny, they remember the tidbits of drama and the tensions in a storyline. This is TSM making a story and its exactly what a sponsor would want IMO. | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
I diont actually care about tsm not working with ongamers anymore because everyone on that team is a shitty i nterviewee anyway except for maybe bjergsen but nore more lord loco on SI makes me sad. User was warned for this post | ||
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Kinie
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LB, Kayle, Kass (if I'm on purple side), Braum, Jax, Evelynn, Lucian, Thresh, Leona, Morgana | ||
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On June 10 2014 14:39 Slusher wrote: TSM doesn't need the media you guys are right the fact that nobody who isn't high elo knows who the fuck Gleeb is and all of their fans still have sweet memories of Turtle and Xpecial dominating every non APrhrolift lane isn't a big deal at all. In any case I'd trade Travis interviews for SI if it was a once a month show, let alone weekly. from my PoV i actually dont like ongamers in the slighest, so i dont care if teams refuse to work with them. they come across as so..... self important. any quality content they have put out was already being made by the person before joining ongamers, the only thing the ongamers brand actually brought to the table was copypasting press releasing and calling it a news story, zero insight or comment. ongamers is the worst possible way for esports journalism to go down so the more successful they are, the worse things are for the scene. | ||
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GolemMadness
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On June 10 2014 14:36 Sermokala wrote: He has some really good points though. Mostly that its really hard for them to justify giveing interviews and helping them make money when they constantly bash them like they do. This isn't mainstream sports where interviews are the only way for them to get their face out there. I wonder if this will start the practice of splitting the profits from interview videos with the interviewed party. pretty sure organizations in mainstream sports blacklist companies. i don't think it's so much that Monte and Thorin think TSM sucks, more the fact that Thorin repeatedly bashes Regi, TSM, and the players. I mean ffs, Thorin went on SI tonight and called Regi an ape. That's pretty unprofessional. If a company is repeatedly attacking your company's image, won't you sever all ties with said company? On top of that, according to Regi's response, the drama started with Locodoco telling the TSM players they should stay away from social media (pretty smart imo) and just not do interviews for the time being. Imo, this makes plenty of sense considering that the last thing TSM needs right now is the players reading all the shit on FB, Twitter, and Reddit and tilting super hard. Then shit happened behind the scenes. Regi accuses Travis of telling Thorin/Monte to bash TSM on SI, but Travis says he did no such thing and there was miscommunication between onGamers and Regi. Regardless, Thorin goes on SI and calls Regi an ape and well. Drama. Regi's response is more mature/professional than Odee's little Twitch chat rant anyways. Plus, it's not like Regi's move is without precedent. C9 blacklisted Thorin a while back iirc. | ||
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canikizu
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On June 10 2014 15:44 ProV1 wrote: TSM is going downhill. Wonder how Regi plans to bounce back. The new roster changes combined with consecutive losses is really not helping them. Plus, they get into this kind of controversy. Wasn't TSM also doing horribly the last spring split in S3? They were like middle of the pack, losing to Curse, Dig, CLG until they got WildTurtle in week 4 or something? | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On June 10 2014 16:08 canikizu wrote: Wasn't TSM also doing horribly the last spring split in S3? They were like middle of the pack, losing to Curse, Dig, CLG until they got WildTurtle in week 4 or something? TSM historically sucks early on since they're slow adapters. They're kinda like Fnatic in that they take a while to adapt, but do very well once they do. Plus they changed almost half their roster. Can't really be surprised they're not doing well. | ||
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