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Alright, we're going to call it a day with all the Thorin drama, guys. I figured if it was about SI, onGamers, TSM, etc, it had some relevance to League but somehow you guys managed to devolve the discussion into an issue about race of all things.

Enough is enough. Let's move along now.

-NeoIllusions
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
June 09 2014 17:15 GMT
#1201
I hate the new Karthus. Like why is his crap a light green that's really hard to see versus a purple that is really freaking obvious? Oi. I thought his ult was a Soraka ult that healed you because it was green at first. Then I was like wait, that's supposed to be his ult?
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
June 09 2014 17:18 GMT
#1202
Anyone watching the Spanish SR visual update stream thingy? Spanish sounds cool. "ANIMASION DE MUERTE"
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
June 09 2014 17:26 GMT
#1203
I watched it. It looks a bit unfinished, but that's fine.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
June 09 2014 17:38 GMT
#1204
On June 10 2014 01:45 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2014 01:27 Sufficiency wrote:
Amazing is not much of an upgrade from TOO but TOO can't even play Lee.

Gleeb was basically due to regi playing his cards too strongly on Xpecial.


I think Amazing is an upgrade over TOO it's just that getting rid of Xpecial at the same time kind of killed the team. Xpecial was the only one of the team that actually made anything happen. Now without him there's no one actually doing anything. Amazing did play well in CW so he should be able to not be as bad as he is now



I am just not convinced that Amazing is better, either in champion pool or in mechanics.

Mechanics I think Amazing is far derpier than TOO. Might be a little biased because I used to see TSM winning, but still.

Champion pool wise we see that Amazing can play Lee a bit. But what happens after Lee falls out of favour?
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Shiznick
Profile Joined December 2008
United States2200 Posts
June 09 2014 17:58 GMT
#1205
On June 10 2014 02:38 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2014 01:45 Numy wrote:
On June 10 2014 01:27 Sufficiency wrote:
Amazing is not much of an upgrade from TOO but TOO can't even play Lee.

Gleeb was basically due to regi playing his cards too strongly on Xpecial.


I think Amazing is an upgrade over TOO it's just that getting rid of Xpecial at the same time kind of killed the team. Xpecial was the only one of the team that actually made anything happen. Now without him there's no one actually doing anything. Amazing did play well in CW so he should be able to not be as bad as he is now



I am just not convinced that Amazing is better, either in champion pool or in mechanics.

Mechanics I think Amazing is far derpier than TOO. Might be a little biased because I used to see TSM winning, but still.

Champion pool wise we see that Amazing can play Lee a bit. But what happens after Lee falls out of favour?

imo, the champion pool only matters because TOO was incapable of playing lee at a decent enough level for na lcs. It sort of speaks that TOO was skill-capped, meaning that his stock as a jungler was sinking. Amazing, though he hasn't worked out for TSM yet, is an investment with an eye on the future.
Thermia
Profile Joined August 2010
United States866 Posts
June 09 2014 18:05 GMT
#1206
On June 10 2014 02:38 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2014 01:45 Numy wrote:
On June 10 2014 01:27 Sufficiency wrote:
Amazing is not much of an upgrade from TOO but TOO can't even play Lee.

Gleeb was basically due to regi playing his cards too strongly on Xpecial.


I think Amazing is an upgrade over TOO it's just that getting rid of Xpecial at the same time kind of killed the team. Xpecial was the only one of the team that actually made anything happen. Now without him there's no one actually doing anything. Amazing did play well in CW so he should be able to not be as bad as he is now



I am just not convinced that Amazing is better, either in champion pool or in mechanics.

Mechanics I think Amazing is far derpier than TOO. Might be a little biased because I used to see TSM winning, but still.

Champion pool wise we see that Amazing can play Lee a bit. But what happens after Lee falls out of favour?


I'm pretty sure Lee has never fallen out of favor yet. Didn't riot want to nerf him recently and the playerbase cried so much they reverted everything?
Sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from trolling. IGN: Mierin
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
June 09 2014 18:09 GMT
#1207
On June 10 2014 02:38 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2014 01:45 Numy wrote:
On June 10 2014 01:27 Sufficiency wrote:
Amazing is not much of an upgrade from TOO but TOO can't even play Lee.

Gleeb was basically due to regi playing his cards too strongly on Xpecial.


I think Amazing is an upgrade over TOO it's just that getting rid of Xpecial at the same time kind of killed the team. Xpecial was the only one of the team that actually made anything happen. Now without him there's no one actually doing anything. Amazing did play well in CW so he should be able to not be as bad as he is now



I am just not convinced that Amazing is better, either in champion pool or in mechanics.

Mechanics I think Amazing is far derpier than TOO. Might be a little biased because I used to see TSM winning, but still.

Champion pool wise we see that Amazing can play Lee a bit. But what happens after Lee falls out of favour?


I think the problem is you are comparing TOO in TSM with Xpecial vs Amazing in TSM with Gleeb. Even before they got Bjerg they had Regi AND Xpecial who would both make things happen on the map. This is the first TSM that has ever had such a passive team so it's really hard to say if Amazing isn't an upgrade or he's just in a team that is way worse. I think everything would have been alright if Bjerg didn't suddenly become incapable of making forceful plays after Gragas got nerfed or Xpecial never got replaced with Gleeb.

TOO never had a champion pool issue because he was pretty mediocre regardless of what they played and Regi/Bjerg used to draw bans. Now no one on TSM draws bans AND Amazing is clearly better on some junglers. If you think about it 90% of the junglers in LCS are never put in a position where Elise/Eve/Lee/Kha are all taken away because their other teammates draw bans.

Having said all that I do think Amazing is playing bad since he was a playmaker on CW and it's something TSM desperately need
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
June 09 2014 18:18 GMT
#1208
On June 10 2014 02:15 zer0das wrote:
I hate the new Karthus. Like why is his crap a light green that's really hard to see versus a purple that is really freaking obvious? Oi. I thought his ult was a Soraka ult that healed you because it was green at first. Then I was like wait, that's supposed to be his ult?


I don't know. Up until now they have been really smart about color choices for high contrast and visibility. But then they updated Karthus and they went with green on green and frankly I don't understand it at all.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
June 09 2014 18:37 GMT
#1209
On June 10 2014 03:05 Thermia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2014 02:38 Sufficiency wrote:
On June 10 2014 01:45 Numy wrote:
On June 10 2014 01:27 Sufficiency wrote:
Amazing is not much of an upgrade from TOO but TOO can't even play Lee.

Gleeb was basically due to regi playing his cards too strongly on Xpecial.


I think Amazing is an upgrade over TOO it's just that getting rid of Xpecial at the same time kind of killed the team. Xpecial was the only one of the team that actually made anything happen. Now without him there's no one actually doing anything. Amazing did play well in CW so he should be able to not be as bad as he is now



I am just not convinced that Amazing is better, either in champion pool or in mechanics.

Mechanics I think Amazing is far derpier than TOO. Might be a little biased because I used to see TSM winning, but still.

Champion pool wise we see that Amazing can play Lee a bit. But what happens after Lee falls out of favour?


I'm pretty sure Lee has never fallen out of favor yet. Didn't riot want to nerf him recently and the playerbase cried so much they reverted everything?


double CD on ward jumps effectively.
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
June 09 2014 18:59 GMT
#1210
EPIC GAMES : http://www.twitch.tv/mr_tolkien
The legend of Darien lives on
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
June 09 2014 19:05 GMT
#1211

Oh my
Glorious SEA doto
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
June 09 2014 19:08 GMT
#1212
--- Nuked ---
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 09 2014 19:08 GMT
#1213
On June 10 2014 04:05 Fusilero wrote:
https://twitter.com/moobeat/status/476074891985559552
Oh my

this is a nice change, it was sort of annoying how she could burst you for like 3 quarters of your health, and you couldn't respond with a trade of your own.
liftlift > tsm
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
June 09 2014 19:10 GMT
#1214
--- Nuked ---
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
June 09 2014 19:13 GMT
#1215
soraka for one
Bronze player stuck in platinum
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
June 09 2014 19:15 GMT
#1216
Cho'Gath, so forgotten.
Moderator
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 09 2014 19:15 GMT
#1217
On June 10 2014 04:10 krndandaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2014 04:08 wei2coolman wrote:
On June 10 2014 04:05 Fusilero wrote:
https://twitter.com/moobeat/status/476074891985559552
Oh my

this is a nice change, it was sort of annoying how she could burst you for like 3 quarters of your health, and you couldn't respond with a trade of your own.


if this happens theres not a lot of champs with a silence left.

who has silence still?

talon, blitz, ?? can't think of anymore but i'm sure theres more?

garen, and soraka.
liftlift > tsm
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
June 09 2014 19:17 GMT
#1218
silence confirmed anti fun toxic no counterplay mechanic
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-09 19:22:22
June 09 2014 19:19 GMT
#1219
Fiddlesticks

If they reduced the channel/ insane telegraph on Cho's spells by a bit, I think he'd be very strong.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
June 09 2014 19:20 GMT
#1220
The void was themed for silence:
Cho'Gath, Malzahar, Kassadin (oops)

Machine gods:
Blitzcrank, Viktor
Administrator@TL_Zess
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