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Cheap0
Profile Joined July 2012
United States540 Posts
June 03 2014 18:38 GMT
#1801
On June 04 2014 03:13 RagequitBM wrote:
Kinda random, but the Jinx discussion a few pages ago made me think about it.
As an ADC main I'm really happy with bottom lane champions at the moment. Lucian is kinda really good, but not so good that it makes you hate playing the lane. All the supports are fun to play against, and with. Your damage is nowhere near S2 levels, but it's still pretty good, and you're not getting 100 - 0'd by Zeds all day. I'm really enjoying myself right now.

Also been trying to pick up other roles so that I can Solo queue and not free lose everytime I'm not ADC. And I wanted to learn 2 champions for each other role. So far I'm learning:
top: Bruiser Nid
Jungle: leesin/Kayle
Mid: Orianna
Support: Gragas

Any suggestions for a second champ in each role?


I'm fine w/ the ADC meta atm even if Lucian and Caitlyn are a little too strong. I'm not all the happy with support right now though. I miss being able to play the classic supports and not get outscaled by the enemy support.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 03 2014 18:38 GMT
#1802
On June 04 2014 03:35 kongoline wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2014 03:24 wei2coolman wrote:
On June 04 2014 03:13 RagequitBM wrote:
Kinda random, but the Jinx discussion a few pages ago made me think about it.
As an ADC main I'm really happy with bottom lane champions at the moment. Lucian is kinda really good, but not so good that it makes you hate playing the lane. All the supports are fun to play against, and with. Your damage is nowhere near S2 levels, but it's still pretty good, and you're not getting 100 - 0'd by Zeds all day. I'm really enjoying myself right now.

Also been trying to pick up other roles so that I can Solo queue and not free lose everytime I'm not ADC. And I wanted to learn 2 champions for each other role. So far I'm learning:
top: Bruiser Nid
Jungle: leesin/Kayle
Mid: Orianna
Support: Gragas

Any suggestions for a second champ in each role?

top: renekton
jungle: elise
mid: kayle
support: thresh.

but renekton blows for carrying games lol

he does just fine, you almost never lose lane, and you can often snowball advantages fairly easily with TP, and his early game spike.
liftlift > tsm
asymptotech
Profile Joined May 2013
United States295 Posts
June 03 2014 18:38 GMT
#1803
On June 04 2014 00:44 obesechicken13 wrote:
Camera lock: Y/N

I notice even nightblue uses camera lock but can scroll when necessary.
I find it such an inconvenience to aim when your perspective is changing with respect to the map as well as your opponents.

I hate scrolling while chasing though and am not Korean enough yet to use SZXC to scroll yet.


I use wasd to move the camera (1-4 for basic skills, q/e for summoners, items are other surrounding keys) because...well, those would be the keys I use in almost any other game to accomplish a similar concept. =P
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
June 03 2014 18:41 GMT
#1804
On June 04 2014 03:38 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2014 03:35 kongoline wrote:
On June 04 2014 03:24 wei2coolman wrote:
On June 04 2014 03:13 RagequitBM wrote:
Kinda random, but the Jinx discussion a few pages ago made me think about it.
As an ADC main I'm really happy with bottom lane champions at the moment. Lucian is kinda really good, but not so good that it makes you hate playing the lane. All the supports are fun to play against, and with. Your damage is nowhere near S2 levels, but it's still pretty good, and you're not getting 100 - 0'd by Zeds all day. I'm really enjoying myself right now.

Also been trying to pick up other roles so that I can Solo queue and not free lose everytime I'm not ADC. And I wanted to learn 2 champions for each other role. So far I'm learning:
top: Bruiser Nid
Jungle: leesin/Kayle
Mid: Orianna
Support: Gragas

Any suggestions for a second champ in each role?

top: renekton
jungle: elise
mid: kayle
support: thresh.

but renekton blows for carrying games lol

he does just fine, you almost never lose lane, and you can often snowball advantages fairly easily with TP, and his early game spike.

laning doesnt mean shit in soloQ and tp buff made his worse not better wtf
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
June 03 2014 18:41 GMT
#1805
Top: Fiora
Jungle: Fiora
Mid: Fizz
Support: Fiddlesticks
Hey! How you doin'?
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 03 2014 18:45 GMT
#1806
On June 04 2014 03:41 kongoline wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2014 03:38 wei2coolman wrote:
On June 04 2014 03:35 kongoline wrote:
On June 04 2014 03:24 wei2coolman wrote:
On June 04 2014 03:13 RagequitBM wrote:
Kinda random, but the Jinx discussion a few pages ago made me think about it.
As an ADC main I'm really happy with bottom lane champions at the moment. Lucian is kinda really good, but not so good that it makes you hate playing the lane. All the supports are fun to play against, and with. Your damage is nowhere near S2 levels, but it's still pretty good, and you're not getting 100 - 0'd by Zeds all day. I'm really enjoying myself right now.

Also been trying to pick up other roles so that I can Solo queue and not free lose everytime I'm not ADC. And I wanted to learn 2 champions for each other role. So far I'm learning:
top: Bruiser Nid
Jungle: leesin/Kayle
Mid: Orianna
Support: Gragas

Any suggestions for a second champ in each role?

top: renekton
jungle: elise
mid: kayle
support: thresh.

but renekton blows for carrying games lol

he does just fine, you almost never lose lane, and you can often snowball advantages fairly easily with TP, and his early game spike.

laning doesnt mean shit in soloQ and tp buff made his worse not better wtf

wut, first dragon timing is so strong for renekton. his 1v1 so strong for such a long time, you just shove the enemy's poopoo in in top lane all day, then TP for shit like dragon.
liftlift > tsm
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
June 03 2014 18:46 GMT
#1807
For support thresh/nami are both good choices at the moment, mid with lulu/orianna (safe choices imo), jungle maybe kha/lee/elise?. I have no idea what goes top.
Bronze player stuck in platinum
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
June 03 2014 18:57 GMT
#1808
For soloQ? I think TF/Kat are way better for mid
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Vanka
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
China1336 Posts
June 03 2014 19:01 GMT
#1809
On June 04 2014 00:44 obesechicken13 wrote:
Camera lock: Y/N

I notice even nightblue uses camera lock but can scroll when necessary.
I find it such an inconvenience to aim when your perspective is changing with respect to the map as well as your opponents.

I hate scrolling while chasing though and am not Korean enough yet to use SZXC to scroll yet.


This post is a couple pages old, but have you ever watched people play bw or sc2? Right after they sent the workers to mine at the start of the game, they just select and deselect the workers/hotkeys repeatedly to warm their hands up/inflate their apm/etc. My LoL equivalent is clicking on the minimap and hitting space bar repeatedly as fast as I can comfortably in the first minute or so of the game. It might give you a seizure, but it also might help you with your camera control lol.
EquilasH
Profile Joined April 2009
Denmark2142 Posts
June 03 2014 19:28 GMT
#1810
On June 04 2014 03:13 RagequitBM wrote:
Kinda random, but the Jinx discussion a few pages ago made me think about it.
As an ADC main I'm really happy with bottom lane champions at the moment. Lucian is kinda really good, but not so good that it makes you hate playing the lane. All the supports are fun to play against, and with. Your damage is nowhere near S2 levels, but it's still pretty good, and you're not getting 100 - 0'd by Zeds all day. I'm really enjoying myself right now.

Also been trying to pick up other roles so that I can Solo queue and not free lose everytime I'm not ADC. And I wanted to learn 2 champions for each other role. So far I'm learning:
top: Bruiser Nid
Jungle: leesin/Kayle
Mid: Orianna
Support: Gragas

Any suggestions for a second champ in each role?


Tbh you don't really need to learn mid unless you enjoy playing it a lot, you will rarely, if ever, get forced to go mid and as a result your skills will deteriorate.

For champs I'd suggest something like this:

Top: Irelia, Shyvana or Jax
Jungle: Eve (only do Lee Sin if you're gonna play a lot of jungle)
Support: Thresh, Morg or Leona, and then you can run one unconventional support that is still strong (Gragas like you suggested yourself is great).
If you'd want to learn mid Orianna is a great starting point.
wat
Prog
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom1470 Posts
June 03 2014 19:41 GMT
#1811
For support you should pick up Karma. Really strong and you can early pick her into anything.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29904 Posts
June 03 2014 19:47 GMT
#1812
lolking ranked stats are not updating correctly? I've seen my death amount per hero increasing but W/L + kills is not, I still have 3-1 Lulu instead of 9-1 kills not added but deaths are :\ damn
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
June 03 2014 19:55 GMT
#1813
I would prolly avoid orianna if you don't plan on going mid a lot, or binging hard to learn her. She has quite a few matchup specific build orders and play styles. Lulu and kayle are much easier to pick up and play once in a while.
Freeeeeeedom
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-03 20:13:18
June 03 2014 20:08 GMT
#1814
On June 04 2014 04:28 EquilasH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2014 03:13 RagequitBM wrote:
Kinda random, but the Jinx discussion a few pages ago made me think about it.
As an ADC main I'm really happy with bottom lane champions at the moment. Lucian is kinda really good, but not so good that it makes you hate playing the lane. All the supports are fun to play against, and with. Your damage is nowhere near S2 levels, but it's still pretty good, and you're not getting 100 - 0'd by Zeds all day. I'm really enjoying myself right now.

Also been trying to pick up other roles so that I can Solo queue and not free lose everytime I'm not ADC. And I wanted to learn 2 champions for each other role. So far I'm learning:
top: Bruiser Nid
Jungle: leesin/Kayle
Mid: Orianna
Support: Gragas

Any suggestions for a second champ in each role?


Tbh you don't really need to learn mid unless you enjoy playing it a lot, you will rarely, if ever, get forced to go mid and as a result your skills will deteriorate.

For champs I'd suggest something like this:

Top: Irelia, Shyvana or Jax
Jungle: Eve (only do Lee Sin if you're gonna play a lot of jungle)
Support: Thresh, Morg or Leona, and then you can run one unconventional support that is still strong (Gragas like you suggested yourself is great).
If you'd want to learn mid Orianna is a great starting point.

I'd probably add renekton/trundle to top, and take out irelia. She snowballs negatively very hard, and has a soloq specific hard counter(darius), where you'd need to outplay ridiculously hard, or else get massive jungle help to win. Jax also is one where you need experience and outplaying to win.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
EquilasH
Profile Joined April 2009
Denmark2142 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-03 20:25:20
June 03 2014 20:21 GMT
#1815
On June 04 2014 05:08 Amui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2014 04:28 EquilasH wrote:
On June 04 2014 03:13 RagequitBM wrote:
Kinda random, but the Jinx discussion a few pages ago made me think about it.
As an ADC main I'm really happy with bottom lane champions at the moment. Lucian is kinda really good, but not so good that it makes you hate playing the lane. All the supports are fun to play against, and with. Your damage is nowhere near S2 levels, but it's still pretty good, and you're not getting 100 - 0'd by Zeds all day. I'm really enjoying myself right now.

Also been trying to pick up other roles so that I can Solo queue and not free lose everytime I'm not ADC. And I wanted to learn 2 champions for each other role. So far I'm learning:
top: Bruiser Nid
Jungle: leesin/Kayle
Mid: Orianna
Support: Gragas

Any suggestions for a second champ in each role?


Tbh you don't really need to learn mid unless you enjoy playing it a lot, you will rarely, if ever, get forced to go mid and as a result your skills will deteriorate.

For champs I'd suggest something like this:

Top: Irelia, Shyvana or Jax
Jungle: Eve (only do Lee Sin if you're gonna play a lot of jungle)
Support: Thresh, Morg or Leona, and then you can run one unconventional support that is still strong (Gragas like you suggested yourself is great).
If you'd want to learn mid Orianna is a great starting point.

I'd probably add renekton/trundle to top, and take out irelia. She snowballs negatively very hard, and has a soloq specific hard counter(darius), where you'd need to outplay ridiculously hard, or else get massive jungle help to win. Jax also is one where you need experience and outplaying to win.


I'd argue that Irelia is one of the strongest top laners atm, and she gets you the fundamentals down fairly quickly (also Darius is a counter but you can certainly outplay him and even then he is rarely picked, even for solo queue).
Renekton and Trundle are both very strong picks as well.

For the Orianna point, she has everything you need to learn mid, she is one of the highest demanding mids in regards to positioning (maybe along with Syndra) and if you get that down you can basically learn any mid from there (one of my previous points was that you shouldn't learn mid if you don't care to play it extensively).
wat
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
June 03 2014 20:23 GMT
#1816
Plus Orianna is fun to play!
Bronze player stuck in platinum
Bam Lee
Profile Joined June 2012
2336 Posts
June 03 2014 20:23 GMT
#1817
Ziggs and Lulu are the mid lanes i would recommend. Ziggs is pretty safe as a laner but can also make you snowball your lane. You also have a tool to reposition yourself.
Lulu is just lulu
EquilasH
Profile Joined April 2009
Denmark2142 Posts
June 03 2014 20:25 GMT
#1818
Yeah Ziggs is also a really great candidate for learning mids.
wat
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-03 20:40:23
June 03 2014 20:34 GMT
#1819
On June 04 2014 03:57 Sufficiency wrote:
For soloQ? I think TF/Kat are way better for mid

i think atm TF's lane presence is a little on the weaker side.

i still feel that annie is the most consistent mid lane you can learn in a short time


On June 04 2014 03:17 Kupon3ss wrote:
hurricane jinx is the best jinx

could you elaborate on this a little?
when would you fit hurricane into your build?
Anakko
Profile Joined August 2012
France1934 Posts
June 03 2014 20:43 GMT
#1820
Btw does anyone knows what happens when Twitch uses his ult with a hurricane? I can't try it as I don't own the champion
TrAce/Cpt Jack for president (or both)
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