EPT[Patch 4.6] Twitch VU General Discussion - Page 9
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Bearded Elder29903 Posts
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
On April 22 2014 19:58 nafta wrote: Why would what pros are doing matter?90% of the time they don't even 2v2 and atk speed is definitely better in laneswaps. Because pros are also allowed to play solo queue...? | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On April 22 2014 20:04 sylverfyre wrote: It's showing ALLIED cooldowns. It's just an improvement over the shitty green dot. And they're saying that with the stance Riot gave, it's possible to devise mods doing that for enemy cooldowns as well. Why is PoohManDu building idol since he has the relic shield? Or maybe it's for the CDR but that's paying a lot. | ||
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Sufficiency
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SagaZ
France3460 Posts
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Omnishroud
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On April 22 2014 20:21 Alaric wrote: And they're saying that with the stance Riot gave, it's possible to devise mods doing that for enemy cooldowns as well. Exactly. The stance is "information that is available to you" or some bullshit they spouted. So if the enemy is in your teams vision when he ults (lel) its completely fine by riot for a 3rd party program to then calculate and put a timer on it because the information was available to you. | ||
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Brad`
Canada548 Posts
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Omnishroud
1073 Posts
On April 22 2014 21:27 Brad` wrote: The exact cooldown of their ults is not information that is available to you. LOL Why wouldnt the cooldown of an enemy champions skill be considered as "available to you" when an allies is? Its the same algorithm. | ||
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Brad`
Canada548 Posts
On April 22 2014 21:33 Omnishroud wrote: Why wouldnt the cooldown of an enemy champions skill be considered as "available to you" when an allies is? Its the same algorithm. The game client doesn't tell you what runes/masteries they are running so seeing an opponent ult doesn't give you enough information to calculate its exact cooldown. It would have to pull information from a third party site like lolking to calculate it. Your client already tracks the exact cooldown of your teammates ult with the shitty green dot rofl. | ||
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Omnishroud
1073 Posts
On April 22 2014 21:34 Brad` wrote: The game client doesn't tell you what runes/masteries they are running so seeing an opponent ult doesn't give you enough information to calculate its exact cooldown. Your client already tracks the exact cooldown of your teammates ult with the shitty green dot rofl. The game has that information and its already used in other 3rd party software without issue. Lolnexus, pulls up this exact information. Why hasn't riot done something about it if its against the rules to know the enemies runes/masteries? What prevents another 3rd party program from using this information either directly from the client or outsourcing to lolnexus during the loading screen to gain it? Its a slippery slope. | ||
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Brad`
Canada548 Posts
On April 22 2014 21:38 Omnishroud wrote: The game has that information and its already used in other 3rd party software without issue. Lolnexus, pulls up this exact information. Why hasn't riot done something about it if its against the rules to know the enemies runes/masteries? What prevents another 3rd party program from using this information either directly from the client or outsourcing to lolnexus during the loading screen to gain it? Its a slippery slope. So instead of information "available to you" being defined as information provided by the client, you're going to expand it to include information pulled from third party sites just to fit your narrative? lol Obviously the line is crossed when you use information pulled from a third party site like lolking. | ||
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Velocirapture
United States983 Posts
Think of it this way, the SC HUD has a crapload of info including a scrolling bar that lists everything that is happening everywhere you see and yet how often do people get supply blocked? All the info you need is right there on your screen and yet keeping track of it is not easy. I think in the long run, pure diligence is not fun. Riot sees LoL primarily as a PvP game and winning handily without any conflict because your jungler doesn't track respawn times and yours does (which happens ALL the time) is a PvE focused experience. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19573 Posts
On April 22 2014 20:14 GolemMadness wrote: Because pros are also allowed to play solo queue...? Well, they probably want to practice last hitting with the sane AD and as... | ||
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Omnishroud
1073 Posts
On April 22 2014 21:45 Brad` wrote: So instead of information "available to you" being defined as information provided by the client, you're going to expand it to include information pulled from third party sites just to fit your narrative? lol Obviously the line is crossed when you use information pulled from a third party site like lolking. You're just being aggressive at this point and are apparently too stupid to read. Ciao. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Brad`
Canada548 Posts
On April 22 2014 21:48 Omnishroud wrote: You're just being aggressive at this point and are apparently too stupid to read. Ciao. Yes I'm too stupid to read when you started this conversation complaining about a feature that curse voice doesn't even have. Sorry to embarrass you. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On April 22 2014 21:27 Brad` wrote: The exact cooldown of their ults is not information that is available to you. LOL. You can time it the same way you time Baron/Dragon. Don't see why it isn't available to you. | ||
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Brad`
Canada548 Posts
On April 22 2014 22:01 Numy wrote: You can time it the same way you time Baron/Dragon. Don't see why it isn't available to you. Runes and masteries? | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Well technically you can lolnexus while in load screen and just see lol. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
Huh why are you asking an unrelated question now? Runes and masteries you would have to look at deviation from base but even then you don't see all the enemy stats so can't really do it. The best you can do is estimate what they are running based on popular trends along with that deviation. Don't really see what that has to do with timing enemy ultis. Timing enemy cooldowns is a pretty important skill at higher level play | ||
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Omnishroud
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