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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
April 17 2014 23:34 GMT
#1961
Dfg active is 15% max. And the damage is instant.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 17 2014 23:49 GMT
#1962
And it amplifies the following magic damage too, not only from you, but from the entire enemy team (DFG is cray cray in a double AP comp with AoE on the non-DFG wielder).
Lux has that on Orianna that she can be a real pussy in lane, for example Syndra is a dick to you, Ziggs is boring too, Lux doesn't care because they don't outrange her (or not enough) to prevent her from farming or to take her tower.
And she can faceroll QE once she gets chalice+blue buff and at some point a squishy within 1100 range will eat one of them and die because Finales Funkeln's base damage is absurdly high like that. And if you get lucky (or the enemy team is dumb) it's a double kill even. Orianna can't do this with her effective ~900 range with delay (I got 3 Shockwaves today cancelled because I died during the animation, makes me even saltier toward the fucking Lee Sin ult).
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
nobodywonder
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States848 Posts
April 18 2014 00:07 GMT
#1963
yo I'm a shitter who hasn't played really for a month, how do I get back in without feeding a shit ton?
i want nobody nobody but you! *clap* *clap*- wonder girls
UnKooL
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1667 Posts
April 18 2014 00:13 GMT
#1964
What is it with the disconnects (the one where u get attempting to connect in game then get the firewall message trying to reconnect) its gotta be drophackers right? Is it confirmed by riot yet and are they gonna do something about it?
LoL: UnKooL and SoloQFiendUnKooL, SC2: UnKooL
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
April 18 2014 00:16 GMT
#1965
Liandry's Torment is a bad item for mid laner in general. The only mid laners which I will forgive you for building this item are Brand and Teemo. And even so I am very iffy with building this item on Brand - I think a lot of people are overestimating the power of this item on Brand.

The most important thing to realize is that this item does % CURRENT health damage OVER TIME. Most non-AD mid laners do bursty magic damage (and almost always coupled with AOE and/or CC) and prefer to build AP items because AP items also provide a fair amount of defense. So, in the normal play pattern, you can easily get any target you wish to fairly low health even before Liandry's DoT ticks, rendering Liandry's damage fairly useless.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
April 18 2014 00:18 GMT
#1966
On April 18 2014 09:07 nobodywonder wrote:
yo I'm a shitter who hasn't played really for a month, how do I get back in without feeding a shit ton?


Feral Flare. Feral Flare everywhere.

Yi will 1v5 your team. Thanks Feral Flare.
Shyvana is raid-boss. Thanks Feral Flare.
Warwick is broken. Thanks Feral Flare.
Xin is OP. Thanks Feral Flare.
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GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-18 00:38:39
April 18 2014 00:28 GMT
#1967
I think the only champion I build liandry's on is support Karma. Actually, Singed also. And sometimes Eve.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 18 2014 00:30 GMT
#1968
Rumble.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-18 00:35:45
April 18 2014 00:35 GMT
#1969
On April 18 2014 09:30 Alaric wrote:
Rumble.


Not a mid laner.

On April 18 2014 09:28 GolemMadness wrote:
I think the only champion I build liandry's on is support Karma. Actually, Singed also.


Singed is definitely not a mid laner. Karma I'll let you have it.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
April 18 2014 00:38 GMT
#1970
On April 18 2014 09:35 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2014 09:30 Alaric wrote:
Rumble.


Not a mid laner.

Show nested quote +
On April 18 2014 09:28 GolemMadness wrote:
I think the only champion I build liandry's on is support Karma. Actually, Singed also.


Singed is definitely not a mid laner. Karma I'll let you have it.


Not saying either are, particularly since I specified support Karma.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-18 00:43:15
April 18 2014 00:42 GMT
#1971
Zyra mid/support I usually get it. I also frequently get it when I play Malz and Brand too.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
April 18 2014 00:49 GMT
#1972
On April 18 2014 09:42 JazzVortical wrote:
Zyra mid/support I usually get it. I also frequently get it when I play Malz and Brand too.

pretty sure its semi acceptable on anyone who doesnt rely on 100% the opposing mid laner
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-18 00:56:52
April 18 2014 00:54 GMT
#1973
Holy shit guys.


Let's talk about this instead of Liandry's. Fuck that item it's a nub trap anyway.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
April 18 2014 00:56 GMT
#1974
Crystal Rod + Liandry's on Soraka?
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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
April 18 2014 00:57 GMT
#1975
On April 18 2014 09:56 ticklishmusic wrote:
Crystal Rod + Liandry's on Soraka?

Rylai's is essential on Soraka, you probably know this already.

I think Abysal is a bit better on Soraka instead of Liandry's. The -20 MR is basically two Q casts worth of MR reduction for you.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-18 01:14:42
April 18 2014 01:01 GMT
#1976
On April 18 2014 09:16 Sufficiency wrote:
Liandry's Torment is a bad item for mid laner in general.


Liandry's just plain isn't that good of an item. Its primary advantage is that it builds out of Haunting Guise and Haunting Guise is really strong due to how penetration stacks. So if you're a champion who has a lot of base damage but doesn't have a lot of scaling damage you can get a lot out of it.

The only way Liandry's makes sense as an early game item is if you've got DoT's and Slows already in your kit (with low scaling and high base damage). So it works on Teemo (200-450 + .5 AP is really low scaling) and Karma (non-ult Q is on the low side of decent scaling. Ult Q is kinda poor scaling, Q CD is low and she plays a poke/siege game making reapplying strong) and Singed(even though his Q scaling is insane) because he will want Rylais' anyway and then everone in your poison takes it forever.

Edit: It would also be good if you're playing an AP duo lane with Leona as her magic damage counts as yours and so penetration (and dots to ensure sunlight procs in a timely fashion) becomes stronger

On April 18 2014 08:34 Sufficiency wrote:
Dfg active is 15% max. And the damage is instant.


Yes, i meant to type max. My point was that Liandry's passive can't really keep up with the active damage of DFG. Sorry for the confusion
traceurling
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1240 Posts
April 18 2014 01:02 GMT
#1977
Feral Flare is pretty strong right now .-. do you think Riot will nerf Feral Flare, or FF champions?
"Appreciate the things you have before they become the things you had."
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
April 18 2014 01:04 GMT
#1978
On April 18 2014 10:02 traceurling wrote:
Feral Flare is pretty strong right now .-. do you think Riot will nerf Feral Flare, or FF champions?


iirc, Feral Flare already getting some nerfs
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Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
April 18 2014 01:05 GMT
#1979
On April 18 2014 09:54 Sufficiency wrote:
Holy shit guys. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dvYxkyQFZU

Let's talk about this instead of Liandry's. Fuck that item it's a nub trap anyway.


We are getting Angus. Holy shit indeed
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
April 18 2014 01:14 GMT
#1980
solomid invitationals are coming back?? wombat casting <333
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