• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 20:06
CET 02:06
KST 10:06
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !6Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump1Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced15
StarCraft 2
General
ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career ! When will we find out if there are more tournament Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win Did they add GM to 2v2? RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview
Tourneys
RSL Offline Finals Info - Dec 13 and 14! Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1: Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement Mutation # 501 Price of Progress
Brood War
General
FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle How Rain Became ProGamer in Just 3 Months BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ [BSL21] RO8 Bracket & Prediction Contest BW General Discussion
Tourneys
Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] WB SEMIFINALS - Saturday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO8 - Day 2 - Sunday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Games Industry And ATVI Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
The (Hidden) Drug Problem in…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 906 users

[Patch 4.5] Rune Rework General Discussion - Page 14

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 12 13 14 15 16 118 Next
New Article: Interview with Chobra (OGN)
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-03 21:07:26
April 03 2014 21:06 GMT
#261
If you don't ping for it you're kind of an asshole, IMO.


By the way, our champion guides have gotten sad. Most of them are incredibly out of date and nobody posts in the strategy section anymore.

Why is this?
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Kyrie
Profile Joined June 2013
1594 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-03 21:17:03
April 03 2014 21:10 GMT
#262
consider the amount of work you put into the lux guide

then consider the amount of grief and ignorance you had to put up with in the responses to it

it's also usually more convenient to ask champion related questions in these gd threads

this starts getting into my personal beef with how the game is run but the incessant patch cycle makes it necessary to regularly update champion guides. this has, at least for me, been a major reason not to attempt writing one
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
April 03 2014 21:11 GMT
#263
On April 04 2014 05:57 AsnSensation wrote:
ad junglers with madreds & spiritstone can solo dragon so easy lol because the atk speed debuff is gone. Surely Riot is gonna fix that?


I wouldn't bet on it.
chalice
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1945 Posts
April 03 2014 21:12 GMT
#264
On April 04 2014 06:03 GolemMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 05:58 Amarok wrote:
Question for the junglers. How long do you wait for your midlaner to come and take blue? I understand it's not always hugely convenient for them, but I've got places to be as well.

I have begun taking it if they don't start moving over once I've pinged twice. Am I a bad person?


I don't even ping for it. If they don't start walking over or ping that they're walking over, I just take it.

if you don't ping there's pretty much no way for the midlaner to tell if they are wasting time walking over just to have you smite it in their face. no real reason not to communicate with a couple mouse clicks once every 5 minutes unless you are just doing some passive selfish play without admitting to yourself that you just don't want to give away your blue.
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
April 03 2014 21:16 GMT
#265
On April 04 2014 06:03 GolemMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 05:58 Amarok wrote:
Question for the junglers. How long do you wait for your midlaner to come and take blue? I understand it's not always hugely convenient for them, but I've got places to be as well.

I have begun taking it if they don't start moving over once I've pinged twice. Am I a bad person?


I don't even ping for it. If they don't start walking over or ping that they're walking over, I just take it.

A ping or saying something in chat ("blue after this wave") or smt like that is customary. If they don't move towards blue as soon as it seems appropriate to me (minions in middle dead) then I just take the blue instantly.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
April 03 2014 21:16 GMT
#266
On April 04 2014 06:12 chalice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 06:03 GolemMadness wrote:
On April 04 2014 05:58 Amarok wrote:
Question for the junglers. How long do you wait for your midlaner to come and take blue? I understand it's not always hugely convenient for them, but I've got places to be as well.

I have begun taking it if they don't start moving over once I've pinged twice. Am I a bad person?


I don't even ping for it. If they don't start walking over or ping that they're walking over, I just take it.

if you don't ping there's pretty much no way for the midlaner to tell if they are wasting time walking over just to have you smite it in their face. no real reason not to communicate with a couple mouse clicks once every 5 minutes unless you are just doing some passive selfish play without admitting to yourself that you just don't want to give away your blue.


If they indicate that they're coming to get it, then I give it to them. If they don't, then they probably don't need it that much. Unless they're a champion that especially needs blue or they're doing exceptionally well, I generally think that I'll be able to do more with it, so no, I don't want to give it away.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35164 Posts
April 03 2014 21:17 GMT
#267
Farewell flat CDR glyphs, scaling beats you in spades.
nosliw
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2716 Posts
April 03 2014 21:20 GMT
#268
What's the new math on runes? Scaling>>flat for armor /mr/ cdr?
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
April 03 2014 21:21 GMT
#269
On April 04 2014 06:11 Disengaged wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 05:57 AsnSensation wrote:
ad junglers with madreds & spiritstone can solo dragon so easy lol because the atk speed debuff is gone. Surely Riot is gonna fix that?


I wouldn't bet on it.


You can buy Madreds and Spirit Stone?

I thought you were limited to one gold item?

Oh I get it, Spirit Stone isn't a gold item even though its upgrades are. That's dumb.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
April 03 2014 21:24 GMT
#270
On April 04 2014 06:20 nosliw wrote:
What's the new math on runes? Scaling>>flat for armor /mr/ cdr?


Here's the basic scaling vs flat math.

ALL of the changed runes now break even at level 6-7 (very slightly worse at 6, very slightly better at 7).

What this means is that there's really no best in slot anymore. It's entirely situational based on the champion, lane opponent, etc.


Has anybody tried new quints on ADC yet?
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35164 Posts
April 03 2014 21:25 GMT
#271
On April 04 2014 06:24 Ketara wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 06:20 nosliw wrote:
What's the new math on runes? Scaling>>flat for armor /mr/ cdr?


Here's the basic scaling vs flat math.

ALL of the changed runes now break even at level 6-7 (very slightly worse at 6, very slightly better at 7).

What this means is that there's really no best in slot anymore. It's entirely situational based on the champion, lane opponent, etc.


Has anybody tried new quints on ADC yet?

Off the top of my head, scaling cdr glyphs break even at 9.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-03 21:27:01
April 03 2014 21:26 GMT
#272
Oh whaaaaaat.

DAMN YOU RITA

Wait, that's because those weren't changed. I said the changed ones.

DAMN YOU GAHLO
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
April 03 2014 21:29 GMT
#273
wurld champinship skinz

http://www.surrenderat20.net/2014/04/43-pbe-update.html
It's your boy Guzma!
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
April 03 2014 21:31 GMT
#274
For AD I'd probably take the buffed flat atk speed quints (14%), scaling armor yellows, AD reds, and flat mr blues. > grab an early vamp scepter.

dunno the buff on the atk speed quints seems really good.

Also should experiment with some scaling cdr quints.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35164 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-03 21:40:22
April 03 2014 21:39 GMT
#275
On April 04 2014 06:26 Ketara wrote:
Oh whaaaaaat.

DAMN YOU RITA

Wait, that's because those weren't changed. I said the changed ones.

DAMN YOU GAHLO

Yes they were. Old version scaled up to 10% and broke even at level "13.5," new ones scale up to 15% and break even at level9.

I'm interested to see if mages grab a couple flat CDR quints.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
April 03 2014 21:41 GMT
#276
Wow, just saw the ward placement range on feral flare. That's actually pretty cool.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-03 21:43:58
April 03 2014 21:43 GMT
#277
On April 04 2014 05:57 AsnSensation wrote:
ad junglers with madreds & spiritstone can solo dragon so easy lol because the atk speed debuff is gone. Surely Riot is gonna fix that?


1400 gold to solo drag easy with almost not a lot of combat stats seems pretty extreme.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
Cheap0
Profile Joined July 2012
United States540 Posts
April 03 2014 21:46 GMT
#278
Never thought I'd have trouble getting a game as jungler in a team builder game. I guess everyone else is testing out Feral Flare too. I wonder how it'll fare on jungle Fiora.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
April 03 2014 21:46 GMT
#279
On April 04 2014 06:10 Kyrie wrote:
consider the amount of work you put into the lux guide

then consider the amount of grief and ignorance you had to put up with in the responses to it

it's also usually more convenient to ask champion related questions in these gd threads

this starts getting into my personal beef with how the game is run but the incessant patch cycle makes it necessary to regularly update champion guides. this has, at least for me, been a major reason not to attempt writing one

alot of the trolling was by idk i dont guess you'd call sheep a moderator but you cant report them so its pretty retarded cause his guide was good too, but most of the pages was trolling and retarded posts
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
nosliw
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2716 Posts
April 03 2014 21:48 GMT
#280
On April 04 2014 06:24 Ketara wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 06:20 nosliw wrote:
What's the new math on runes? Scaling>>flat for armor /mr/ cdr?


Here's the basic scaling vs flat math.

ALL of the changed runes now break even at level 6-7 (very slightly worse at 6, very slightly better at 7).

What this means is that there's really no best in slot anymore. It's entirely situational based on the champion, lane opponent, etc.


Has anybody tried new quints on ADC yet?

What about the Armor vs HP ? Armor got nerf, and HP got buffed
Prev 1 12 13 14 15 16 118 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 9h 55m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft427
ProTech127
Nathanias 48
StarCraft: Brood War
Artosis 589
Bale 163
NaDa 26
Mong 6
Dota 2
syndereN957
League of Legends
C9.Mang0213
Counter-Strike
Foxcn135
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox78
Other Games
summit1g11865
Day[9].tv584
ViBE154
Maynarde92
RotterdaM91
Trikslyr72
Mew2King42
CosmosSc2 37
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 106
• RyuSc2 37
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• Migwel
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• Pr0nogo 9
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota22555
League of Legends
• Doublelift4075
Other Games
• imaqtpie1800
• Scarra684
• Day9tv584
Upcoming Events
WardiTV 2025
9h 55m
ByuN vs Creator
Clem vs Rogue
Scarlett vs Spirit
ShoWTimE vs Cure
OSC
12h 55m
Big Brain Bouts
15h 55m
YoungYakov vs Jumy
TriGGeR vs Spirit
CranKy Ducklings
1d 8h
WardiTV 2025
1d 9h
Reynor vs MaxPax
SHIN vs TBD
Solar vs herO
Classic vs TBD
SC Evo League
1d 11h
Ladder Legends
1d 17h
BSL 21
1d 18h
Sziky vs Dewalt
eOnzErG vs Cross
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
Ladder Legends
2 days
[ Show More ]
BSL 21
2 days
StRyKeR vs TBD
Bonyth vs TBD
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
WardiTV Invitational
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
WardiTV Invitational
6 days
ByuN vs Solar
Clem vs Classic
Cure vs herO
Reynor vs MaxPax
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4 - TS3
RSL Offline Finals
Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
CSL Season 19: Qualifier 1
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22

Upcoming

CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.