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Kupon3ss
時の回廊10066 Posts
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On March 18 2014 12:00 Kupon3ss wrote: utility champions by their very existence bring non-homogeneous power curves due to their abilities not scaling directly on damage, which is something thay lies in the very center of what riot is trying to do away with Yep. thats pretty much what I'm saying. either a character is used commonly because their utility is needed, or they are forsaken because its not. alternately they make the character absurdly powerful always to compensate for its utility not being needed all the time, and the character is just always used period. or the opposite. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
I would be fine with tweaking AP ratios or base values on her W speed boost and her ult, but nerfing Lich Bane is like breaking everyone's crutches because one handicapped guy robbed a bank. | ||
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LoCicero
1100 Posts
 . Maybe tomorrow. | ||
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TheHumanSensation
Canada1210 Posts
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
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Kupon3ss
時の回廊10066 Posts
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On March 18 2014 11:46 Ryuu314 wrote: I think that I should clarify that I don't think Lichbane is the only reason why Lulu is a problem. I think she needs more/other nerfs as well, probably a revert on her passive buff. However, I do think the strength of Lichbane is an issue and should be nerfed given how many champions the item has "pushed over the edge" in the past. Nerfing Lichbane and buffing traditional Lichbane users to compensate is a good place to start looking at what changes need to be made, if any, to bring champions like Lulu into line. I also said it earlier, but I'll reiterate. It's important to realize that Riot said that they never intended Lichbane to be an item for burst damage, but rather for sustained damage on mages that rely on autos. DFG has always been the intended AP burst item. The issue is that Lichbane post-season 3 changes is so strong that it serves the dual function of increasing sustained AP dps AND increasing burst damage by a large margin. Isn't it how it was being used (outside of Fizz?) Lulu auto attacks plenty, just look at her kit on her passive. Same for Kayle, with her E on her kit. The result was it was too much burst, but remember this was after they insanely buffed Kayle's E in the first place, and Lulu's passive. also note, zamphira's Lulu did not revolve around lichbane as it's item, and he was still using it to quite a good success. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21242 Posts
On March 18 2014 11:50 ticklishmusic wrote: Can we not make cancer jokes, its kind of offensive and not really applicable. Stick with fat people ice cream analogy pls. Anyways, if you've got late-stage metastatic cancer, you're probably dead anyways. Anyways (again) Lulu mid was fine. Even buying Lich Bane for the extra AP ratio only makes her damage adequate. Her utility is definitely great (especially with added levels and AP scaling), but she still has significantly less damage than other mids. Just play Veigar or something against her and blow stuff up and laugh at her. She was fine, but Riot's philosophy is that it has to kneejerk nerf everything before players come out with it, which further encourages players to depend on kneejerk nerfs which preserve the meta they have a loe/hate relationship with. Uh, yeah, I think I just got cancer. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On March 18 2014 13:14 oneofthem wrote: riot's war against lulu carry is sickening. her pick/ban rate is insane. Like Zed status. | ||
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Dusty
United States3359 Posts
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YouGotNothin
United States907 Posts
Really I am just super excited about Diana buff, stopped building Lich Bane on her awhile ago anyways, time to read Diamond's new Jungle Diana guide and wreck nerds! All she needed was just a litttttlee tiny nudge to be solid and I think this may be it. | ||
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AsianEcksDragon
United States1036 Posts
On March 18 2014 11:50 ticklishmusic wrote: Can we not make cancer jokes, its kind of offensive and not really applicable. Stick with fat people ice cream analogy pls. Anyways, if you've got late-stage metastatic cancer, you're probably dead anyways. Anyways (again) Lulu mid was fine. Even buying Lich Bane for the extra AP ratio only makes her damage adequate. Her utility is definitely great (especially with added levels and AP scaling), but she still has significantly less damage than other mids. Just play Veigar or something against her and blow stuff up and laugh at her. She was fine, but Riot's philosophy is that it has to kneejerk nerf everything before players come out with it, which further encourages players to depend on kneejerk nerfs which preserve the meta they have a loe/hate relationship with. BV? What's that. Let me just get a Refresher so I can blow people up after popping it!. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On March 18 2014 13:14 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: Uh, yeah, I think I just got cancer. For you, it was probably a pre-existing condition. But if it makes you feel better, I've had two good friends die from it. On March 18 2014 13:36 AsianEcksDragon wrote: BV? What's that. Let me just get a Refresher so I can blow people up after popping it!. If you're using your combo on someone with BV on them, you're going to have a bad time. That and you're probably in Wood league. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35076 Posts
http://piltoverpundit.wordpress.com/2014/03/18/strategy-evolved-kt-rolsters-khazix-comp/ Contains IEMWC and Champions spoilers. | ||
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
riot realizes that khazix was no longer being played as an assassin but instead as a tanky unkillable early dominating safe assassin teamfight jungler as such they take away his damage reduction and unit walking while stealthed and reduced all ratios and also can only evolve one ability | ||
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SugiStyle
Finland42 Posts
some of my own thoughts about the patch overall | ||
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
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