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Yezzus
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
United States2318 Posts
February 12 2014 02:20 GMT
#381
On February 12 2014 11:11 dae wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2014 10:48 phyvo wrote:
On February 12 2014 08:18 cLutZ wrote:
On February 12 2014 08:09 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
On February 12 2014 07:55 Yezzus wrote:
Is it me or does the new champ look really awesome? His kit seems pretty interesting too

I'm just waiting patiently until TL ruins this guy for me too. Every time, I'm like "OMG this champ looks so rad" and then the unstoppable wave of cynicism makes me feel bad. At least it's not as bad as the movie forums.


I think people pretty much Unanimously liked Jinx didn't they? And Lissandra was a total TeamLiquid favorite when she was released.

Its just when you release certain kinds of champions in a row...


I actually hated Jinx in concept/personality. She ended up being fun to play though so I mostly forgave her even though part of me resents any ADC that overshadows Kog Maw. Back then some TLers told me they thought Kog could became a thing again, I'm still waiting for that.


Kog wont ever be a thing while jinx is alive. Shes just a better version of him.

Depends...Kog still does way more damage end game......but yea thats it
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
February 12 2014 02:20 GMT
#382
On February 12 2014 11:11 dae wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2014 10:48 phyvo wrote:
On February 12 2014 08:18 cLutZ wrote:
On February 12 2014 08:09 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
On February 12 2014 07:55 Yezzus wrote:
Is it me or does the new champ look really awesome? His kit seems pretty interesting too

I'm just waiting patiently until TL ruins this guy for me too. Every time, I'm like "OMG this champ looks so rad" and then the unstoppable wave of cynicism makes me feel bad. At least it's not as bad as the movie forums.


I think people pretty much Unanimously liked Jinx didn't they? And Lissandra was a total TeamLiquid favorite when she was released.

Its just when you release certain kinds of champions in a row...


I actually hated Jinx in concept/personality. She ended up being fun to play though so I mostly forgave her even though part of me resents any ADC that overshadows Kog Maw. Back then some TLers told me they thought Kog could became a thing again, I'm still waiting for that.


Kog wont ever be a thing while jinx is alive. Shes just a better version of him.


Yeah, that's what I had said. I was hoping I was wrong.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
Nemireck
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1875 Posts
February 12 2014 02:20 GMT
#383
On February 12 2014 08:42 Kinie wrote:
(MF + Leona vs Jinx + Janna, WW jungle vs. Wukong jungle) or high skill champs (Kassidan, LB).


Which are the "weak" picks here?

MF + Leona is a beastly lane and MF snowballs really well. Jinx is a great ADC and Janna has her moments too.

I've seen both WW and Wukong junglers carry games... so I'm confused about your complaint.
Teamwork is awesome... As long as your team is doing all the work!
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
February 12 2014 02:24 GMT
#384
On February 12 2014 11:20 Yezzus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2014 11:11 dae wrote:
On February 12 2014 10:48 phyvo wrote:
On February 12 2014 08:18 cLutZ wrote:
On February 12 2014 08:09 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
On February 12 2014 07:55 Yezzus wrote:
Is it me or does the new champ look really awesome? His kit seems pretty interesting too

I'm just waiting patiently until TL ruins this guy for me too. Every time, I'm like "OMG this champ looks so rad" and then the unstoppable wave of cynicism makes me feel bad. At least it's not as bad as the movie forums.


I think people pretty much Unanimously liked Jinx didn't they? And Lissandra was a total TeamLiquid favorite when she was released.

Its just when you release certain kinds of champions in a row...


I actually hated Jinx in concept/personality. She ended up being fun to play though so I mostly forgave her even though part of me resents any ADC that overshadows Kog Maw. Back then some TLers told me they thought Kog could became a thing again, I'm still waiting for that.


Kog wont ever be a thing while jinx is alive. Shes just a better version of him.

Depends...Kog still does way more damage end game......but yea thats it

??????
Bronze player stuck in platinum
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
February 12 2014 02:33 GMT
#385
I generally do have a small champion pool and try to keep my skills up on them.

Jungle; Vi, Shyvana, Zac, Lee Sin, Kha'Zix (still learning how to Insec though)
Top: Riven, Shyvana, Shen, Kha'Zix, Aatrox
Mid: Kassadin, Karma, Kha'Zix
ADC: Jinx, Caitlyn, Lucian, Varus
Support: Thresh, Leona, Sona

Side note: I find it amusing that 0 regions picked Riven for the Path of Freedom. NA picked Truth (diana), while most other areas picked Warrior (Trynd). It looks like the other areas that picked truth are Canada, Russia, Australia and Garena/South Korea.
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
February 12 2014 02:34 GMT
#386
America already has freedom, we could use some truth thou.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
February 12 2014 02:40 GMT
#387
On February 12 2014 11:11 dae wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2014 10:48 phyvo wrote:
On February 12 2014 08:18 cLutZ wrote:
On February 12 2014 08:09 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
On February 12 2014 07:55 Yezzus wrote:
Is it me or does the new champ look really awesome? His kit seems pretty interesting too

I'm just waiting patiently until TL ruins this guy for me too. Every time, I'm like "OMG this champ looks so rad" and then the unstoppable wave of cynicism makes me feel bad. At least it's not as bad as the movie forums.


I think people pretty much Unanimously liked Jinx didn't they? And Lissandra was a total TeamLiquid favorite when she was released.

Its just when you release certain kinds of champions in a row...


I actually hated Jinx in concept/personality. She ended up being fun to play though so I mostly forgave her even though part of me resents any ADC that overshadows Kog Maw. Back then some TLers told me they thought Kog could became a thing again, I'm still waiting for that.


Kog wont ever be a thing while jinx is alive. Shes just a better version of him.

Well that need not be true. For starters they could boost his uptime on w so he can be in turret mode more often. They could compensate him more lategame with a better base as so he scales more ridiculously with items, etc.

Jinx and kog both can be good if they are allowed to have different peaks.
Freeeeeeedom
MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
February 12 2014 02:44 GMT
#388
On February 12 2014 11:01 Yezzus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2014 10:48 phyvo wrote:
On February 12 2014 08:18 cLutZ wrote:
On February 12 2014 08:09 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
On February 12 2014 07:55 Yezzus wrote:
Is it me or does the new champ look really awesome? His kit seems pretty interesting too

I'm just waiting patiently until TL ruins this guy for me too. Every time, I'm like "OMG this champ looks so rad" and then the unstoppable wave of cynicism makes me feel bad. At least it's not as bad as the movie forums.


I think people pretty much Unanimously liked Jinx didn't they? And Lissandra was a total TeamLiquid favorite when she was released.

Its just when you release certain kinds of champions in a row...


I actually hated Jinx in concept/personality. She ended up being fun to play though so I mostly forgave her even though part of me resents any ADC that overshadows Kog Maw. Back then some TLers told me they thought Kog could became a thing again, I'm still waiting for that.

Kog is awesome...my favorite AD

Mine too. Koggles is the best
Platinum Support GOD
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
February 12 2014 02:45 GMT
#389
On February 12 2014 11:34 Parnage wrote:
America already has freedom, we could use some truth thou.


Fuck NSA.

Am I doing this right?
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
February 12 2014 02:48 GMT
#390
On February 12 2014 11:33 Kinie wrote:
I generally do have a small champion pool and try to keep my skills up on them.

Jungle; Vi, Shyvana, Zac, Lee Sin, Kha'Zix (still learning how to Insec though)
Top: Riven, Shyvana, Shen, Kha'Zix, Aatrox
Mid: Kassadin, Karma, Kha'Zix
ADC: Jinx, Caitlyn, Lucian, Varus
Support: Thresh, Leona, Sona

Side note: I find it amusing that 0 regions picked Riven for the Path of Freedom. NA picked Truth (diana), while most other areas picked Warrior (Trynd). It looks like the other areas that picked truth are Canada, Russia, Australia and Garena/South Korea.


I see. Well keep at it, or we can try duo'ing once I hit 30 on my smurf (almost 26.... it's so fucking slow... god damn it...)
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Cheap0
Profile Joined July 2012
United States540 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-12 02:58:39
February 12 2014 02:53 GMT
#391
On February 12 2014 09:15 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2014 09:02 Cheap0 wrote:
On February 12 2014 08:42 Kinie wrote:
I mean, I'm bronze 1 right now, and more often than not when I win it's because the enemy team threw, not because of something my team did. Out of the last 7 ranked games I've played, I went 2-5 (after going 6-4 in placements), with one win being from the enemy team throwing, and the losses all being from my team raging at each other and feeding kills to their opponent. It doesn't help that they generally picked weak champions (MF + Leona vs Jinx + Janna, WW jungle vs. Wukong jungle) or high skill champs (Kassidan, LB).

It's why I want a duo partner; if I play bad then I can at least try to give the duo partner kills or put him/her in a position for them to carry me, and visa versa. And with me being jungler, if the partner is mid or top I can feed kills to them with ganks and snowball them that way. If the duo person is adc/support then I can try to gank bot or rely on them to make sure they don't throw and I can focus on making sure mid/top get kills or don't feed.


Honestly, in Bronze, whether a champion is good or not isn't all that important. Play what you like, get good with it, and you'll carry no problem.

In any case, don't be shy with pings if your allies are doing something stupid. It's a good habit to develop.


I disagree with this sentiment. Theoretically you can always outplay your opponent no matter how bad your champion/lane match up is, we are in our perspective leagues for a reason - we are probably fairly close in skills with other players in that league, and it's not possible to suddenly improve to Diamond I's skill level over night.

While I think everyone will agree that having a small yet focused champion pool helps, I think it also helps a lot to choose "strong" champions into this pool - because we should all try to get all the advantages we can get.


That's true, though I say this because...

1. It's easier to stick with playing a small pool of champions if they're champions that you like playing.

2. Getting bogged down worrying about anything besides mechanics and game sense (like whether a champion is OP or not) is a liability in Bronze. The worst thing a Bronze player can do is leave a game thinking, "I lost because X is OP."

EDIT: Forgot, learning "OP" champions also increases the chance of you getting banned out.
dae
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada1600 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-12 03:07:25
February 12 2014 03:06 GMT
#392
New Xerath is interesting.

His close range damage is very very large. Q doesnt go on cooldown till you launch it, so close range q's are very short cooldown.

ewq rrr does alot of damage, and can be done in the 2 second stun.

Feels somewhat like a combination of ziggs and lux, but is very squishy and no escapes and self slow/root means that he can be dove upon and killed very easily. It's interesting how his skills have range but the longer range you get the less dps you do. (Q)

Ult range is wtf, doesn't need to be 1/2 the map, rank 3 being a bit more then rank 1 range would be fine.

My ewq alone combo was almost 1 shotting squishies.
Frudgey
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada3367 Posts
February 12 2014 03:08 GMT
#393
On February 12 2014 07:17 Celial wrote:
Runes/Masteries for Aatrox and Darius? For Nocturne I'm going to try Ninjakens guide.


If I'm jungling the D-man I run 9/21/0 Masteries, and for runes I do AD Marks/Armour Seals/MR/level Glyphs and Movement Speed Quints. The MS Quints bump his base movement speed from 340 to 355, and then coupled with his passive he can stick to people very well once he catches up with them.
It is better to die for The Emperor than live for yourself.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
February 12 2014 03:08 GMT
#394
I've played against him once so far. I was a little bit surprised with his level 3 damage combo, but honestly he didn't seem very dissimilar from old Xerath aside from the BS ult range.

Roaming vs. him is annoying because he barely has to leave the lane to countergank you with his ult. Prob easier to just play some Assassin lane bully and kill him in lane over and over.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
February 12 2014 04:14 GMT
#395
i keep accidentally breaking ult from from just 1 mis-rightclick rofl
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-12 04:26:26
February 12 2014 04:26 GMT
#396
So since vel koz is on the PBE I decided to figure out what full combo base damage he had at level 6.

For comparison, Leblanc leveling W for waveclear: 555 magic damage
Vel koz leveling W for maximum damages (and waveclear): 825 magic damage and 255 true damage (from passive procs).

Of course that's assumes you hit every tick of his 2.5 second lazor beam ultimate that constitutes 60% of the damage. Leblanc's ult is only 36% of her damage.

I'm sure the numbers will change but it was fun to work with them.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
Yezzus
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
United States2318 Posts
February 12 2014 04:27 GMT
#397
On February 12 2014 11:24 Nos- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2014 11:20 Yezzus wrote:
On February 12 2014 11:11 dae wrote:
On February 12 2014 10:48 phyvo wrote:
On February 12 2014 08:18 cLutZ wrote:
On February 12 2014 08:09 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
On February 12 2014 07:55 Yezzus wrote:
Is it me or does the new champ look really awesome? His kit seems pretty interesting too

I'm just waiting patiently until TL ruins this guy for me too. Every time, I'm like "OMG this champ looks so rad" and then the unstoppable wave of cynicism makes me feel bad. At least it's not as bad as the movie forums.


I think people pretty much Unanimously liked Jinx didn't they? And Lissandra was a total TeamLiquid favorite when she was released.

Its just when you release certain kinds of champions in a row...


I actually hated Jinx in concept/personality. She ended up being fun to play though so I mostly forgave her even though part of me resents any ADC that overshadows Kog Maw. Back then some TLers told me they thought Kog could became a thing again, I'm still waiting for that.


Kog wont ever be a thing while jinx is alive. Shes just a better version of him.

Depends...Kog still does way more damage end game......but yea thats it

??????

what? If both Ads can stand still and just auto Kog will melt everyone much faster,.......but like i said that's all he can do and that scenario never happens
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
February 12 2014 04:39 GMT
#398
Has anyone been having trouble with Vi's Q? Whenever I try to charge it up sometimes the Q will just go off randomly, I'm not sure if I'm just doing something wrong or it's a bug.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 12 2014 04:51 GMT
#399
On February 12 2014 13:27 Yezzus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2014 11:24 Nos- wrote:
On February 12 2014 11:20 Yezzus wrote:
On February 12 2014 11:11 dae wrote:
On February 12 2014 10:48 phyvo wrote:
On February 12 2014 08:18 cLutZ wrote:
On February 12 2014 08:09 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
On February 12 2014 07:55 Yezzus wrote:
Is it me or does the new champ look really awesome? His kit seems pretty interesting too

I'm just waiting patiently until TL ruins this guy for me too. Every time, I'm like "OMG this champ looks so rad" and then the unstoppable wave of cynicism makes me feel bad. At least it's not as bad as the movie forums.


I think people pretty much Unanimously liked Jinx didn't they? And Lissandra was a total TeamLiquid favorite when she was released.

Its just when you release certain kinds of champions in a row...


I actually hated Jinx in concept/personality. She ended up being fun to play though so I mostly forgave her even though part of me resents any ADC that overshadows Kog Maw. Back then some TLers told me they thought Kog could became a thing again, I'm still waiting for that.


Kog wont ever be a thing while jinx is alive. Shes just a better version of him.

Depends...Kog still does way more damage end game......but yea thats it

??????

what? If both Ads can stand still and just auto Kog will melt everyone much faster,.......but like i said that's all he can do and that scenario never happens

You forgot the part that you have an AP mid that just chunks 2-3 people down to 40% of their health, and Jinx presses R.
liftlift > tsm
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
February 12 2014 05:08 GMT
#400
So interesting bug. Pantheon was coming to gank me, and aside from a floating red and blue buff indicator, he was completely invisible. He turned visible after I died though.

New passive op.
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