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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
November 10 2013 18:30 GMT
#2541
Gold really easy to get now. Maybe I should tryhard next season for plat.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
November 10 2013 18:59 GMT
#2542
On November 11 2013 03:25 Numy wrote:
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On November 10 2013 23:41 justiceknight wrote:
On November 10 2013 14:06 justiceknight wrote:
36 hours to go and i have work tomorrow and 80 pts gold1 right now , WHAT SHOULD I DOOOOOOOOOOOOOO



ok i can kiss goodbye to my plat, all the plat V decide to troll and i am 50 pts now. screw this game .....


I gave up when I was getting 5 lp a win at 20 lp :<

I get the feeling that I probably did the same grind for bronze > silver and silver > gold but since end of season pressure suddenly it all became stressful. Gave up on it too much pressure. I'll go for plat at the start of next season when I play with a more relaxed mindset
Glorious SEA doto
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-10 19:02:56
November 10 2013 19:01 GMT
#2543
On November 10 2013 19:22 red_ wrote:
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On November 10 2013 19:12 Schnake wrote:
I got my smurf to gold V yesterday, yay. Annie support is fun, especially when you have Malphite and Orianna in your team. Wombo Combo!


Bro that's like, totally not worth posting about, USnip has moseyed on into gold every season, nothing to be excited about. I mean it's like, your smurf bro, you know how ezpz that is, please.

Yeah, I know, it's pretty dickish, but the target really has been getting lower. I'm legitimately worse than I was in previous years and personally I don't think gold V is a sufficiently severe cutoff, on the basis that I made it without a million games. There is no way I should be getting the fancy ego skin.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
November 10 2013 19:36 GMT
#2544
I've won 8 of my last 10 matches. Just got past 50lp.

Diamond was just a foolish dream.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
TheRabidDeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States3806 Posts
November 10 2013 22:16 GMT
#2545
How good of practice is intermediate co-op vs bots? Do they play on like bronze level?
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
November 10 2013 22:18 GMT
#2546
If you play vs Blitzcrank bot, its /ff @ 20. Fucker does not miss hooks.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
November 10 2013 22:24 GMT
#2547
You will learn to fear the Annie bot.

Also, I've given up on plat. Woo. Guess theres always next season.
Would you guys say that Gold 1 = ~High plat 4?
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
November 10 2013 22:26 GMT
#2548
On November 11 2013 07:24 57 Corvette wrote:
You will learn to fear the Annie bot.

Also, I've given up on plat. Woo. Guess theres always next season.
Would you guys say that Gold 1 = ~High plat 4?

depends on how much lp you're winning. If 20 pts or more a game. Probably plat 3. If more like 5pts a game more likely around plat v (minus all the trolls who start tankinh after getting in)
liftlift > tsm
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
November 10 2013 22:39 GMT
#2549
On November 11 2013 07:16 TheRabidDeer wrote:
How good of practice is intermediate co-op vs bots? Do they play on like bronze level?


No. I don't even know if they have runes/masteries.

Like, COOP vs. AI can be won with lvl 1 all ins every game.
Freeeeeeedom
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
November 10 2013 22:40 GMT
#2550
I doubt the bots would start flaming each other and lose just because of it though.
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28102 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-10 22:59:58
November 10 2013 22:59 GMT
#2551
How is league progression in LoL anyways? Is it like super hard to get from league to league? Like let's say you just got to level 30 and started to play ranked, would it take forever to get diamond? Assuming that you're diamond material, obviously you won't get to diamond if you suck, lol
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Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-10 23:06:50
November 10 2013 23:04 GMT
#2552
On November 11 2013 07:59 TheEmulator wrote:
How is league progression in LoL anyways? Is it like super hard to get from league to league? Like let's say you just got to level 30 and started to play ranked, would it take forever to get diamond? Assuming that you're diamond material, obviously you won't get to diamond if you suck, lol


You can probably maintain 80+% winrate until you hit somewhere around mid plat, at which point it'll drop down to ~55-60%(Assuming D4 or so in skill). Some games you simply won't win(stuff like jungle tryn getting 4 kills by 5 minutes for example). Probably around 100-200 games to get to diamond though unless you're really, really fucking good.

On November 11 2013 07:16 TheRabidDeer wrote:
How good of practice is intermediate co-op vs bots? Do they play on like bronze level?


Depends on the bot. Something like annie/fiddle bot will be a challenge for the majority of bronze league, but for the most part, they're pretty fucking bad. Good for learning/practicing a new hero, not good for much else.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
November 10 2013 23:05 GMT
#2553
On November 11 2013 07:59 TheEmulator wrote:
How is league progression in LoL anyways? Is it like super hard to get from league to league? Like let's say you just got to level 30 and started to play ranked, would it take forever to get diamond? Assuming that you're diamond material, obviously you won't get to diamond if you suck, lol

My general feeling on this is that from division 5 to division 1 is a huge leap, but if you go from silver 1 to gold 5 the difference is negligible
Bronze player stuck in platinum
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-10 23:06:36
November 10 2013 23:05 GMT
#2554
gone from 0 to 66 lp in gold 1 since saturday morning, this is so stressful though >.>
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28102 Posts
November 10 2013 23:07 GMT
#2555
On November 11 2013 08:04 Amui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2013 07:59 TheEmulator wrote:
How is league progression in LoL anyways? Is it like super hard to get from league to league? Like let's say you just got to level 30 and started to play ranked, would it take forever to get diamond? Assuming that you're diamond material, obviously you won't get to diamond if you suck, lol


You can probably maintain 80+% winrate until you hit somewhere around mid plat, at which point it'll drop down to ~55-60%(Assuming D4 or so in skill). Some games you simply won't win(stuff like jungle tryn getting 4 kills by 5 minutes for example).

In terms of timeframe though. Like in sc2 back when I was high masters I leveled a smurf to masters in like 1-2 days, but it seems like LoL takes longer?
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-10 23:10:38
November 10 2013 23:08 GMT
#2556
On November 11 2013 08:05 Nos- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2013 07:59 TheEmulator wrote:
How is league progression in LoL anyways? Is it like super hard to get from league to league? Like let's say you just got to level 30 and started to play ranked, would it take forever to get diamond? Assuming that you're diamond material, obviously you won't get to diamond if you suck, lol

My general feeling on this is that from division 5 to division 1 is a huge leap, but if you go from silver 1 to gold 5 the difference is negligible

Depends on player. If my friend tries he can get any account to diamond 5 in around 1 to 2 weeks. He's low diamond 1 material. The part that takes the longest is plat 1 to diamond 5, pretty easy to get uncarryable games during promo series.

This is about accnts in like 900 elo range. Lol. Fresh account takes like 3 or 4 days.
liftlift > tsm
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28102 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-10 23:13:39
November 10 2013 23:12 GMT
#2557
Cool, thanks for the answers. Was just curious because I have friends that are taking months to get promoted and I was like they're either terribad and not improving or the system is tough.

@Wei - so you're saying a fresh account just hitting level 30 can hit diamond in 3-4 days?
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Duvon
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden2360 Posts
November 10 2013 23:14 GMT
#2558
On November 11 2013 07:39 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2013 07:16 TheRabidDeer wrote:
How good of practice is intermediate co-op vs bots? Do they play on like bronze level?


No. I don't even know if they have runes/masteries.

Like, COOP vs. AI can be won with lvl 1 all ins every game.

I've been playing a lot vs bots because I don't want to risk having to play multiple long games for the daily, and this is basically it.
Some bots carry really hard later in the game, so if you just feed them enough / only stay even in laning, you might get some actual mechanical practice later. They are often good at skillshots, but their movement suck. If you get mid lane, it can be decent practice at just crapping all over your opponent' experience, in a jungle-less scenario...
Nothing is impossible, only some things for some people.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-10 23:16:23
November 10 2013 23:14 GMT
#2559
Yea it jsut really depends on how good you really are. Pro players have routinely taken fresh accounts to diamond 1 in ~50 games.

Personally, going from silver to gold was really damn easy. When I started ranked way back in S1 I got to gold in like a day from silver. Getting out of gold took me a good amount of time in S2. Once I got to plat I moved up to plat 1~2 in a few days and been mostly stuck there, although I was playing against Diamond 4~5 players.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-10 23:18:42
November 10 2013 23:15 GMT
#2560
On November 11 2013 08:12 TheEmulator wrote:
Cool, thanks for the answers. Was just curious because I have friends that are taking months to get promoted and I was like they're either terribad and not improving or the system is tough.

Must mean they're where they should be.
Silver 3 took me a while to clear. Then I actually decided to play. Then was a breeze til gold 3. Still getting 20 lp per win, so my elo is higher than gold 3, which is cool to know. Also bonus pool is op'd in sc2, which probably helps progreaaion for those that don't play as often.

Assuming you win all placement matches, and you get through your series. It's all about early matches. If you get high base elo. You'll be earning 30 lp a match for each win. That means you're only spending around 5 matches per division movement. If you're playing all day, 3 or 4 days to diamond 5 should be pretty simple if you're diamond 1 level.
liftlift > tsm
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