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Zdrastochye
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
On November 09 2013 13:14 wei2coolman wrote: Just because ulti is game changing doesn't mean the champ is good. Exhibit A) amumu. He never argued that it was only her ultimate that is game changing? all of her skills right now in conjunction are completely ridiculous Or we can just assume for a minute that Dusty knows what he's talking about. | ||
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
On November 09 2013 13:18 FinestHour wrote: are people forgetting boomerang damage is like halved on pbe It was changed to total AD scaling, that's why. Intended purpose is to nerf early game, keep later game with a little buff to the aoe via reduced damage falloff. | ||
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
On November 09 2013 13:18 FinestHour wrote: are people forgetting boomerang damage is like halved on pbe are you not noticing that it scales from total attack damage, rather than bonus? | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On November 09 2013 13:28 phyvo wrote: It was changed to total AD scaling, that's why. Intended purpose is to nerf early game, keep later game with a little buff to the aoe via reduced damage falloff. Sounds like homogenization. Someone was commenting on how Sivir's boomerang is the highest single damage spell in the game and that's most apparent early game. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Although if Sivir was to build AP too I guess she could compete. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On November 09 2013 13:57 obesechicken13 wrote: Sounds like homogenization. Someone was commenting on how Sivir's boomerang is the highest single damage spell in the game and that's most apparent early game. Would have preferred nerf to missle speed than damage though. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
At low levels, there's the problem with reacting in time to a bunch of people charging into you, but that's really it-- countering that is just a matter of playing smart and having fast enough reactions. Ignoring the confusion from them coming in fast, its not that big of a deal. She doesn't give any other steroids to her team. Its just a team running at you. If you're behind, running in like that runs the gamut from risky, probably bad engage to plain suicide. On the other hand, it does let you run away which is a useful skill to have. Th only time to be scared of is when you're weaker, either because you are behind as a team or you have less people, ults down, whatever and you want to avoid the fight. Sivir prevents you from disengaging. That's what the biggest strength of her ult is. It's a huge counter/ deterrent to shenanigans like splitpushing and it can be pretty scary in lane with jungle ganks, but in a lot of teamfights I'd rather have an AD with some sort of ult that enhances their damage. I've played a couple games with Sivir on the enemy team and one on my team. I shut her down pretty hard with Leona in lane, and literally all her ult was good for was trying to run away after I flash E'd onto her in teamfights (spoiler: it didn't work). The other game we lost towers when Sivir ulted and engaged on us while our Zed was splitpushing, but when we grouped it was fine. | ||
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
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TheHumanSensation
Canada1210 Posts
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
I really feel that increased movespeed is only useful if you don't get locked down, so in a case where I was playing Leona and Nami, it wasn't that big of a deal. Far as drafting goes, I think Sivir is only good as a 4-5 pick, either to counter a splitpush team or to make sure she doesn't get countered really hard. | ||
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Dusty
United States3359 Posts
On November 09 2013 15:11 ticklishmusic wrote: I really feel that increased movespeed is only useful if you don't get locked down wow such insight are you going to tell us water is wet next? ._. | ||
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UnKooL
Korea (South)1667 Posts
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Cheap0
United States540 Posts
On November 09 2013 15:39 Dusty wrote: wow such insight are you going to tell us water is wet next? ._. Anything can sound derpy when you take it out of context. | ||
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Kinie
United States3106 Posts
On November 09 2013 15:40 UnKooL wrote: Syndra is rapidly becoming the standard mid champion in most of my solo q games. I'm going to try to pick her up and get on that fotm train, and you should too. There's nothing that stops her shes got annie like laning phase, burst like veigar, and stun like sona plus she has a slow spell does good damage too. All aboard! The reason why Syndra is fotm is that the assassins have been nerfed, so the "artillery" mages are picking up in popularity again. | ||
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
On November 09 2013 15:44 Kinie wrote: The reason why Syndra is fotm is that the assassins have been nerfed, so the "artillery" mages are picking up in popularity again. I think it might be because Bjerger King is pulling 70k viewers on Twitch regularly  | ||
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JazzVortical
Australia1825 Posts
On November 09 2013 15:44 Kinie wrote: The reason why Syndra is fotm is that the assassins have been nerfed, so the "artillery" mages are picking up in popularity again. Hope your good with skill shots! Actually if Syndra gets popular, Talon might see some play time. He's by far the best pick against her. | ||
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JonnyLaw
United States3482 Posts
On November 09 2013 15:54 JazzVortical wrote: Hope your good with skill shots! Actually if Syndra gets popular, Talon might see some play time. He's by far the best pick against her. Uhh fish and ahri do fine vs her. Forellenlord vs Czaru easiest example. Check 1:42ish for best outplay. The mobility can crush syndra. Forrellenlord clearly plays better (and might be a better player) but the outplay is still there. Fish not much different. *tim eedit. | ||
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KissBlade
United States5718 Posts
On November 09 2013 14:24 ticklishmusic wrote: I think Sivir's ult is being a little overrated here. Yes, its good. However, its only really good if you're ahead. At low levels, there's the problem with reacting in time to a bunch of people charging into you, but that's really it-- countering that is just a matter of playing smart and having fast enough reactions. Ignoring the confusion from them coming in fast, its not that big of a deal. She doesn't give any other steroids to her team. Its just a team running at you. If you're behind, running in like that runs the gamut from risky, probably bad engage to plain suicide. On the other hand, it does let you run away which is a useful skill to have. Probably should state that Dusty certainly doesn't play at what anyone outside of Asia considers "low level". | ||
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Ayush_SCtoss
India3050 Posts
All I know is that they are gone when summer split ends (I don't even know what that is). Don't know why they would do this, seems like a good decision to keep them there but for RP only. | ||
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JazzVortical
Australia1825 Posts
On November 09 2013 16:02 JonnyLaw wrote: Uhh fish and ahri do fine vs her. Forellenlord vs Czaru easiest example. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ji83XatvYMQ Check 1:42ish for best outplay. The mobility can crush syndra. Forrellenlord clearly plays better (and might be a better player) but the outplay is still there. Fish not much different. *tim eedit. Yes they do fine. Talon is still the best counter though. Syndra has the ability to go even with a lot of champs, including assassins. She is such a lane bully that you can get ahead early, and use that for when they power spike. This is especially true vs Fizz, who you can almost force to use mana to get every cs pre 6. Gets a lot more even after that. Ahri has an easier time, but again is at a disadvantage pre 6. | ||
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