• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 17:48
CEST 23:48
KST 06:48
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2914Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live!17Weekly Cups (July 13-19): Terran & Protoss rise; Zerg falters2Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16)86Reynor: GSL Loss Wasn't About Preparation Format16[IPSL] Spring 2026 Grand Finals - This Weekend!18
StarCraft 2
General
How would you feel about frequent/monthly balance patches for SC2? Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Clem: "I don't have that much hope in Blizzard" Weekly Cups (July 13-19): Terran & Protoss rise; Zerg falters [D] Wireframe Casting Removed
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) WardiTV Summer Cup 2026 GSL CK #5 Race War HomeStory Cup 29
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Industrial Park New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate
External Content
Mutation # 535 Assembly of Vengeance The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 534 Burning Evacuation Mutation # 533 Die Together
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Animated Gateway HORROR STARCRAFT MOVIE How Famous was FlaSh before his Debut?
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [IPSL] Spring 2026 Grand Finals - This Weekend! Escore Tournament - Season 3 Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers PvT advise for noobs Fighting Spirit mining rates Creating a full chart of Zerg builds
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile General RTS Discussion Thread Diablo IV ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live! ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread How to buy a book - shipping from Korea to Europe The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Series you have seen recently... Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 McBoner: A hockey love story
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
Northern Ireland Global Starcraft The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Hello guys!
LIN1s
Role of Gaming on Mental Hea…
TrAiDoS
ASL S22 English Commentary…
namkraft
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 3706 users

[Patch 3.12] (j/k) Jinx General Discussion - Page 92

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 90 91 92 93 94 383 Next
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
October 08 2013 00:56 GMT
#1821
So I built sightstone on some random junglers, and that extra vision is fucking powerful. I might start doing the sightstone on all junglers and just not going golem until much later if at all.
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
October 08 2013 00:59 GMT
#1822
I'm so excited to see Pobelter back in the LoL pro scene, he was one of the best amateurs out there for a long time.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 08 2013 01:03 GMT
#1823
On October 08 2013 09:59 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
I'm so excited to see Pobelter back in the LoL pro scene, he was one of the best amateurs out there for a long time.

I haven't seen him play in a long time, but I remember he was touted as one of the great NA talents.
If he's gotten better, he could be a real force to reckon with. I'm going to guess new shotcaller is probably going to be IWD, he was alright when he was on Dig imo, hopefully he's matured and isn't as much of a dick.
liftlift > tsm
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-08 01:05:42
October 08 2013 01:03 GMT
#1824
Thoughts on Crs overhaul: necessary and was going to happen. The original Crs lineup needed a dramatic overhaul after the increasingly lackluster performance. Was a radical enough overhaul.

Aphro being back in competitive is interesting. Use to have a lot of hype at the beginning of S3 until he kept choking In LANs. IWD never really impressed me but better than smitevicious I guess. Interesting to see pobelter in competitive again. And finally, while I think zekent is a helluva guy, his support play never stood out to me, jusf his solo janna/Kayle play.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
October 08 2013 01:04 GMT
#1825
Does anyone know how to lower MMR without actually playing games?
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
October 08 2013 01:05 GMT
#1826
On October 08 2013 10:04 schmutttt wrote:
Does anyone know how to lower MMR without actually playing games?

have your bad friend play?
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
October 08 2013 01:06 GMT
#1827
On October 08 2013 08:12 sob3k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2013 07:37 AsnSensation wrote:
On October 08 2013 07:28 sob3k wrote:
What quints do your recommend for a hybrid red page?


asking the same question again today without clarifying on which champion won't help.

Flat Ap on Ori/Fizz
AD/flat HP on supports.

can't think of anyone else using hybrid pen right now.


What about Jax? What on him? Kayle?

Jax should be running flat AD reds and not HyPen. Kayle.. I'm not sure, haven't done the math. Flat AD could work well on her too. (Q and E - all her damage - play nicely with AD.)
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
October 08 2013 01:06 GMT
#1828
Thread on Reddit about the number of champions played at worlds, skimmed he first ~100 posts, no mention of draft format.

zz
Carrilord has arrived.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 08 2013 01:08 GMT
#1829
On October 08 2013 10:06 Slusher wrote:
Thread on Reddit about the number of champions played at worlds, skimmed he first ~100 posts, no mention of draft format.

zz

Expecting intelligent discussion on Reddit...
liftlift > tsm
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
October 08 2013 01:13 GMT
#1830
It isn't meant to be a Reddit bitch so much as a concern that Riot will take this as confirmation that the current draft format isn't problematic.
Carrilord has arrived.
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
October 08 2013 01:20 GMT
#1831
On October 08 2013 10:03 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Thoughts on Crs overhaul: necessary and was going to happen. The original Crs lineup needed a dramatic overhaul after the increasingly lackluster performance. Was a radical enough overhaul.

Aphro being back in competitive is interesting. Use to have a lot of hype at the beginning of S3 until he kept choking In LANs. IWD never really impressed me but better than smitevicious I guess. Interesting to see pobelter in competitive again. And finally, while I think zekent is a helluva guy, his support play never stood out to me, jusf his solo janna/Kayle play.


As long as he doesn't lose the smite war a huge majority of the time then he'll be a big improvement
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-08 01:26:38
October 08 2013 01:23 GMT
#1832
On October 08 2013 10:20 Disengaged wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2013 10:03 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Thoughts on Crs overhaul: necessary and was going to happen. The original Crs lineup needed a dramatic overhaul after the increasingly lackluster performance. Was a radical enough overhaul.

Aphro being back in competitive is interesting. Use to have a lot of hype at the beginning of S3 until he kept choking In LANs. IWD never really impressed me but better than smitevicious I guess. Interesting to see pobelter in competitive again. And finally, while I think zekent is a helluva guy, his support play never stood out to me, jusf his solo janna/Kayle play.


As long as he doesn't lose the smite war a huge majority of the time then he'll be a big improvement

or doesn't walk up to take free damage, then walk back, and then try and engage again.

watching aphro's stream. i feel bad for whatever ranked 5 teams go against them, they're just stomping through right now. lol.
liftlift > tsm
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
October 08 2013 01:27 GMT
#1833
On October 08 2013 10:06 sylverfyre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2013 08:12 sob3k wrote:
On October 08 2013 07:37 AsnSensation wrote:
On October 08 2013 07:28 sob3k wrote:
What quints do your recommend for a hybrid red page?


asking the same question again today without clarifying on which champion won't help.

Flat Ap on Ori/Fizz
AD/flat HP on supports.

can't think of anyone else using hybrid pen right now.


What about Jax? What on him? Kayle?

Jax should be running flat AD reds and not HyPen. Kayle.. I'm not sure, haven't done the math. Flat AD could work well on her too. (Q and E - all her damage - play nicely with AD.)


Why flat AD? He does so much magic damage....
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
October 08 2013 01:29 GMT
#1834
i think the proliferation of split pushing does limit champ select quite a bit, because it puts such a heavy emphasis on strong 1v1 duelers. you see shen, renek and jax on top lane almost exclusively in the most advanced korean meta, and heavy disengage, mobility guys are favored for the 4 in the 4-1. team fight comps are generally not preferred even though they offer more variety in terms of hero composition.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
October 08 2013 01:30 GMT
#1835
On October 08 2013 10:20 Disengaged wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2013 10:03 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Thoughts on Crs overhaul: necessary and was going to happen. The original Crs lineup needed a dramatic overhaul after the increasingly lackluster performance. Was a radical enough overhaul.

Aphro being back in competitive is interesting. Use to have a lot of hype at the beginning of S3 until he kept choking In LANs. IWD never really impressed me but better than smitevicious I guess. Interesting to see pobelter in competitive again. And finally, while I think zekent is a helluva guy, his support play never stood out to me, jusf his solo janna/Kayle play.


As long as he doesn't lose the smite war a huge majority of the time then he'll be a big improvement

I mean, I may have been biased about his Dig performance because he was the Jatt replacement, and Dig putting him in the jungle over Crumbzz (and sticking him in a role he didn't have experience with instead of just finding a dedicated top laner) was a pretty suboptimal move.

The fact he actually smites is an improvement, but overall, he doesn't stand out (which he doesn't need to, if Crs is to become the VoyBeltMoo show like I think they're going for).
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
TheRabidDeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States3806 Posts
October 08 2013 01:37 GMT
#1836
Why is it that every game I go against Master Yi he wrecks the team so hard? Remember, like level 20 players.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
October 08 2013 01:39 GMT
#1837
On October 08 2013 10:37 TheRabidDeer wrote:
Why is it that every game I go against Master Yi he wrecks the team so hard? Remember, like level 20 players.


because hes really strong vs bad players. hes got an auto attack kit so you cant possibly play him wrong, and to effectively stop him you need either control or team focus, which low level players dont have. in that sense hes imba because he puts the burden of skill on to the other team.
TheRabidDeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States3806 Posts
October 08 2013 01:41 GMT
#1838
On October 08 2013 10:39 turdburgler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2013 10:37 TheRabidDeer wrote:
Why is it that every game I go against Master Yi he wrecks the team so hard? Remember, like level 20 players.


because hes really strong vs bad players. hes got an auto attack kit so you cant possibly play him wrong, and to effectively stop him you need either control or team focus, which low level players dont have. in that sense hes imba because he puts the burden of skill on to the other team.

So frustrating seeing him take out 3 people solo because he got fed. Last game he was 22-0-3 by 19 minutes. I got frustrated enough that I bought him to try and play him myself.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
October 08 2013 01:45 GMT
#1839
Master Yi is a pubstomping hero that works well in the aforementioned low-level environment. When teams get better coordination, he falls off because good team focus and CCing blows him up (when not in an ARAM: there he is God Tier along with Sona, provided he has decent team support).
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14161 Posts
October 08 2013 01:45 GMT
#1840
OH god it feels so good to be back now.

Omg zyra support so good where have you been all my life.

SKT1 Manifest fucking destiny. Picked the winners of worlds 2 years in a row now.

The shitposting returneth
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Prev 1 90 91 92 93 94 383 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2h 13m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ByuN 597
ViBE103
ZombieGrub82
SpeCial 46
League of Legends
Doublelift2716
Counter-Strike
summit1g6052
Coldzera 1185
minikerr17
Other Games
tarik_tv10879
Grubby2789
Mlord430
shahzam379
UpATreeSC212
ToD196
Liquid`Hasu195
JuggernautJason132
XaKoH 97
Livibee86
Trikslyr39
ROOTCatZ0
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 62
• musti20045 31
• RyuSc2 30
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 15
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota2692
League of Legends
• TFBlade977
Other Games
• imaqtpie795
• Shiphtur430
Upcoming Events
OSC
2h 13m
CrankTV Team League
13h 13m
Replay Cast
1d 2h
CrankTV Team League
1d 13h
Big Brain Bouts
1d 18h
Soulspirit vs goblin
TriGGeR vs Bunny
Korean StarCraft League
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
Serral vs SHIN
herO vs Solar
Online Event
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
3 days
Clem vs ByuN
Rogue vs Lambo
OSC
3 days
WardiTV Weekly
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
PiGosaur Cup
6 days
The PondCast
6 days
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
Patches Events
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-07-21
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E3

Ongoing

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
Proleague 2026-07-22
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
SCTL 2026 Spring
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W4
ASL S22 SEASON OPEN Day 2
Escore Tournament S3: W5
ASL Season 22: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 22: Qualifier #2
CSLAN 4
ASL Season 22
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.