[Patch 3.12] (j/k) Jinx General Discussion - Page 266
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Sufficiency
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
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On October 21 2013 03:26 UniversalSnip wrote: Nami is an instant reroll for me. Supports with bad scaling are so worthless late on that map, she just does nothing compared to some random other pick. Personally I think Nami is one of the top 10 champs on ARAM because it's one huge teamfight and Nami crushes teamfights. I'm not really sure how you are misplaying her if you think that she is bad. On October 21 2013 03:47 wei2coolman wrote: Even if they kept their ratios I don't think it would be that great in s3. Adc nerfs, and accelerated gameplay would severely cripple this strat, maybe could work on vayne or corki due to strong single item timings. It wasn't her ratios getting nerfed, it was the entire rework on her kit. E used to be self-targetable for free mana and W used to be on a massively shorter cooldown and cost less but give no armor buff. Soraka mid would still be extremely viable because of her silence nuke and itemless sustain that scales. Oh and you're also forgetting that AP Soraka was played in mid lane, not from support. That's probably why you don't think it's strong? | ||
Sufficiency
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cLutZ
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Alaric
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Because they ran Kog'Maw they had a super-scaling with high damage AD carry that meant the enemy team had to do something about him in teamfights, but there was a shitton of peeling and trying to ignore Mundo meant that the heals and shields could go to Kog instead, making him really hard to take down. The comp lacked clear and poke, but between Kog's range, Mundo's tankiness and the shields/heals they could walk up to the tower, tank some shots while Kog whittled it down, rinse and repeat till it's down. | ||
wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On October 21 2013 04:50 Sufficiency wrote: BTW bad scaling does not imply bad on ARAM. See Alistar. Alistar scales with defensive items really hard, if you get alistar againsy moatly AP team, sv is op'd opening item on him. Also triforce burst on him is wack as fuck. | ||
Sufficiency
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On October 21 2013 05:13 wei2coolman wrote: Alistar scales with defensive items really hard, if you get alistar againsy moatly AP team, sv is op'd opening item on him. Also triforce burst on him is wack as fuck. Triforce burst on alistar is wack as fuck is like saying Triforce on Karthus is wack as fuck. Alistar is strong because his E is broken in ARAM. | ||
Lord Tolkien
United States12083 Posts
On October 21 2013 05:11 Alaric wrote: Dignitas used either Janna or Taric when they ran the comp. Their jungle was also Mundo because pretty autonomous, lightning-fast clear and once he got his SV+HP item (sunfire, randuin's or warmogs, can't remember) he could initiate by simply walking into the whole enemy team and between Soraka mid, Lulu top, and Taric/Janna support he'd have the survivability to hold the frontline alone. Because they ran Kog'Maw as the AD carry they had a super-scaling with high damage AD carry that meant the enemy team had to do something about him in teamfights, but their was a shitton of peeling and trying to ignore Mundo meant that the heals and shields could go to Kog instead, making him really hard to take down. The comp lacked clear and poke, but between Kog's range, Mundo's tankiness and the shields/heals they could walk up to the tower, tank some shots while Kog whittled it down, rinse and repeat till it's down. That, and Mundo's base magic damage is pretty damn high (scaling/pen is the issue for Mundo) as is Kog's, which meant their teamfight grew increasingly stronger as their teamwide DPS scaled tremendously as the teamfights grew longer. Could've worked with any jungler with high base magic damage/survivability (Shyvana for instance). It was genius: pity Riot nerfed it into the ground. | ||
dae
Canada1600 Posts
On October 21 2013 03:30 BlackPaladin wrote: How does a nid kill a kennen pre-6. (qtpie's stream) Like....what...? Hit spears. Then when hes low he plays stupidly and gets hit and dies. | ||
Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On October 21 2013 05:15 Sufficiency wrote: Triforce burst on alistar is wack as fuck is like saying Triforce on Karthus is wack as fuck. Alistar is strong because his E is broken in ARAM. AP alistar is the only way to play aram alistar. | ||
UniversalSnip
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On October 21 2013 04:45 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: Personally I think Nami is one of the top 10 champs on ARAM because it's one huge teamfight and Nami crushes teamfights. I'm not really sure how you are misplaying her if you think that she is bad. that's SR speaking. Compared to some other dude with items, no, she does not wreck teamfights, lol. If supports with items were as strong in teamfights as other heroes with items you'd just run supports all the time. | ||
Nos-
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On October 21 2013 05:25 Fusilero wrote: AP alistar is the only way to play aram alistar. this guy gets it | ||
sylverfyre
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Sufficiency
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Alaric
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On October 21 2013 05:32 UniversalSnip wrote: that's SR speaking. Compared to some other dude with items, no, she does not wreck teamfights, lol. If supports with items were as strong in teamfights as other heroes with items you'd just run supports all the time. You don't pick supports as champions not scaling with farm, you pick supports as champions with strong base utility (potentially a bit level-dependant, though) regardless of how well they scale off of farm. | ||
UniversalSnip
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On October 21 2013 05:52 Alaric wrote: You don't pick supports as champions not scaling with farm, you pick supports as champions with strong base utility (potentially a bit level-dependant, though) regardless of how well they scale off of farm. the ones that do scale get nerfed until they're no longer supports or no longer scale, so at this point they're basically equivalent | ||
nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On October 21 2013 05:41 Sufficiency wrote: Quick question: do I max Q or W first on Jinx? w | ||
Sufficiency
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thx! | ||
Alaric
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On October 21 2013 05:54 UniversalSnip wrote: the ones that do scale get nerfed until they're no longer supports or no longer scale, so at this point they're basically equivalent Fuck 'em, support Fiddle never dying! | ||
FinestHour
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On October 21 2013 04:42 Sufficiency wrote: Didn't know you could jump Gold V -> III. Go me. I guess. ur mmr really high/good then | ||
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