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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 18 2013 15:38 GMT
#4981
On October 19 2013 00:37 Nos- wrote:
There's been instances of skillshots going through people as well, at least from personal experience.


KissBlade too
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Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
October 18 2013 15:47 GMT
#4982
I mean having them go through people at least requires me to actually hit said skillshot in the right direction (ilu kiss)
Bronze player stuck in platinum
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 18 2013 15:52 GMT
#4983
But yes, I too have been having skillshots randomly phasing through. It's really apparent especially when I'm playing Liss. Sometimes I'll throw out an EQ to clear a wave, and some minions just don't get hit by them.
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Esoterikk
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1256 Posts
October 18 2013 15:59 GMT
#4984
Have they made any indication they plan to remodel turrets/inhibs/nexus? I've always found it strange they did such a good job with the map remodel and left these things looking like preschool toys, I cringe every time I push.
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4120 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-18 16:18:37
October 18 2013 16:17 GMT
#4985
Hey guys isnt there a rebroadcast for wcg kr games ? The ogn stream seems offline and i cant look in the thread because i dont want to be spoiled >_<
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
October 18 2013 16:20 GMT
#4986
On October 19 2013 01:17 RouaF wrote:
Hey guys isnt there a rebroadcast for wcg kr games ? The ogn stream seems offline and i cant look in the thread because i dont want to be spoiled >_<


Wow, I came here to say exactly this. I'm also waiting for the broadcast to start and don't know what's going on
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 18 2013 16:23 GMT
#4987
On October 19 2013 00:52 jcarlsoniv wrote:
But yes, I too have been having skillshots randomly phasing through. It's really apparent especially when I'm playing Liss. Sometimes I'll throw out an EQ to clear a wave, and some minions just don't get hit by them.

This was a rampant problem for a while earlier in the season if I remember correctly, but it seemed as though eventually by mid-season all of the edge cases were fixed and people weren't complaining about it anymore.

It's kind of annoying that it appears to have showed up again.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
October 18 2013 16:32 GMT
#4988
ive had a thresh hook go straight through at least one person, but for me at least its a very rare thing for me to be sure of a hit that didnt connect.
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4120 Posts
October 18 2013 16:33 GMT
#4989
So no rebroadcast + paywall vods for wcg kr finals ? Wtf ~_~
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-18 16:41:12
October 18 2013 16:38 GMT
#4990
I think maybe some of the skillshots traveling through people can be attributed to lag or client side mismatches with the server. There might be a setting that helps with this.

Other than that, there is also an issue with warding. Sometimes you see people clearly place their cursor over a brush to ward it and the ward will not be in the brush. The issue comes from the view angle. I suspect Riot's algorithm for calculating how to display your cursor from an isometric angle are not accurate. When you watch the replay and change the view angle, then suddenly you can clearly see that your cursor wasn't in the brush.Similarly, if you scroll so that your champion and the brush are barely in the screen, you will see the cursor is clearly not in the brush. Additionally you can better see flash ranges and stuff. One way to get around the brush bug is to check the color of your cursor when you're hovering over brush with a dumbcasted ward I think.

On October 19 2013 01:33 RouaF wrote:
So no rebroadcast + paywall vods for wcg kr finals ? Wtf ~_~

I know... I wanted to see jungle Leona ;_;
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
October 18 2013 16:41 GMT
#4991
Jungle leona sucked anyways
Bronze player stuck in platinum
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
October 18 2013 16:48 GMT
#4992
On October 19 2013 01:33 RouaF wrote:
So no rebroadcast + paywall vods for wcg kr finals ? Wtf ~_~


Oh man. Well screw it, might aswell just look up the result then...
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 18 2013 16:52 GMT
#4993
From the recent Blizzard Allstars/Heroes fo the Storm thingy thread:
On October 19 2013 01:18 Thieving Magpie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2013 01:14 Greendotz wrote:
On October 18 2013 22:31 Serinox wrote:
I'd say it will probably exceed HoN in popularity. But Dota 2 and LoL? We'll see. Still a bit sceptical tbh.


I'm a bit ignorant when it comes to this but is HoN still relevant? I notice it still has the steady views to constantly make the front page on Twitch but still when I hear HoN I just think of a small bunch of dedicated diehard fans who stick with it mainly out of nostalgia. To say a Blizzard game will do better than HoN doesn't really say much. LoL and Dota2? I don't know, they've got the kind of fanbase that'll get anything with a Blizzard logo slapped on it (myself included) but those two games are very established in the scene (especially LoL). Guess will have to see.


HoN has the hardest UI
LoL has the most forgiving UI

So LoL got big, while HoN did not except for die hards who know that if HoN players switched over 300 of them will take over the LoL scene.


It shocks me that people still genuinely believe this.
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
October 18 2013 16:52 GMT
#4994
The Leona game happened a few days ago, why would they rebroadcast?
Freeeeeeedom
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
October 18 2013 16:55 GMT
#4995
On October 19 2013 01:52 WaveofShadow wrote:
From the recent Blizzard Allstars/Heroes fo the Storm thingy thread:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2013 01:18 Thieving Magpie wrote:
On October 19 2013 01:14 Greendotz wrote:
On October 18 2013 22:31 Serinox wrote:
I'd say it will probably exceed HoN in popularity. But Dota 2 and LoL? We'll see. Still a bit sceptical tbh.


I'm a bit ignorant when it comes to this but is HoN still relevant? I notice it still has the steady views to constantly make the front page on Twitch but still when I hear HoN I just think of a small bunch of dedicated diehard fans who stick with it mainly out of nostalgia. To say a Blizzard game will do better than HoN doesn't really say much. LoL and Dota2? I don't know, they've got the kind of fanbase that'll get anything with a Blizzard logo slapped on it (myself included) but those two games are very established in the scene (especially LoL). Guess will have to see.


HoN has the hardest UI
LoL has the most forgiving UI

So LoL got big, while HoN did not except for die hards who know that if HoN players switched over 300 of them will take over the LoL scene.


It shocks me that people still genuinely believe this.

JUST LIKE THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM!!11!!
Glorious SEA doto
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-18 17:05:27
October 18 2013 16:59 GMT
#4996
On October 19 2013 01:55 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2013 01:52 WaveofShadow wrote:
From the recent Blizzard Allstars/Heroes fo the Storm thingy thread:
On October 19 2013 01:18 Thieving Magpie wrote:
On October 19 2013 01:14 Greendotz wrote:
On October 18 2013 22:31 Serinox wrote:
I'd say it will probably exceed HoN in popularity. But Dota 2 and LoL? We'll see. Still a bit sceptical tbh.


I'm a bit ignorant when it comes to this but is HoN still relevant? I notice it still has the steady views to constantly make the front page on Twitch but still when I hear HoN I just think of a small bunch of dedicated diehard fans who stick with it mainly out of nostalgia. To say a Blizzard game will do better than HoN doesn't really say much. LoL and Dota2? I don't know, they've got the kind of fanbase that'll get anything with a Blizzard logo slapped on it (myself included) but those two games are very established in the scene (especially LoL). Guess will have to see.


HoN has the hardest UI
LoL has the most forgiving UI

So LoL got big, while HoN did not except for die hards who know that if HoN players switched over 300 of them will take over the LoL scene.


It shocks me that people still genuinely believe this.

JUST LIKE THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM!!11!!


Haha yeah. Well the elephant had somewhat of a point, because the competition in BW was simply much more fierce than it was in SC2, before the KeSPA switch at least without a doubt (which was regardless of one game being easier or not, it was just the level of competition by itself). However nobody today can really argue that the HoN scene was/is more competitive than today's KeSPA LoL scene and its infrastructure. It's like the reverse of the elephant in the room.

Regardless, the major assumption most people seem to get wrong is that a skill from one game can directly be transferred to another, no matter how similar the games may look on the surface, which was kind of what we saw with the BW to SC2 transition. I fondly remember comments of Artosis that Flash had more skill in one finger than every Quake pro ever combined. There seems to be this idea of an overarching "skill" that one can have, instead of being skillful in different things. Which I personally don't really agree with.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
October 18 2013 17:02 GMT
#4997
Vertical sync from my post above:
https://www.google.ca/search?q=vertical sync&oq=vertical sync&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.1883j0j7&sourceid=chrome&espv=210&es_sm=122&ie=UTF-8#es_sm=122&espv=210&q=vertical sync lol

I can't find the article on the ward placement bug. It's different from the ward line of sight bug.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
October 18 2013 17:05 GMT
#4998
On October 19 2013 01:52 WaveofShadow wrote:
From the recent Blizzard Allstars/Heroes fo the Storm thingy thread:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2013 01:18 Thieving Magpie wrote:
On October 19 2013 01:14 Greendotz wrote:
On October 18 2013 22:31 Serinox wrote:
I'd say it will probably exceed HoN in popularity. But Dota 2 and LoL? We'll see. Still a bit sceptical tbh.


I'm a bit ignorant when it comes to this but is HoN still relevant? I notice it still has the steady views to constantly make the front page on Twitch but still when I hear HoN I just think of a small bunch of dedicated diehard fans who stick with it mainly out of nostalgia. To say a Blizzard game will do better than HoN doesn't really say much. LoL and Dota2? I don't know, they've got the kind of fanbase that'll get anything with a Blizzard logo slapped on it (myself included) but those two games are very established in the scene (especially LoL). Guess will have to see.


HoN has the hardest UI
LoL has the most forgiving UI

So LoL got big, while HoN did not except for die hards who know that if HoN players switched over 300 of them will take over the LoL scene.


It shocks me that people still genuinely believe this.

that has to be a troll. hon interface was pretty smooth and easy to last hit etc.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 18 2013 17:08 GMT
#4999
On October 19 2013 01:52 WaveofShadow wrote:
From the recent Blizzard Allstars/Heroes fo the Storm thingy thread:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2013 01:18 Thieving Magpie wrote:
On October 19 2013 01:14 Greendotz wrote:
On October 18 2013 22:31 Serinox wrote:
I'd say it will probably exceed HoN in popularity. But Dota 2 and LoL? We'll see. Still a bit sceptical tbh.


I'm a bit ignorant when it comes to this but is HoN still relevant? I notice it still has the steady views to constantly make the front page on Twitch but still when I hear HoN I just think of a small bunch of dedicated diehard fans who stick with it mainly out of nostalgia. To say a Blizzard game will do better than HoN doesn't really say much. LoL and Dota2? I don't know, they've got the kind of fanbase that'll get anything with a Blizzard logo slapped on it (myself included) but those two games are very established in the scene (especially LoL). Guess will have to see.


HoN has the hardest UI
LoL has the most forgiving UI

So LoL got big, while HoN did not except for die hards who know that if HoN players switched over 300 of them will take over the LoL scene.


It shocks me that people still genuinely believe this.

Amusingly HoN's UI is probably the best learning point for the 2 currently more popular MOBAs, as from my experience it was the most flexible and most customizable.

I think S2 did a pretty good job with HoN on everything that wasn't the game itself, lol.
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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
October 18 2013 17:10 GMT
#5000
Imo HoN started off pretty good and had the potential to be where dota 2 is, then S2 did a neverending string of retarded things to kill it.
Glorious SEA doto
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