EPT[Patch 3.12] (j/k) Jinx General Discussion - Page 159
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ProV1
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Ethelis
United States2400 Posts
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Sermokala
United States14211 Posts
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Zdrastochye
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
On October 12 2013 04:26 Ethelis wrote: Oh my god i played Lucian on a normal with a friend's account yesterday and he feels 1000x better. I personally found him unplayable before with the ridiculous double mana cost bug (and the mana buffs helped too). Anybody think he's worth picking up? As in not Sivir tier. Yeah I'd put him a solid spot over Urgot and Sivir. And that's where he stands (with me). | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
For example, at the narrowest part of the bridge, Lux's E almost covers half of the width of the bridge. At the wider parts of it, its more like 1/3rd. By my rough estimate, at the narrowest point of the bridge, if you perfectly space Nidalee spears, and throw them up/down the bridge length, you can fit about 8 of them. And if you evenly spaced 5 champions at the narrowest part of the bridge, there's almost no dead space. So if everyone is in the same plane at the narrowest part of the bridge, Lux E hits 3 of them, and Nidalee's spear is practically a guaranteed hit (if there are no minions) So if there's a champion with a long range skillshot like Jayce, Lux, or Nidalee, there's so little horizontal space to dodge, that more often than not someone is probably going to get hit even if they're just blindly throwing stuff. I don't feel like the dynamics of the mode would change much, other than poke champions wouldn't be so oppressive. Also, Galio's ult is about 2/3rds the width of the bridge at the narrowest part of it. Dat is one big ult considering its a taunt on everyone... | ||
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Zdrastochye
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
On October 12 2013 04:33 JimmiC wrote: what the hell, he can't switch spots or throw a boomerangish thingy, a three year old can shoot a gun. urgot and sivir are far more chic. Which matters... it does... He can switch spots. Click on the ground, close your eyes, and in a couple seconds if you open them he's at a new location. | ||
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Zess
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
On October 12 2013 04:24 ProV1 wrote: Wait wtf, marineking prime is quantic prime? What's that supposed to mean. He's part of quantic? He's playing in na duoing with imaqtpie? Quantic Prime is the player Prime who used to be on MiG Blitz and then went on the NA LCS-challenger team Quantic MarineKingPrime is the SC/2 player MarineKing on team Prime who used to be Clare for MBCGame Hero (rip). He will likely be joining one of the Prime LoL teams either Prime.Optimus or Prime.Sentinel | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On October 12 2013 04:33 JimmiC wrote: what the hell, he can't switch spots or throw a boomerangish thingy, a three year old can shoot a gun. urgot and sivir are far more chic. Which matters... it does... Hey at least they've been used in large-scale tournaments at some point. Which actually makes me think: which champions have NEVER been used at all in the proscene? Poppy? Was WW ever used (like S1 I forget)? | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On October 12 2013 04:36 WaveofShadow wrote: Hey at least they've been used in large-scale tournaments at some point. Which actually makes me think: which champions have NEVER been used at all in the proscene? Poppy? Was WW ever used (like S1 I forget)? I remember soaz using WW at dreamhack and angush was apparently like best WW EU. Also never 5get, based smiteless Armageddon jungle WW. | ||
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Ethelis
United States2400 Posts
On October 12 2013 04:29 Zdrastochye wrote: Yeah I'd put him a solid spot over Urgot and Sivir. And that's where he stands (with me). Zdrat crushing my excitement  | ||
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Zdrastochye
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
I'm just not sure what he does that other adcs don't do better. If I'm missing a reason that he's unarguably better than a champion at something that you'd like from an adc I'll gladly rescind my view of him. | ||
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
On October 12 2013 04:36 WaveofShadow wrote: Hey at least they've been used in large-scale tournaments at some point. Which actually makes me think: which champions have NEVER been used at all in the proscene? Poppy? Was WW ever used (like S1 I forget)? Thought DL used Poppy in a pro game once | ||
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Ethelis
United States2400 Posts
On October 12 2013 04:41 Zdrastochye wrote: I'm just not sure what he does that other adcs don't do better. If I'm missing a reason that he's unarguably better than a champion at something that you'd like from an adc I'll gladly rescind my view of him. Naw i agree with that, at least at a glance i haven't played him a ton. I think if he could cast his W on the move and MAYBE his Q he'd be stupidly good at fighting on the move. | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On October 12 2013 04:36 WaveofShadow wrote: Hey at least they've been used in large-scale tournaments at some point. Which actually makes me think: which champions have NEVER been used at all in the proscene? Poppy? Was WW ever used (like S1 I forget)? I think every champion has been used at least once in a pro game at some point in League's history. Except Quinn. | ||
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red_
United States8474 Posts
On October 12 2013 04:34 zer0das wrote: So I play a lot of ARAM and one thing that I always wonder- why don't they widen the bridge out so there's more horizontal space to dodge skillshots (like maybe add 1/4th the current bridge's width to each side)? I feel like one of the reasons poke champions are so obnoxious is that there's not enough horizontal space. If you have 5 champions lined up in a row with equal spacing, and you just blindly chuck a skill shot, the odds that you hit one of them are pretty high. For example, at the narrowest part of the bridge, Lux's E almost covers half of the width of the bridge. At the wider parts of it, its more like 1/3rd. By my rough estimate, at the narrowest point of the bridge, if you perfectly space Nidalee spears, and throw them up/down the bridge length, you can fit about 8 of them. And if you evenly spaced 5 champions at the narrowest part of the bridge, there's almost no dead space. So if everyone is in the same plane at the narrowest part of the bridge, Lux E hits 3 of them, and Nidalee's spear is practically a guaranteed hit (if there are no minions) So if there's a champion with a long range skillshot like Jayce, Lux, or Nidalee, there's so little horizontal space to dodge, that more often than not someone is probably going to get hit even if they're just blindly throwing stuff. I don't feel like the dynamics of the mode would change much, other than poke champions wouldn't be so oppressive. Also, Galio's ult is about 2/3rds the width of the bridge at the narrowest part of it. Dat is one big ult considering its a taunt on everyone... Surprised at the lack of Zyra ult mentioned in this post, I'm pretty sure I chuckle every time I see it on Howling Abyss. | ||
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
On October 12 2013 03:09 Requizen wrote: ADs don't have the same range... Vayne is very much so outranged by Ashe, Cait, and Varus baseline; Trist once she reaches level 2 and then more from then on; and Kog, Twitch, and Jinx with their actives up. I'm pretty sure "Baseline AD range" would not take into account actives up.... >_> Generally the baseline for AD carries is around 550. Some are higher because of their kits (cait (sniper), ashe (no escape), varus (no escape)), while others have actives to modify their smaller than normal/normal range (twitch at 525 ulting to gain a huge range boost, kog at 500, activating w for a large range boost) Trist is actually a unique case in that she has a normal attack range at 550, but as she levels up her attack range becomes the highest base in the game without needing to activate anything. On October 12 2013 04:48 red_ wrote: Surprised at the lack of Zyra ult mentioned in this post, I'm pretty sure I chuckle every time I see it on Howling Abyss. I've legit missed a zyra ult on howling abyss. Granted I don't even own her. Granted it was my first game ever as her and I had no real idea how it worked. Get on my level. | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On October 12 2013 04:47 Ryuu314 wrote: I think every champion has been used at least once in a pro game at some point in League's history. Except Quinn. Spontexx picked quinn while subbing in for gambit. Why do I have a feeling I've gone full Romanian. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
On October 12 2013 04:47 Ryuu314 wrote: I think every champion has been used at least once in a pro game at some point in League's history. Except Quinn. Quinn was played by Mancloud vs. CRS in the spring split, got rolled though (it was before her buffs) | ||
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