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[PSA]: Challenging the status quo...
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
September 03 2013 17:42 GMT
#3061
On September 04 2013 01:30 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2013 22:27 Aezo- wrote:
It's funny how my best role can change so quickly. I flew from Silver IV to Silver III playing jungle all day. Then all of a sudden i started losing all the time, so I switched to playing more support + adc and started winning again. And it's more not the winning / losing but I feel like I'm playing better or making less stupid mistakes.

Tried a couple jungle games last night and I fed so hard again. Not sure what changed. Oh well time to go watch Meteos and try to learn...


i'm the exact same, jungle is my main and the role i "get" the best, but I've just been playing Kat and facerolling mid instead

Most of the time, it's just that you're too reckless with your comfort picks, and tend to do less stupid shit with characters you don't know that much. If you're a Lee main, you'll go for the flashy moves every time. Then you play a normal laner you don't play much, you just play safe and you win, because overall you have a more positive impact on the game.
The legend of Darien lives on
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35161 Posts
September 03 2013 18:01 GMT
#3062
On September 04 2013 00:23 Chexx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2013 23:56 Gahlo wrote:
On September 03 2013 23:33 jcarlsoniv wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
PLAYMAT

Where and how. Now.

According to Reddit, sourcing this OGN finals drew 700k viewers online and 1.2% of TV.

or you could just look TL up where the news is already posted

Or you could not be a dick and just point me to where it is posted.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
September 03 2013 18:04 GMT
#3063
On September 04 2013 02:42 mr_tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2013 01:30 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
On September 03 2013 22:27 Aezo- wrote:
It's funny how my best role can change so quickly. I flew from Silver IV to Silver III playing jungle all day. Then all of a sudden i started losing all the time, so I switched to playing more support + adc and started winning again. And it's more not the winning / losing but I feel like I'm playing better or making less stupid mistakes.

Tried a couple jungle games last night and I fed so hard again. Not sure what changed. Oh well time to go watch Meteos and try to learn...


i'm the exact same, jungle is my main and the role i "get" the best, but I've just been playing Kat and facerolling mid instead

Most of the time, it's just that you're too reckless with your comfort picks, and tend to do less stupid shit with characters you don't know that much. If you're a Lee main, you'll go for the flashy moves every time. Then you play a normal laner you don't play much, you just play safe and you win, because overall you have a more positive impact on the game.

Personally when I played passive and just outfarmed opponents I won A LOT less.Being overagressive seems better in yoloq.
5miley
Profile Joined January 2010
United States64 Posts
September 03 2013 18:36 GMT
#3064
Seriously how do I deal with vlad when playing zed. After his first back it seems I start loosing trades hard, and if I ever try to ult him he pools. I have tried just pushing him out and roaming, but he clears waves pretty fast and chunks me down. It's worse than playing against kayle, at least your harass is meaningful against her.
lol in the pants
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-03 18:37:35
September 03 2013 18:36 GMT
#3065
Purple Blade build
Doran Blade -> Blade of the Ruined King -> Youmuu's Ghostblade

win top lane every game.

works best on Master Yi, Aatrox, Nasus, Nautilus
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
September 03 2013 18:47 GMT
#3066
On September 04 2013 03:36 5miley wrote:
Seriously how do I deal with vlad when playing zed. After his first back it seems I start loosing trades hard, and if I ever try to ult him he pools. I have tried just pushing him out and roaming, but he clears waves pretty fast and chunks me down. It's worse than playing against kayle, at least your harass is meaningful against her.


Why are you trying to trade with a zed that early. Surely you should be just surviving until your sustain kicks in later on instead of going on the offensive so early.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
September 03 2013 18:48 GMT
#3067
No, he's playing the Zed, and he doesn't know how to handle Vlad.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
September 03 2013 18:49 GMT
#3068
Ok I'm an idiot ignore me
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
September 03 2013 19:08 GMT
#3069
On September 04 2013 03:04 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2013 02:42 mr_tolkien wrote:
On September 04 2013 01:30 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
On September 03 2013 22:27 Aezo- wrote:
It's funny how my best role can change so quickly. I flew from Silver IV to Silver III playing jungle all day. Then all of a sudden i started losing all the time, so I switched to playing more support + adc and started winning again. And it's more not the winning / losing but I feel like I'm playing better or making less stupid mistakes.

Tried a couple jungle games last night and I fed so hard again. Not sure what changed. Oh well time to go watch Meteos and try to learn...


i'm the exact same, jungle is my main and the role i "get" the best, but I've just been playing Kat and facerolling mid instead

Most of the time, it's just that you're too reckless with your comfort picks, and tend to do less stupid shit with characters you don't know that much. If you're a Lee main, you'll go for the flashy moves every time. Then you play a normal laner you don't play much, you just play safe and you win, because overall you have a more positive impact on the game.

Personally when I played passive and just outfarmed opponents I won A LOT less.Being overagressive seems better in yoloq.

Well you're not playing passive, you're playing pussy. We all know that.

Playing passive on a hero you know well doesn't work because you won't YOLO enough during mid-game. To win soloQ you need to be sort of crazy.
The legend of Darien lives on
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-03 19:33:49
September 03 2013 19:29 GMT
#3070
On September 04 2013 03:36 5miley wrote:
Seriously how do I deal with vlad when playing zed. After his first back it seems I start loosing trades hard, and if I ever try to ult him he pools. I have tried just pushing him out and roaming, but he clears waves pretty fast and chunks me down. It's worse than playing against kayle, at least your harass is meaningful against her.

As I said before, Vlad is a major Zed counter. You have to really, really snowball the lane hard early on (like the very first few levels), which is difficult enough as is when playing as a Zed vs a Vlad. If he's playing well, he won't die to you early, and after that, you're basically fucked.

Plus he outscales you as the game progresses.

So basically, go all-out with a red pot+3 gambit and pray he mispositions early and grants you a kill. If not, the lane will be Vlad's no matter what. Either you are able to kill him before the first back (which is a difficult proposition in the Zed v. Vlad matchup), or you lose flat out. If you snowball it, push out and roam and try to win the midgame, because he'll naturally outscale you in lane even with a deficit.

You can try jungler ganks. Vlad's also one of the weakest jungle follow-up champions in the game (even Soraka's better) early on, so you do have some leeway for early aggression against him (not if you're top, though).
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
September 03 2013 19:39 GMT
#3071
http://evilgeniuses.gg/changes-to-the-eg-lol-roster/
Shacker off EG, nrated to lemonpups :O
Glorious SEA doto
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
September 03 2013 19:42 GMT
#3072
just force his pool before u ult, when he gets zhonya u are screwed but he still cannot jsut go 1v1 without harassing u earlier
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
September 03 2013 19:44 GMT
#3073
On September 04 2013 04:39 Fusilero wrote:
http://evilgeniuses.gg/changes-to-the-eg-lol-roster/
Shacker off EG, nrated to lemonpups :O


To be expected. Shacker wasn't good. Nrated is more interesting. It sounded like lemonpups have/had a pretty good analyst and i'm not sure how good nrated is at the role
caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6421 Posts
September 03 2013 19:46 GMT
#3074
On September 04 2013 04:44 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2013 04:39 Fusilero wrote:
http://evilgeniuses.gg/changes-to-the-eg-lol-roster/
Shacker off EG, nrated to lemonpups :O


To be expected. Shacker wasn't good. Nrated is more interesting. It sounded like lemonpups have/had a pretty good analyst and i'm not sure how good nrated is at the role

LD's former analyst kinda got shafted right before worlds
bnet: caelym#1470 | Twitter: @caelym
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-03 19:53:35
September 03 2013 19:53 GMT
#3075
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1lnwa1/hi_im_ecco_former_mid_of_velocity/
Ecco off velocity
tl;dr: ecco didn't agree with the team's practice which according to him was brute force scrimming when he wanted to do replay analysis and study things like ogn and he felt out of place on the team and didn't enjoy it.
Glorious SEA doto
5miley
Profile Joined January 2010
United States64 Posts
September 03 2013 19:57 GMT
#3076
I main zed in gold 1 with over 100 games, and the vlads I face seem to recognize when they are killable pre 6 and just back. Sure they loose a wave,but they come back with some cloth armors. I really dislike non ward starts, but mabye I'll start red pot vs vlad just for kicks.
lol in the pants
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35161 Posts
September 03 2013 20:04 GMT
#3077
On September 04 2013 04:53 Fusilero wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1lnwa1/hi_im_ecco_former_mid_of_velocity/
Ecco off velocity
tl;dr: ecco didn't agree with the team's practice which according to him was brute force scrimming when he wanted to do replay analysis and study things like ogn and he felt out of place on the team and didn't enjoy it.

Oooh, sounds like a free agent for TSM should Regi want to retire again...
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
September 03 2013 20:05 GMT
#3078
On September 04 2013 04:53 Fusilero wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1lnwa1/hi_im_ecco_former_mid_of_velocity/
Ecco off velocity
tl;dr: ecco didn't agree with the team's practice which according to him was brute force scrimming when he wanted to do replay analysis and study things like ogn and he felt out of place on the team and didn't enjoy it.

I want to hear GTRSRS call on this.
The legend of Darien lives on
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
September 03 2013 20:08 GMT
#3079
On September 04 2013 05:04 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2013 04:53 Fusilero wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1lnwa1/hi_im_ecco_former_mid_of_velocity/
Ecco off velocity
tl;dr: ecco didn't agree with the team's practice which according to him was brute force scrimming when he wanted to do replay analysis and study things like ogn and he felt out of place on the team and didn't enjoy it.

Oooh, sounds like a free agent for TSM should Regi want to retire again...


Sucks that good talent doesn't get picked up by top teams because they rather keep their old guys that haven't performed in a lot time. Not to say Regi is like that though, rather speaking about some other teams.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
September 03 2013 20:09 GMT
#3080
It seems that ecco has already found a challenger team though
I am currently playing on an amateur team named "The Bop Squad" which consists of Hoodstomp, Lohpally, Ninjaken and Richerich. I am enjoying my time with them and think we have a strong future ^

Lol hoodstomp is playing again, time for CLG black to go 5/5 in LCS.
Glorious SEA doto
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