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Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-02 15:44:46
August 02 2013 15:44 GMT
#1461
On August 03 2013 00:40 TheYango wrote:
My FF personal ranking: Tactics > 6 > 5 > 4 > don't care about any of the others.

Tactics is pretty much just way better than any of the main series FFs though.


Tactics >>> 10 > 6 imo.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
August 02 2013 15:45 GMT
#1462
--- Nuked ---
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 02 2013 15:45 GMT
#1463
On August 03 2013 00:43 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 00:41 Requizen wrote:
On August 03 2013 00:40 TheYango wrote:
My FF personal ranking: Tactics > 6 > 5 > 4 > don't care about any of the others.

Nostalgia gaming snob

Realistically it's just hard for me to like the newer FFs because while the series probably did get better, the rest of the JRPG genre got better by a lot more. SMT: Persona basically left FF in the dust, IMO.

EDIT: Welp, just saw your above post. lol

I really want to like SMT. The story is interesting, the characters are cool. I keep trying to play them.

I just can't do that battle system. It grates on me for some reason, and I grew up on (and still play) turn based shit all the time. I don't know what it is.
It's your boy Guzma!
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-02 15:45:49
August 02 2013 15:45 GMT
#1464
On August 03 2013 00:37 Requizen wrote:Edit: OK Frog had decent character development but everyone else was basically a caricature after their intro story was over.


+ Show Spoiler +
So I'm guessing you let Lucca's mom's legs get sawed off.


YOU JERK.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-02 15:46:20
August 02 2013 15:46 GMT
#1465
Just for the record, the greatest RPG of all time is paper mario the thousand year door
Glorious SEA doto
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
August 02 2013 15:47 GMT
#1466
On August 03 2013 00:45 JimmiC wrote:
How much does FPS matter. I'm playing at like 40 when I see pros they often at 120 or higher. How would having a higher fps effect my game play?


It's more about fps spikes than anything else. If you always 40 and never not 40 regardless of situation it's prob fine. If you dipping in teamfights then it might be bad. Dipping at like 120 isn't that big a deal but dipping low can make things hard.
emraaa
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany505 Posts
August 02 2013 15:48 GMT
#1467
On August 03 2013 00:33 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
Anyway, does anyone remember this video?



Randomly thought of it and watched it again. Some of the editing seems pretty cheesy now but I remember thinking it was the shit back then. So many names still around in NA LCS now =o

wow that video reminded me of this :D
http://www.sk-gaming.com/video/309010-Araneae_1__LoL_frenzy
Sure as the dust that floats high and true, when movin through kashmir
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-02 15:50:15
August 02 2013 15:49 GMT
#1468
IMO that's a pretty outdated look on Vayne. The changes to her E made her laning phase pretty safe. Also she's actually got one of the scariest bursts out of ADC. If you have a solid support; a condemn into wall isn't that hard to achieve, and the follow up after that is pretty deadly. Also if you have proper peeling/teamfighting, Vayne is not quite as vulnerable as we used to think.
On August 03 2013 00:45 JimmiC wrote:
How much does FPS matter. I'm playing at like 40 when I see pros they often at 120 or higher. How would having a higher fps effect my game play?

I think there was something about input response that makes higher fps better. But, I seriously doubt it matters.
liftlift > tsm
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 02 2013 15:49 GMT
#1469
On August 03 2013 00:45 zer0das wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 00:37 Requizen wrote:Edit: OK Frog had decent character development but everyone else was basically a caricature after their intro story was over.


+ Show Spoiler +
So I'm guessing you let Lucca's mom's legs get sawed off.


YOU JERK.


+ Show Spoiler +
I didn't finish past the point where Chrono dies. I just didn't care about the story.


On August 03 2013 00:46 Fusilero wrote:
Just for the record, the greatest RPG of all time is paper mario the thousand year door


Good taste. I liked the Wii one as well.
It's your boy Guzma!
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 02 2013 15:51 GMT
#1470
The problem with Chrono Trigger for me is that I always get to the point where I'm grinding a bunch of levels in the Black Omen, and then I get bored and go beat the game without beating Queen Zeal.
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WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-02 15:53:37
August 02 2013 15:51 GMT
#1471
You got to be a giant hipster or a really old/young dude if you don't care about FF7 -.-

Shit Aeris why ?
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-02 15:53:33
August 02 2013 15:51 GMT
#1472
On August 03 2013 00:46 Fusilero wrote:
Just for the record, the greatest RPG of all time is paper mario the thousand year door

Planescape Torment is the greatest RPG of all time.
For console; best RPG is Chrono Trigger
On August 03 2013 00:51 WhiteDog wrote:
You got to be a giant hipster or a really old/young dude if you don't care about FF7 -.-

I think people only liked FF7 cuz story/characters, in terms of gameplay I don't think it really added too much.
liftlift > tsm
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-02 15:54:48
August 02 2013 15:53 GMT
#1473
I consider JRPG and CRPG as two distinct genres. It's too frustrating to try and compare games between them because their design is too different.

On August 03 2013 00:49 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 00:46 Fusilero wrote:
Just for the record, the greatest RPG of all time is paper mario the thousand year door


Good taste. I liked the Wii one as well.

Intelligent Systems did a good job with the original SMRPG concept, not sure I could pick one out as the "best" one.
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xPulsAr
Profile Joined October 2011
Japan107 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-02 15:59:05
August 02 2013 15:56 GMT
#1474
On August 03 2013 00:35 Clinic wrote:
jumping on the ff discussion before it dies to ask if anyone knows whether this is official or fanmade. i don't recall it being a part of the ost but very well could be wrong

Dunno if this has been answered yet, but this version was made by TAMusic, a famous Touhou Doujin. TAM also released a few Final Fantasy Violin albums, definitely worth checking out! My personal favorite is the violin/piano arrangement of Roses of May (FF9).

His Youtube-Channel:
http://www.youtube.com/user/violinpiano2

Edit: Spelling ._."
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
August 02 2013 15:57 GMT
#1475
On August 02 2013 23:48 zer0das wrote:
Well, jungle Yi feels better to me as far as early clearing/gank potential goes. The one really big strike is there's a lot fewer situations I can go into because meditate's % damage reduction is absolutely terrible compared to the flat resists. I don't know how on earth you can call double strike a disappointing passive, its pretty much his old passive but it procs almost twice as often, so its better with on-hits and the consistency is a lot better once you're trained on a target.

Way I see it is AD jungle Yi is borderline viable due to how strong his ganks are, whereas previously, if you went AD jungle Yi without any tanky crap you were pretty much useless because your alpha didn't come back up on a ridiculously short cooldown. Ie, he probably won't ever be jungled in competitive play, but he's a monster at homing in on targets and cutting them to pieces. His ganks before his remake were already pretty scary, so if you were already good at snowballing as him in the previous jungle, shouldn't be that much of a problem now.

You do have to start building tanky stuff eventually, but the window for that feels much larger than it used to be.


For jungling the new passive is a marked improvement, especially because the second strike counts toward the next stack. For ganking and fighting it's a mixed bag. Because the new passive has a duration you can't stack it before a gank. You can also lose your stacks to CC during teamfights or chases. Overall the new passive is better, but you have to be a better player to really take advantage of it.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-02 15:58:37
August 02 2013 15:57 GMT
#1476
On August 03 2013 00:51 TheYango wrote:
The problem with Chrono Trigger for me is that I always get to the point where I'm grinding a bunch of levels in the Black Omen, and then I get bored and go beat the game without beating Queen Zeal.

Chrono Trigger is legit beatable without any sort of level grinding whatsoever, though. Part of this is because the stat system is additive (not multiplicative), so being level 1 with the best equipment means you're only about 50% weaker than being at level ~40 with the best equipment.

In fact, there's a challenge to beat Chrono Trigger with the lowest possible level. It's possible to beat the entire game (and all of the sidequests, Queen Zeal, etc.) while Crono is still level 1. You have to try to avoid exp to do this, and take advantage of some obscure game mechanics, but it's possible.


EDIT: the protagonist's name is Crono, not Chrono
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-02 15:59:09
August 02 2013 15:58 GMT
#1477
On August 03 2013 00:51 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 00:51 WhiteDog wrote:
You got to be a giant hipster or a really old/young dude if you don't care about FF7 -.-

I think people only liked FF7 cuz story/characters, in terms of gameplay I don't think it really added too much.

Yep exactly, but to be fair the gameplay of RPGs were all pretty simple - FF8 wasn't that great gameplay wise either.

FF X-2 was a novelty, nothing else like it. Hahahaha
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 02 2013 15:59 GMT
#1478
Oh, I know that, it's just that I get the incessant need to grind levels when i reach the Black Omen because you gain a level like every 2 fights, and then I don't want to finish the Black Omen because I'm sick of every enemy in there.
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-02 16:02:14
August 02 2013 15:59 GMT
#1479
The problem with CC/CT is that I've never done them.
Actually, I've seen somebody finish FF V but not gone till there myself, did about half of the IV, got bored of the VIII right before the final dungeon. Two dungeons from the first's end. Somewhere in the 2nd too.
I've still got to do the Cathedral's basement, the Glow and Mariposa to clear the first Fallout (got annoyed trying a dozen times in a row to go talk to the priest at the top of the Cathedral before finally understanding that it's Dogmeat who's drawing aggro even if I'm disguised and I can't tell me "wait for me here" like the other companions), and I sometimes play BG 2 to clear 2-3 character quests during the 2nd chapter, the magic system, need to sleep all the time however unrealistic that is and the absurdity of protection spells and having to use a precise sequence of particular spells everytime a mage is in the enemy party before I even start actually fighting got me bored of the fights super fast (I'm not one to minmax stuff either, I like to progress relatively fast so I can enjoy the story and stuff at a decent pacing).

So much classics I haven't done, so many games I haven't finished. >>
(Oh, and FFT I didn't finish either, was before the last series of fights when I got a new pc, and the save file got corrupted upon moving it from the former one to the external HDD. I know the ending so I'm not too motivated to play another 40-50 hours I already played through just to access it myself. Esp. as grinding is pretty boring in this one, sadly.)

On August 03 2013 00:57 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2013 23:48 zer0das wrote:
Well, jungle Yi feels better to me as far as early clearing/gank potential goes. The one really big strike is there's a lot fewer situations I can go into because meditate's % damage reduction is absolutely terrible compared to the flat resists. I don't know how on earth you can call double strike a disappointing passive, its pretty much his old passive but it procs almost twice as often, so its better with on-hits and the consistency is a lot better once you're trained on a target.

Way I see it is AD jungle Yi is borderline viable due to how strong his ganks are, whereas previously, if you went AD jungle Yi without any tanky crap you were pretty much useless because your alpha didn't come back up on a ridiculously short cooldown. Ie, he probably won't ever be jungled in competitive play, but he's a monster at homing in on targets and cutting them to pieces. His ganks before his remake were already pretty scary, so if you were already good at snowballing as him in the previous jungle, shouldn't be that much of a problem now.

You do have to start building tanky stuff eventually, but the window for that feels much larger than it used to be.


For jungling the new passive is a marked improvement, especially because the second strike counts toward the next stack.

Woah, that's big dps-wise once you get to trigger it once. x_o
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Gladness
Profile Joined June 2012
United States59 Posts
August 02 2013 16:00 GMT
#1480
No love for the Gameboy FF licenses? Final Fantasy Adventure was a great Zelda clone, but worthwhile for its Mission of Mana song if nothing more.

+ Show Spoiler +


I remember enjoying the FF Legend series too, but they never gave me a tune that stuck in my head for 20 years.
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