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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-02 15:18:53
August 02 2013 15:18 GMT
#1441
On August 03 2013 00:17 XaCez wrote:
FFIX OST > FFX OST.

9 is great too, I actually haven't listened to the OST that much.

On August 03 2013 00:15 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 00:04 Requizen wrote:
On August 03 2013 00:03 AsnSensation wrote:
On August 02 2013 15:40 Amui wrote:
IIRC I picked charmander my first time playing pokemon, then totodile because I saw my friends feralygatr and I was like holy shit I want. Can't remember what I picked in the later generations.


+ Show Spoiler +

Obligatory link to my favourite version of an ingame song.


Also probably the most calming piece there is.

+ Show Spoiler +


I love you dude! FFX is my favourite Game OST of all time, Zanarkland my most frqeuently played "classic" but nooo way anyone beats the original suteki Da Ne singer, Rikki


FFX is probably my second favorite FF of all time (narrowly losing to 8), but it wins out in music 100000x over. That fucking OST man, heartbreaking.

You. Get out.

What's wrong with 8?

Edit: wait, I realize it has its flaws, so hold off on that. But overall it's still my favorite, despite a couple annoying things.
It's your boy Guzma!
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-02 15:21:56
August 02 2013 15:19 GMT
#1442
8 is not 6.

FF6's soundtrack is incredible, even moreso when given a full instrumental treatment. The characters are memorable, and the soundtrack complements each character perfectly.

Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 02 2013 15:20 GMT
#1443
On August 03 2013 00:19 sylverfyre wrote:
8 is not 6.

Never played 6.

Who am I kidding, KH is the best FF anyway~
It's your boy Guzma!
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
August 02 2013 15:23 GMT
#1444
FFX Best soundtrack.

Crisis core revamped FF7 soundtrack is good too.

FF7 - FFX Best games. GG NO RE gtfo if disagree.
Useless wet fish.
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-02 15:27:44
August 02 2013 15:27 GMT
#1445
Stop speaking about FFs.
Those games all suck.

EDIT : Maybe except 6 and 9. The others are plain terrible RPGs.
The legend of Darien lives on
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-02 15:28:58
August 02 2013 15:27 GMT
#1446
FF V had good moments and a decent plot, despite pretty minimal character development. The job system is pretty nifty too, although it's very grind-enticing, which is Evil.

IV had decent moments too, but suffered a lot from the sacrifice syndrome (stop killing/"killing" characters everytime you need to switch the party dammit).

VII lost a lot of appeal to me once I understood that it was a mistake if Jenova seemed like the true villain, and that the creator indeed intended for uber-emo proto-goth dude Sephiroth to be the compelling villain for the game. Meh.
(Several characters are also ruined if you ever try to consider the additional games cannon. I refuse to consider Cloud and his lab flashback in the light of Crisis' Core final scenes.)

FF VI's job system was nice, but the magic/esper system basically reduced character to their job command, since it made it so easy to get all characters at the same level, with exactly the same stats (maybe not HP/MP) and same spells. Not as grating as FF VIII's system though, but it made the game pretty easy past a point, sadly.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 02 2013 15:29 GMT
#1447
On August 03 2013 00:27 mr_tolkien wrote:
Stop speaking about FFs.
Those games all suck.

EDIT : Maybe except 6 and 9. The others are plain terrible RPGs.

You smell funny. I bet you don't even like Golden Sun.
It's your boy Guzma!
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
August 02 2013 15:31 GMT
#1448
On August 03 2013 00:27 Alaric wrote:
FF V had good moments and a decent plot, despite pretty minimal character development. The job system is pretty nifty too, although it's very grind-enticing, which is Evil.

IV had decent moments too, but suffered a lot from the sacrifice syndrome (stop killing/"killing" characters everytime you need to switch the party dammit).

VII lost a lot of appeal to me once I understood that it was a mistake if Jenova seemed like the true villain, and that the creator indeed intended for uber-emo proto-goth dude Sephiroth to be the compelling villain for the game. Meh.
(Several characters are also ruined if you ever try to consider the additional games cannon. I refuse to consider Cloud and his lab flashback in the light of Crisis' Core final scenes.)

FF VI's job system was nice, but the magic/esper system basically reduced character to their job command, since it made it so easy to get all characters at the same level, with exactly the same stats (maybe not HP/MP) and same spells. Not as grating as FF VIII's system though, but it made the game pretty easy past a point, sadly.

In literally any (single player)RPG if you powerlevel, you can make the game trivially easy. Even "super hard" optional bosses don't really pose much of a challenge if you just grind the challenge away.

Story-wise, it's best to view older RPGs (primarily ones in the era of FF4-6, CT) more as a novel, whereas newer ones (FF7+, etc) are more of an interactive movie.
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
August 02 2013 15:33 GMT
#1449
Anyway, does anyone remember this video?



Randomly thought of it and watched it again. Some of the editing seems pretty cheesy now but I remember thinking it was the shit back then. So many names still around in NA LCS now =o
cool beans
Kyrie
Profile Joined June 2013
1594 Posts
August 02 2013 15:35 GMT
#1450
jumping on the ff discussion before it dies to ask if anyone knows whether this is official or fanmade. i don't recall it being a part of the ost but very well could be wrong
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-02 15:39:24
August 02 2013 15:37 GMT
#1451
On August 03 2013 00:31 sylverfyre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 00:27 Alaric wrote:
FF V had good moments and a decent plot, despite pretty minimal character development. The job system is pretty nifty too, although it's very grind-enticing, which is Evil.

IV had decent moments too, but suffered a lot from the sacrifice syndrome (stop killing/"killing" characters everytime you need to switch the party dammit).

VII lost a lot of appeal to me once I understood that it was a mistake if Jenova seemed like the true villain, and that the creator indeed intended for uber-emo proto-goth dude Sephiroth to be the compelling villain for the game. Meh.
(Several characters are also ruined if you ever try to consider the additional games cannon. I refuse to consider Cloud and his lab flashback in the light of Crisis' Core final scenes.)

FF VI's job system was nice, but the magic/esper system basically reduced character to their job command, since it made it so easy to get all characters at the same level, with exactly the same stats (maybe not HP/MP) and same spells. Not as grating as FF VIII's system though, but it made the game pretty easy past a point, sadly.

In literally any (single player)RPG if you powerlevel, you can make the game trivially easy. Even "super hard" optional bosses don't really pose much of a challenge if you just grind the challenge away.

Story-wise, it's best to view older RPGs (primarily ones in the era of FF4-6, CT) more as a novel, whereas newer ones (FF7+, etc) are more of an interactive movie.

That's a really ambiguous way to describe it. Novels and movies can both have the same caliber stories, it's just that Hollywood decides to be shit.

I think a better way to describe it is plot-oriented vs character-oriented. Old FFs really had "stop bad guy, save world, win game", with some character development like FF4. FF3, for instance, basically had no character development from what I remember, and was basically a story of saving the world. Chrono Trigger did this as well.

Edit: OK Frog had decent character development but everyone else was basically a caricature after their intro story was over.

Newer ones, specifically the FF VII - X era, focused more on the characters and their stories more than just saving the world for the sake of saving it. I like this better, personally, as I get more invested in the personalities than overarching plot in most stories.
It's your boy Guzma!
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51691 Posts
August 02 2013 15:38 GMT
#1452
Anyone know where I can find Korean VODs of the first three Champions seasons? (basically everything before Winter 2012-13)
Commentator
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-02 15:42:00
August 02 2013 15:40 GMT
#1453
My FF personal ranking: Tactics > 6 > 5 > 4 > don't care about any of the others.

Tactics is pretty much just way better than any of the main series FFs though.
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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 02 2013 15:41 GMT
#1454
On August 03 2013 00:40 TheYango wrote:
My FF personal ranking: Tactics > 6 > 5 > 4 > don't care about any of the others.

Nostalgia gaming snob
It's your boy Guzma!
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 02 2013 15:41 GMT
#1455
On August 03 2013 00:40 TheYango wrote:
My FF personal ranking: Tactics > 6 > 5 > 4 > don't care about any of the others.

I wanted to like tactics but it kept busting my balls, my PS1 controller did not last very long.

PSP didn't fare that much better when I tried again on it.
Glorious SEA doto
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
August 02 2013 15:42 GMT
#1456
On August 03 2013 00:40 TheYango wrote:
My FF personal ranking: Tactics > 6 > 5 > 4 > don't care about any of the others.

Tactics; can always count on Yango for classy tastes.
liftlift > tsm
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 02 2013 15:42 GMT
#1457
On August 03 2013 00:41 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 00:40 TheYango wrote:
My FF personal ranking: Tactics > 6 > 5 > 4 > don't care about any of the others.

I wanted to like tactics but it kept busting my balls, my PS1 controller did not last very long.

PSP didn't fare that much better when I tried again on it.

I don't like Tactics style games honestly. Couldn't do SMT for the same reason.

For some reason I liked Advance Wars tho.
It's your boy Guzma!
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-02 15:43:40
August 02 2013 15:43 GMT
#1458
On August 03 2013 00:41 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 00:40 TheYango wrote:
My FF personal ranking: Tactics > 6 > 5 > 4 > don't care about any of the others.

Nostalgia gaming snob

Realistically it's just hard for me to like the newer FFs because while the series probably did get better, the rest of the JRPG genre got better by a lot more. SMT: Persona basically left FF in the dust, IMO.

EDIT: Welp, just saw your above post. lol
Moderator
Vanka
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
China1336 Posts
August 02 2013 15:43 GMT
#1459
I spend the last 2 days trying to catch up when I'm busy most of the day at work to find out most of the 40 pages I was behind was a bunch of random tangents and then I finally catch up to find we've just started yet another tanget. ._. (Rydia's theme is the best FF song of all time)

I really don't understand the vayne hate. Literally every ad in the game has an advantage in lane against her. Ashe beats her (AND crushes her late game which is incidentally hilarious). Any leona combo on her basically one shots her (hard to engage on her, yadada, but if we're talking about being scared of vayne in low elo?), trist base damage combo does 80% of her health at level 6, draven will make her go back with just a couple axes, passive or no passive.

If she goes for a silver bolts proc trade, if you just sit there and take it while hitting her back, basically everyone outrades her (mf, draven, trist, varus, even ez if you don't miss), and those that don't out range her (ashe and cait).

Even if you can't beat her in lane, and you don't have #1 vayne counter ryze, just get some incidental AoE damage. Karthus and Rumble ult chunk her significantly.

And if you fail beating her weak game, can't counter her mid game, then you can still pick an ad that outscales her late game. There are three. (Trist, kog, ashe).

And I know appealing to authority is terrible, but let me put it this way. The most popular high elo adc on the chinese server (if nothing else, we have adcs) by a significant margin is not vayne, but cait (yes, after nerfs). There's a reason for that.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
August 02 2013 15:43 GMT
#1460
On August 03 2013 00:40 TheYango wrote:
My FF personal ranking: Tactics > 6 > 5 > 4 > don't care about any of the others.

Tactics is pretty much just way better than any of the main series FFs though.

Tactics' scenario was a bit convoluted but damn good. Tactic Ogre's too, but damn, this game is hard.

Then you get FFTA which plot is... well... T_T

(Also Gafgarion #1 mercenary, at least he remembers his job.)
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
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