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nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
August 01 2013 19:07 GMT
#1061
You are assuming vayne sucks.You can block a xin e before it even reaching you easily.Vayne has a team as well I am not talking about 1v1.When I play the thing I have issues with is stuff like kennen who just zone me hard.Aoe is the best thing vs vayne other than lissandra/vi+w/e combo or some shit.
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
August 01 2013 19:09 GMT
#1062
What would the Irish DnD skills be
I was thinking of something along those lines Teut:
Feat: Mutual Attraction: wild and domesticated Sheep flock to you.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 19:12:07
August 01 2013 19:11 GMT
#1063
dunno
high alcohol tolerance
barfighting experience
high charisma?

sheep is more of a welsh joke anyways

LUCK
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 19:12:48
August 01 2013 19:12 GMT
#1064
On August 02 2013 04:11 Slayer91 wrote:
dunno
high alcohol tolerance
barfighting experience
high charisma?


This would be true for all slavic countries as well.Just need to add bad english.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 01 2013 19:12 GMT
#1065
On August 02 2013 04:03 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2013 03:58 nafta wrote:
If vayne just condemns your gapcloser what exactly do you do vs her?Considering how obvious it is it is VERY easy.Even if she somehow can't do it you have bork/tumble.

edit:Damn.I surrender this argument.I am wrong.You won kind sir.

To be fair xin is pretty terrible.



well you can get rapped in 1v1 but in teamfights assuming u got close to max cdr since your e outranges vaynes e and vayne cant b sure when you go in on her (usually you time it after she tumbles in to hit omething though) you get E R(if it wasnt used already) and 1-2 q hits before condemn lands and then you can either back off (E should have 3-4 seconds only of cd) or like flash in to hit the knock up and if she flashes away your e will be back up and next Q cd you can kill her

ideally you want ur team to follow up on the knockup and make things simpler if vayne is fed or somethign

xin isnt evne close to terrible wtf he's so fucking strong it doenst even make sense how much damage he does

keep in mind 40% cdr xin has 3 second q and e (if u hit all 3 hits of q) cd and q comes off pretty fast with W up (obviously q cd starts when you finish the knockup but 1 second knock up combined with your e slow usually enough to make up for that because ur e is 2 second slow and knockup is 1 second after cd starts)
you want either randuins or ghostblade to counterbalance the op shit that is botrk

How good is Ghostblade? I haven't bought that item in forever. Last time was like a year ago on Noc and Yi I think. @_@
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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 19:15:41
August 01 2013 19:12 GMT
#1066
On August 02 2013 04:12 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2013 04:11 Slayer91 wrote:
dunno
high alcohol tolerance
barfighting experience
high charisma?


This would be true for all slavic countries as well.Just need to add bad english.



shut up get your own stereotype you cant steal ours

ghostblade is stronk on xin and in scrappy games on vi but its one of those items that only works on certain champs that need cdr and armourpen and still auto attack a lot
most autoattackers have on hit shit like irelia w or are just straight up ad carries and dont need cdr

black cleaver sounds better in theory but its more of an anti tank weapon and normally xin doesnt worry about them though sometimes vi does so its a better buy on her (bc+W armour pen+W%hp damage so op)
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 19:14:31
August 01 2013 19:13 GMT
#1067
perhaps something like
Lazy Tongue: Too lazy to speak

sorry Teut but alcohol resistance (and vision bonus from consuming methanol) is a Russian bonus.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 19:14:31
August 01 2013 19:14 GMT
#1068
thats a personal trait and its not even personal i dont even shut the fuck up i just dont have a mic
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 19:15:16
August 01 2013 19:14 GMT
#1069
On August 02 2013 04:03 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 22:47 Requizen wrote:
On August 01 2013 15:45 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
On August 01 2013 15:39 Stupidity wrote:
On August 01 2013 15:38 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 01 2013 15:36 Stupidity wrote:
Hi guys, quick question. I'm a masters level SC2 player trying to make the transition to League right now but am getting stuck with a bunch of idiots on my team every game. What I don't understand is how everyone is so toxic in this game. Even some of the streamers I see here are really stupid and make shit plays but won't admit them. Why is that? I'm stuck in silver right now because every time I die, my team calls me a noob and just AFKs or does something stupid. I can't play the champions I want to play (Teams won't let me play Karma, even though I've seen pro players pick her) because they just say I'm stupid and bad.

How do I get myself out? In SC2, it was always just me vs. the other guy. Here I have to babysit and take care of 4 stupid kids every single game while putting up with all this shit. All League players seem to be very toxic and it's just a very bad environment. I don't understand because these people are not only bad, but they can't admit their own mistakes, and they blame others. I read threads in this forum and the ones in the QQ thread basically sum up League of Legends as a whole. A toxic community full of toxic players. I know I'm better than everyone here, I just feel very restricted because others are dragging me down. I've tried watching some people stream, but there are rarely any good streamers here on TL, and most of them are toxic too. Even players like Destiny are what I consider toxic players. Why do you people put up with incorrect theorycrafting and just overall bad play and bad ideas?

What do you think? I'm sure others here experience the same thing. What do you suggest I do?

the post and name fits so damn well.

Perfect example of what I'm talking about. I'm trying to ask for help and I get this idiot berating me for no reason.

Maybe being so defensive after asking for help is one of the reasons you feel like everybody is dumb and is picking on you >.>

Honestly I've found that in most cases, what you give is what you get. I thought silver was a fucking den of vipers until I had an epiphany (aka playing Katawa Shoujo) and just decided to be a bro in game. Turns out that everyone is emotionally inconsistent and will, for the most part, match the vibe you set in game. Stop thinking "I know I'm better than everyone else here" because that's what everyone else thinks and it gets you absolutely nowhere. So having that kind of mindset is solo-queue suicide.

TLDR just be nice

TLDR Katawa Shoujo changes lives for the better <3

Honestly tho, I have noticed (and I'm sure my stream viewers have as well) a huge difference in my overall skill level and victory percentage based on my attitude. I'm pretty sold on the fact that this game is like 80% mindset at minimum, even with my last hitting I can win lanes and games when I'm not breaking my fist on the wall.

Just gotta relax~ + Show Spoiler +

Lilly path, best path.


#Lillybro
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 01 2013 19:15 GMT
#1070
On August 02 2013 04:03 NeoIllusions wrote:


Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 22:47 Requizen wrote:
On August 01 2013 15:45 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
On August 01 2013 15:39 Stupidity wrote:
On August 01 2013 15:38 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 01 2013 15:36 Stupidity wrote:
Hi guys, quick question. I'm a masters level SC2 player trying to make the transition to League right now but am getting stuck with a bunch of idiots on my team every game. What I don't understand is how everyone is so toxic in this game. Even some of the streamers I see here are really stupid and make shit plays but won't admit them. Why is that? I'm stuck in silver right now because every time I die, my team calls me a noob and just AFKs or does something stupid. I can't play the champions I want to play (Teams won't let me play Karma, even though I've seen pro players pick her) because they just say I'm stupid and bad.

How do I get myself out? In SC2, it was always just me vs. the other guy. Here I have to babysit and take care of 4 stupid kids every single game while putting up with all this shit. All League players seem to be very toxic and it's just a very bad environment. I don't understand because these people are not only bad, but they can't admit their own mistakes, and they blame others. I read threads in this forum and the ones in the QQ thread basically sum up League of Legends as a whole. A toxic community full of toxic players. I know I'm better than everyone here, I just feel very restricted because others are dragging me down. I've tried watching some people stream, but there are rarely any good streamers here on TL, and most of them are toxic too. Even players like Destiny are what I consider toxic players. Why do you people put up with incorrect theorycrafting and just overall bad play and bad ideas?

What do you think? I'm sure others here experience the same thing. What do you suggest I do?

the post and name fits so damn well.

Perfect example of what I'm talking about. I'm trying to ask for help and I get this idiot berating me for no reason.

Maybe being so defensive after asking for help is one of the reasons you feel like everybody is dumb and is picking on you >.>

Honestly I've found that in most cases, what you give is what you get. I thought silver was a fucking den of vipers until I had an epiphany (aka playing Katawa Shoujo) and just decided to be a bro in game. Turns out that everyone is emotionally inconsistent and will, for the most part, match the vibe you set in game. Stop thinking "I know I'm better than everyone else here" because that's what everyone else thinks and it gets you absolutely nowhere. So having that kind of mindset is solo-queue suicide.

TLDR just be nice

TLDR Katawa Shoujo changes lives for the better <3

Honestly tho, I have noticed (and I'm sure my stream viewers have as well) a huge difference in my overall skill level and victory percentage based on my attitude. I'm pretty sold on the fact that this game is like 80% mindset at minimum, even with my last hitting I can win lanes and games when I'm not breaking my fist on the wall.

Just gotta relax~ + Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REP6cOsjsJg

Lilly path, best path.

Neo! I take back everything bad I've ever said about you you are now my bro4lyfe

On August 02 2013 04:12 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2013 04:03 Slayer91 wrote:
On August 02 2013 03:58 nafta wrote:
If vayne just condemns your gapcloser what exactly do you do vs her?Considering how obvious it is it is VERY easy.Even if she somehow can't do it you have bork/tumble.

edit:Damn.I surrender this argument.I am wrong.You won kind sir.

To be fair xin is pretty terrible.



well you can get rapped in 1v1 but in teamfights assuming u got close to max cdr since your e outranges vaynes e and vayne cant b sure when you go in on her (usually you time it after she tumbles in to hit omething though) you get E R(if it wasnt used already) and 1-2 q hits before condemn lands and then you can either back off (E should have 3-4 seconds only of cd) or like flash in to hit the knock up and if she flashes away your e will be back up and next Q cd you can kill her

ideally you want ur team to follow up on the knockup and make things simpler if vayne is fed or somethign

xin isnt evne close to terrible wtf he's so fucking strong it doenst even make sense how much damage he does

keep in mind 40% cdr xin has 3 second q and e (if u hit all 3 hits of q) cd and q comes off pretty fast with W up (obviously q cd starts when you finish the knockup but 1 second knock up combined with your e slow usually enough to make up for that because ur e is 2 second slow and knockup is 1 second after cd starts)
you want either randuins or ghostblade to counterbalance the op shit that is botrk

How good is Ghostblade? I haven't bought that item in forever. Last time was like a year ago on Noc and Yi I think. @_@

Posted in the Yi thread, I like it on new Yi because with that and Zephyr your Alpha strike has like, no CD and you just tear the shit out of teamfights. AD/CDR Yi is my favorite to play right now.
It's your boy Guzma!
Kyrie
Profile Joined June 2013
1594 Posts
August 01 2013 19:15 GMT
#1071
yo http://www.twitch.tv/magic
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
August 01 2013 19:17 GMT
#1072
On August 02 2013 04:12 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2013 04:12 nafta wrote:
On August 02 2013 04:11 Slayer91 wrote:
dunno
high alcohol tolerance
barfighting experience
high charisma?


This would be true for all slavic countries as well.Just need to add bad english.



shut up get your own stereotype you cant steal ours

ghostblade is stronk on xin and in scrappy games on vi but its one of those items that only works on certain champs that need cdr and armourpen and still auto attack a lot
most autoattackers have on hit shit like irelia w or are just straight up ad carries and dont need cdr

black cleaver sounds better in theory but its more of an anti tank weapon and normally xin doesnt worry about them though sometimes vi does so its a better buy on her (bc+W armour pen+W%hp damage so op)


You obviously haven't met my kind.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 19:19:21
August 01 2013 19:19 GMT
#1073
yeah but nobody talks about brawling drunken bulgarians
except in bulgaria
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
August 01 2013 19:20 GMT
#1074
That's because we are a poor man's russia.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
August 01 2013 19:24 GMT
#1075
On August 02 2013 04:15 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2013 04:03 NeoIllusions wrote:


On August 01 2013 22:47 Requizen wrote:
On August 01 2013 15:45 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
On August 01 2013 15:39 Stupidity wrote:
On August 01 2013 15:38 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 01 2013 15:36 Stupidity wrote:
Hi guys, quick question. I'm a masters level SC2 player trying to make the transition to League right now but am getting stuck with a bunch of idiots on my team every game. What I don't understand is how everyone is so toxic in this game. Even some of the streamers I see here are really stupid and make shit plays but won't admit them. Why is that? I'm stuck in silver right now because every time I die, my team calls me a noob and just AFKs or does something stupid. I can't play the champions I want to play (Teams won't let me play Karma, even though I've seen pro players pick her) because they just say I'm stupid and bad.

How do I get myself out? In SC2, it was always just me vs. the other guy. Here I have to babysit and take care of 4 stupid kids every single game while putting up with all this shit. All League players seem to be very toxic and it's just a very bad environment. I don't understand because these people are not only bad, but they can't admit their own mistakes, and they blame others. I read threads in this forum and the ones in the QQ thread basically sum up League of Legends as a whole. A toxic community full of toxic players. I know I'm better than everyone here, I just feel very restricted because others are dragging me down. I've tried watching some people stream, but there are rarely any good streamers here on TL, and most of them are toxic too. Even players like Destiny are what I consider toxic players. Why do you people put up with incorrect theorycrafting and just overall bad play and bad ideas?

What do you think? I'm sure others here experience the same thing. What do you suggest I do?

the post and name fits so damn well.

Perfect example of what I'm talking about. I'm trying to ask for help and I get this idiot berating me for no reason.

Maybe being so defensive after asking for help is one of the reasons you feel like everybody is dumb and is picking on you >.>

Honestly I've found that in most cases, what you give is what you get. I thought silver was a fucking den of vipers until I had an epiphany (aka playing Katawa Shoujo) and just decided to be a bro in game. Turns out that everyone is emotionally inconsistent and will, for the most part, match the vibe you set in game. Stop thinking "I know I'm better than everyone else here" because that's what everyone else thinks and it gets you absolutely nowhere. So having that kind of mindset is solo-queue suicide.

TLDR just be nice

TLDR Katawa Shoujo changes lives for the better <3

Honestly tho, I have noticed (and I'm sure my stream viewers have as well) a huge difference in my overall skill level and victory percentage based on my attitude. I'm pretty sold on the fact that this game is like 80% mindset at minimum, even with my last hitting I can win lanes and games when I'm not breaking my fist on the wall.

Just gotta relax~ + Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REP6cOsjsJg

Lilly path, best path.

Neo! I take back everything bad I've ever said about you you are now my bro4lyfe

Show nested quote +
On August 02 2013 04:12 NeoIllusions wrote:
On August 02 2013 04:03 Slayer91 wrote:
On August 02 2013 03:58 nafta wrote:
If vayne just condemns your gapcloser what exactly do you do vs her?Considering how obvious it is it is VERY easy.Even if she somehow can't do it you have bork/tumble.

edit:Damn.I surrender this argument.I am wrong.You won kind sir.

To be fair xin is pretty terrible.



well you can get rapped in 1v1 but in teamfights assuming u got close to max cdr since your e outranges vaynes e and vayne cant b sure when you go in on her (usually you time it after she tumbles in to hit omething though) you get E R(if it wasnt used already) and 1-2 q hits before condemn lands and then you can either back off (E should have 3-4 seconds only of cd) or like flash in to hit the knock up and if she flashes away your e will be back up and next Q cd you can kill her

ideally you want ur team to follow up on the knockup and make things simpler if vayne is fed or somethign

xin isnt evne close to terrible wtf he's so fucking strong it doenst even make sense how much damage he does

keep in mind 40% cdr xin has 3 second q and e (if u hit all 3 hits of q) cd and q comes off pretty fast with W up (obviously q cd starts when you finish the knockup but 1 second knock up combined with your e slow usually enough to make up for that because ur e is 2 second slow and knockup is 1 second after cd starts)
you want either randuins or ghostblade to counterbalance the op shit that is botrk

How good is Ghostblade? I haven't bought that item in forever. Last time was like a year ago on Noc and Yi I think. @_@

Posted in the Yi thread, I like it on new Yi because with that and Zephyr your Alpha strike has like, no CD and you just tear the shit out of teamfights. AD/CDR Yi is my favorite to play right now.


Ghostblade is a really weird item because I feel like its numbers are strong, but the awkward combination of stats it has makes it only useful on a tiny number of champions.

I've done math to prove that it's the best 4th damage item for Tristana and Quinn, and I think crit+CDR+AD is basically what you want on this new Yi, but for most champs it's just awkward.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Icysoul
Profile Joined December 2007
Canada254 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 19:24:59
August 01 2013 19:24 GMT
#1076
How about these Yi nerfs:

Alpha Strike

Physical Damage: 25 / 60 / 95 / 130 / 165 (+ 100% AD)
Additional damage to minions & monsters: 75 / 100 / 125 / 150 / 175
changed to
Physical Damage: 20 / 35 / 50 / 65 / 80 (+ 100% AD)
Additional damage to minions & monsters: 80 / 125 / 170 / 215 / 260
The idea here is to cut down the base damage while not touching the scaling. Yi was intended to be a high risk, high reward champion. This way, his late game is barely touched while taking away a lot of free damage (the invulerability frames of the Q is alot more important than the actual damage in late game teamfights). The minion damage is to compensate the base damage cut for jungle yi.

Wuju Style

Bonus Attack Damage: 7 / 9 / 11 / 13 / 15% AD
Bonus True damage: 10 / 15 / 20 / 25 / 30 (+10 / 12.5 / 15 / 17.5 / 20% AD)
changed to
Bonus Attack Damage: 15% AD
Bonus True damage: +10 / 12.5 / 15 / 17.5 / 20% AD
Again, the goal here is to cut down his base damage while leaving his late game scaling relatively untouched. Having his passive bonus attack damage always set at 15% compensates a bit for his q base nerf, and help out his relatively weak early game.

I see Yi as an auto attack based Khazix, a bit higher risk for a bit higher reward. But the current Yi is able to start destroying people much too soon with his powerful AOE resets (with a few seconds invulnerability) that khazix can only dream of.
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 19:25:06
August 01 2013 19:24 GMT
#1077
for United States:
New World Education: choose one of the following maluses:
can't learn any language other than english, has no acess to the world map OR
be in a massive dept
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
August 01 2013 19:24 GMT
#1078
http://www.nationalstereotype.com/bulgarian-stereotypes/
1. Survive on tomato
9. Let bears dance on fire
17. Curiosity and openness to the “otherness”

seems legit
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 01 2013 19:25 GMT
#1079
On August 02 2013 04:14 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2013 04:03 NeoIllusions wrote:
On August 01 2013 22:47 Requizen wrote:
On August 01 2013 15:45 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
On August 01 2013 15:39 Stupidity wrote:
On August 01 2013 15:38 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 01 2013 15:36 Stupidity wrote:
Hi guys, quick question. I'm a masters level SC2 player trying to make the transition to League right now but am getting stuck with a bunch of idiots on my team every game. What I don't understand is how everyone is so toxic in this game. Even some of the streamers I see here are really stupid and make shit plays but won't admit them. Why is that? I'm stuck in silver right now because every time I die, my team calls me a noob and just AFKs or does something stupid. I can't play the champions I want to play (Teams won't let me play Karma, even though I've seen pro players pick her) because they just say I'm stupid and bad.

How do I get myself out? In SC2, it was always just me vs. the other guy. Here I have to babysit and take care of 4 stupid kids every single game while putting up with all this shit. All League players seem to be very toxic and it's just a very bad environment. I don't understand because these people are not only bad, but they can't admit their own mistakes, and they blame others. I read threads in this forum and the ones in the QQ thread basically sum up League of Legends as a whole. A toxic community full of toxic players. I know I'm better than everyone here, I just feel very restricted because others are dragging me down. I've tried watching some people stream, but there are rarely any good streamers here on TL, and most of them are toxic too. Even players like Destiny are what I consider toxic players. Why do you people put up with incorrect theorycrafting and just overall bad play and bad ideas?

What do you think? I'm sure others here experience the same thing. What do you suggest I do?

the post and name fits so damn well.

Perfect example of what I'm talking about. I'm trying to ask for help and I get this idiot berating me for no reason.

Maybe being so defensive after asking for help is one of the reasons you feel like everybody is dumb and is picking on you >.>

Honestly I've found that in most cases, what you give is what you get. I thought silver was a fucking den of vipers until I had an epiphany (aka playing Katawa Shoujo) and just decided to be a bro in game. Turns out that everyone is emotionally inconsistent and will, for the most part, match the vibe you set in game. Stop thinking "I know I'm better than everyone else here" because that's what everyone else thinks and it gets you absolutely nowhere. So having that kind of mindset is solo-queue suicide.

TLDR just be nice

TLDR Katawa Shoujo changes lives for the better <3

Honestly tho, I have noticed (and I'm sure my stream viewers have as well) a huge difference in my overall skill level and victory percentage based on my attitude. I'm pretty sold on the fact that this game is like 80% mindset at minimum, even with my last hitting I can win lanes and games when I'm not breaking my fist on the wall.

Just gotta relax~ + Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REP6cOsjsJg

Lilly path, best path.


#Lillybro

u dunt even kno
+ Show Spoiler +
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I still hate u Req. np
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August 01 2013 19:26 GMT
#1080
Yeah the combination of resets and invulnerability is really what's maddening about Yi.
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