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Kyrie
Profile Joined June 2013
1594 Posts
August 01 2013 16:39 GMT
#1021
On August 02 2013 01:32 The_Unseen wrote:
Yo guys, two quick questions for you bunch of ballers :

- I fiddled around with Volibear support yesterday night after a champion select missunderstanding with my boy Hecarim, and I found it to be really strong in lane. One shot wonder or is it legit?

- How do you build Jungle Eve? I tend to go for Sorc Boots > Jungle AP stone > Deathfire > Abyssal, but it's pretty out of meta compared to the Golem > Aegis usual jungler shit. Should I keep doing that ?

Thx a lot for a lowbie <3


volibear: one shot wonder. a lot of bruisers can feel strong as a support in low level play because of their ability to win extended trades in lane against traditional double lanes, but what makes a support a support is the ability to provide significant utility with minimal income. voli only has his flip and needs defensive investment to be able to use it safely

evelynn: see this post by scip
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
August 01 2013 16:41 GMT
#1022
I mean volibear Q gets shut down pretty hard by Nami, Thresh, Lulu, Janna, and Fiddle, you might be able to win lane vs Sona but like all kill lanes vs. Sona there is a limited window to establish a lead before her heal + harass just wins it.
Carrilord has arrived.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
August 01 2013 16:42 GMT
#1023
On August 02 2013 01:39 LaNague wrote:
support voli is one of those things that only work against people that dont know how to react to unusual stuff.

Voli can only all-in and has to get into melee range for it.

That's me I always lose to cheese.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 16:43:39
August 01 2013 16:42 GMT
#1024
Voli's passive doesn't scale with health any more than it scales with armor/mr. EHP is EHP.
He's so useless out of lane; even with his slow in lane, it requires him to be in melee range for its usage. Might as well play Alistar, if you want to go ham in lane.
liftlift > tsm
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
August 01 2013 16:45 GMT
#1025
I've always felt that the best way to deal with cheese for an odd lane matchup that you are not familiar with is just to play really safe. Lose now, win later.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 01 2013 16:46 GMT
#1026
On August 02 2013 01:45 kainzero wrote:
I've always felt that the best way to deal with cheese for an odd lane matchup that you are not familiar with is just to play really safe. Lose now, win later.

Well yeah, that's how you deal with cheese in literally every game.
It's your boy Guzma!
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 16:52:34
August 01 2013 16:48 GMT
#1027
I think you overestimate Volibear's reliance on items, he isn't a good support, but he could get by on a snoopeh salary if he had to.

I honestly feel like the bigger problem(if you had to entertain the idea) of the two is he has like no good lane match ups vs popular picks atm.
Carrilord has arrived.
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
August 01 2013 16:51 GMT
#1028
On August 02 2013 01:48 Slusher wrote:
I think you overestimate Volibear's reliance on items, he isn't a good support, but he could get by on a snoopeh salary if he had to.

Nah he still needs boots at least.
The legend of Darien lives on
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 01 2013 16:55 GMT
#1029
On August 02 2013 01:51 mr_tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2013 01:48 Slusher wrote:
I think you overestimate Volibear's reliance on items, he isn't a good support, but he could get by on a snoopeh salary if he had to.

Nah he still needs boots at least.

Always Swiftness Alacrity bear, never not Swiftness Alacrity bear.
It's your boy Guzma!
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
August 01 2013 17:03 GMT
#1030
On August 02 2013 01:28 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2013 01:22 Slayer91 wrote:
bly is just another "high" elo dick telling wrong people they are wrong without explaining why which is pointless i can do that if you guys want

Don't you already do that?


LOL exactly what I wanted to say.
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
Badboyrune
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2247 Posts
August 01 2013 17:03 GMT
#1031
On August 02 2013 01:55 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2013 01:51 mr_tolkien wrote:
On August 02 2013 01:48 Slusher wrote:
I think you overestimate Volibear's reliance on items, he isn't a good support, but he could get by on a snoopeh salary if he had to.

Nah he still needs boots at least.

Always Swiftness Alacrity bear, never not Swiftness Alacrity bear.


Going for swiftness alacrity ghost and all active movement speed items you can find on volibear is thé funnest thing ever in aram. Racer bear op.
"If yellow does start SC2, I should start handsomenerd diaper busniess and become a rich man" - John the Translator
Lysteria
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
France2280 Posts
August 01 2013 17:12 GMT
#1032
On August 02 2013 02:03 Badboyrune wrote:
Going for swiftness alacrity ghost and all active movement speed items you can find on volibear is thé funnest thing ever in aram. Racer bear op.


It works on every bears, Udyr included.
Especially in those dire Master Yi ages.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 17:16:14
August 01 2013 17:14 GMT
#1033
voli sup seems like an interesting idea, still lee support is my favourite
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
August 01 2013 17:16 GMT
#1034
Lizard Spirit's AD and Eve's ratios let her deal almost as much damage from Q and E than she'd get with Wraith Spirit's AP, and she gets the hp5 and AD (clears faster with autos and E's steroid so less HP lost) which more than make up for the spellvamp which she only applies in AoE anyway, imo. And even after the nerfs, the burn is still decent dps.
I'd say Golem Spirit if you really need to build tanky, but if you can afford damage shoot for Lizard Spirit.

On August 02 2013 01:27 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 19:19 Amui wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +


Highlights from OGN Ro16. Faker pretty good player, Malphite ori is pretty good, etc.

Things you learn from watching OGN.
-Madlife is a god
-Faker is pretty good.
-Insec can hit Malphite ulti's.
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2013 00:50 Ketara wrote:
You know I'm sure you guys have noticed this already, but at about 35% CDR, newYi gets full Alpha Strike resets on assists in addition to kills.

Actually it's a little less than 35% CDR, cuz skill goes on cooldown upon cast; the spell duration is like .5~1 sec depending on how far apart people are.

It's a set 1 second now, though.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 17:30:52
August 01 2013 17:26 GMT
#1035
I've missed 2 pentas with master yi because I run out of mana after getting the quadra. Thats fuckin stupid. The guy isn't OP i swear.
Jaedong :3
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
August 01 2013 17:28 GMT
#1036
On August 02 2013 00:40 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2013 00:23 Nos- wrote:
Faker's legit as fuck

To continue my tradition of deep, insightful analysis of OGN, Faker is pretty good.

You disonah tha famiry. Day's rike dis are why I drink.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
August 01 2013 18:03 GMT
#1037
On August 02 2013 02:14 kongoline wrote:
voli sup seems like an interesting idea, still lee support is my favourite

Played a Voli sup a few months back.

Was playing a Vayne, so idc.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
August 01 2013 18:09 GMT
#1038
Brb, making unconventional support tier list
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
August 01 2013 18:09 GMT
#1039
On August 01 2013 22:05 Slayer91 wrote:
we need to come up with dnd style racial advantages for european countries why did nobody think of this before

These are some things Czech Republic thinks it is famous for
+4 stealing
male: +4 brewing
female: +2 charisma
Feat: Defeatists Hatred: get hatred damage bonus against all nationalities that conquered your country in the past.
Special skill (Dimplomacy): Defenestration

"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23442 Posts
August 01 2013 18:17 GMT
#1040
that explains why you always want revenge on entenzwerg for beating you that one time
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