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WiseBagus
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada452 Posts
August 01 2013 18:26 GMT
#1041
On August 02 2013 03:09 ticklishmusic wrote:
Brb, making unconventional support tier list

I look forward to this.

My friend and I have been using Lissandra support (Max W) with Quinn and Caitlyn. Makes it EZPZ to trade after 6, even before that her Q and W poke is nice. Her ult is a nice lockdown on the enemy priority champ. I think she functions like fiddle with a global taunt, everyone likes to jump on her after she claws in.
"When you come at the King, you best not miss"
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
August 01 2013 18:38 GMT
#1042
Sivir's free so I picked her while leveling a smurf (AD being my worst role by far, even had trouble cs-ing because of duo farmers and lack of runes x) ), enemy botlane was a beginner premade with a level 25 dude with runes playing Vayne.
It's so disheartening how faceroll Vayne gets when somebody feeds her (a particularly ragey beginner Kayle with me, suicided thrice pretty early, at least once out of spite at somebody), she's got so much damage that being played by a beginner doesn't matter, when she's got her BotRK she's just got to pop ult and get kills in any lane.

I can only begin to fathom how annoying it must be at higher levels, when people actually have good Tumble and kiting mechanics and stuff. :| Glad I've been banning her for a bit.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
August 01 2013 18:43 GMT
#1043
Yeah Vayne is a regular ban for me now.

Fuck Vayne.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
August 01 2013 18:43 GMT
#1044
On August 02 2013 03:38 Alaric wrote:
Sivir's free so I picked her while leveling a smurf (AD being my worst role by far, even had trouble cs-ing because of duo farmers and lack of runes x) ), enemy botlane was a beginner premade with a level 25 dude with runes playing Vayne.
It's so disheartening how faceroll Vayne gets when somebody feeds her (a particularly ragey beginner Kayle with me, suicided thrice pretty early, at least once out of spite at somebody), she's got so much damage that being played by a beginner doesn't matter, when she's got her BotRK she's just got to pop ult and get kills in any lane.

I can only begin to fathom how annoying it must be at higher levels, when people actually have good Tumble and kiting mechanics and stuff. :| Glad I've been banning her for a bit.


I think a problem with Vayne is not just that eventually she can dish out enough damage to kill anyone. I think a major part of the problem is that often times a team comp just can't kill Vayne. Vayne has enough anti gap closers and gap closers that depending on the comp, there are many times when a noob Vayne free farms into being able to take out whole teams. And since solo queue is chancey, theres many a times that this happens and then Vayne has the image of being ridiculous lategame (which she is).
Jaedong :3
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
August 01 2013 18:44 GMT
#1045
On August 02 2013 03:43 Ketara wrote:
Yeah Vayne is a regular ban for me now.

Fuck Vayne.

Just pick any high-burst low-range champion and laugh. Annie, Kayle, Ryze, they all forbid Vayne to do anything in teamfights if she's not incredibly fed.
The legend of Darien lives on
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
August 01 2013 18:47 GMT
#1046
On August 02 2013 03:44 mr_tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2013 03:43 Ketara wrote:
Yeah Vayne is a regular ban for me now.

Fuck Vayne.

Just pick any high-burst low-range champion and laugh. Annie, Kayle, Ryze, they all forbid Vayne to do anything in teamfights if she's not incredibly fed.


Mangar
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 18:51:31
August 01 2013 18:51 GMT
#1047
xin zhao vi
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
August 01 2013 18:53 GMT
#1048
Xin is pretty terrible vs vayne.Vi is nice.Real problem with vayne is she just gets too much shit for free.There is no other champ that gets so much mobility and damage just with abilites.Her range is supposed to be her weakness yet it isn't even bad.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 18:58:32
August 01 2013 18:56 GMT
#1049
why
i got more xin games than u got vayne gg my experience is more conclusive
Badboyrune
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2247 Posts
August 01 2013 18:57 GMT
#1050
I think tristana might disagree.
"If yellow does start SC2, I should start handsomenerd diaper busniess and become a rich man" - John the Translator
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
August 01 2013 18:57 GMT
#1051
Also, Vayne guarantees that she'll kill anyone within a certain number of shots with her W.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
August 01 2013 18:58 GMT
#1052
Nafta shows up to say Xin is bad the moment someone brings him up lol
Carrilord has arrived.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 19:01:14
August 01 2013 18:58 GMT
#1053
If vayne just condemns your gapcloser what exactly do you do vs her?Considering how obvious it is it is VERY easy.Even if she somehow can't do it you have bork/tumble.

edit:Damn.I surrender this argument.I am wrong.You won kind sir.

To be fair xin is pretty terrible.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 01 2013 18:59 GMT
#1054
On August 02 2013 03:57 ticklishmusic wrote:
Also, Vayne guarantees that she'll kill anyone within a certain number of shots with her W.

Sorry I just found this sentence so ambiguous and hilarious.
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
August 01 2013 19:01 GMT
#1055
Vayne and Yi every game (sometimes both on both teams) when leveling the smurf makes for pretty dull games. Can't even try random shit, game's over by 10 minutes depending on whose got the most kills. I can get why the game is frustrating for beginners.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Lysteria
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
France2280 Posts
August 01 2013 19:01 GMT
#1056
On August 02 2013 03:57 ticklishmusic wrote:
Also, Vayne guarantees that she'll kill anyone within a certain number of shots with her W.


Now I want the list of champions that can't kill.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
August 01 2013 19:01 GMT
#1057
to be fair Yi was in every game <lvl10 pre Yimake
Carrilord has arrived.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 01 2013 19:03 GMT
#1058
On August 01 2013 17:01 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 16:03 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
On August 01 2013 15:52 WaveofShadow wrote:
Guys, obvious troll at this point.
Stop responding and wait for darkness to take hold.

Srry Wave, but the past few pages have been way too peaceful and lighthearted. We needed someone to level our heads again.

That person was Stupidity.

Through all of the trials TL LoL has gone through today, through all of the Ohmwrecker hate, the champion theme discussion, even that really disconcerting nostalgia phase of those last few pages, we were losing our way. We were just wandering the forests of productive, informative, and insightful discussion backed up by solid facts, long paragraphs of reasoning, and even some small reconciliation between people arguing. We were off of our path, and we couldn't see the light. It might have been a good few hours before we decided to collectively hate something.

Not until one man decided to shoulder the hate on his back and bring TL LoL back into it's Sports/Games-Subforum Promised Land. He'll take your hate. He'll take your pain. Because, dammit, Stupidity loves TL LoL, and he'll do whatever it takes to make sure the land he loves stays pristine and pure.

So Thank You, Stupidity, from a typically passive admirer of your tear-enducing heroics for the sake of the thread.

... My posting quality has really gone down the toilet today :|

EDIT: Oh rofl, I finish typing and there's a full page of buffer from that comment. You guys really smelled blood there, lol


How many of us actually read almost all of this thread, skipping the occasional topic that doesn't interest us (for me, pro drama/team switches etc)? It's a fucking ton of content, I'm amazed at how many of us regular posters seem to be keeping up with almost all of it.

I have every TL LoL GD subscribed and every morning, I just strat off from where I last left off. There are some threads, LR in particular (e.g. OGN) where I'll skip near the end just to check the results. But for the most part, I read it all. o/

On August 01 2013 17:52 Vei wrote:
Anyone who has played Aatrox a good chunk have any opinions on what matchups he's a terrible pick in, and what ones are even?

From my limited experience with Aatrox, he excels against AD auto attackers. He has limited CC, so if the enemy tries to stand and fight, you will usually out DPS them with your ultimate. Played as and against Aatrov v Rengar and I feel like he (Aatrox) wins that match up.

On August 01 2013 18:12 De4ngus wrote:
I went straight from diamond 5 - 2. From what I've seen, its possible to skip up to 4 divisions in every tier except diamond.

Subtle brag. Plz stop dodging me, thx Gandhisauce.

On August 01 2013 21:21 ExoFun wrote:
Also what is do you mean with this darkness thingy? finally done with the 50 pages in ALL <3 never stop reading when your in 13 of 20 pages before sleeping because these damn topics are growing dem to fast but it was good(except the troll)

Show nested quote +
Also Neo I may steal the darkness thing for an upcoming mafia game I'll be hosting in the Mafia subforum.

Check the last page of the old GD. ^^

On August 01 2013 22:47 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 15:45 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
On August 01 2013 15:39 Stupidity wrote:
On August 01 2013 15:38 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 01 2013 15:36 Stupidity wrote:
Hi guys, quick question. I'm a masters level SC2 player trying to make the transition to League right now but am getting stuck with a bunch of idiots on my team every game. What I don't understand is how everyone is so toxic in this game. Even some of the streamers I see here are really stupid and make shit plays but won't admit them. Why is that? I'm stuck in silver right now because every time I die, my team calls me a noob and just AFKs or does something stupid. I can't play the champions I want to play (Teams won't let me play Karma, even though I've seen pro players pick her) because they just say I'm stupid and bad.

How do I get myself out? In SC2, it was always just me vs. the other guy. Here I have to babysit and take care of 4 stupid kids every single game while putting up with all this shit. All League players seem to be very toxic and it's just a very bad environment. I don't understand because these people are not only bad, but they can't admit their own mistakes, and they blame others. I read threads in this forum and the ones in the QQ thread basically sum up League of Legends as a whole. A toxic community full of toxic players. I know I'm better than everyone here, I just feel very restricted because others are dragging me down. I've tried watching some people stream, but there are rarely any good streamers here on TL, and most of them are toxic too. Even players like Destiny are what I consider toxic players. Why do you people put up with incorrect theorycrafting and just overall bad play and bad ideas?

What do you think? I'm sure others here experience the same thing. What do you suggest I do?

the post and name fits so damn well.

Perfect example of what I'm talking about. I'm trying to ask for help and I get this idiot berating me for no reason.

Maybe being so defensive after asking for help is one of the reasons you feel like everybody is dumb and is picking on you >.>

Honestly I've found that in most cases, what you give is what you get. I thought silver was a fucking den of vipers until I had an epiphany (aka playing Katawa Shoujo) and just decided to be a bro in game. Turns out that everyone is emotionally inconsistent and will, for the most part, match the vibe you set in game. Stop thinking "I know I'm better than everyone else here" because that's what everyone else thinks and it gets you absolutely nowhere. So having that kind of mindset is solo-queue suicide.

TLDR just be nice

TLDR Katawa Shoujo changes lives for the better <3

Honestly tho, I have noticed (and I'm sure my stream viewers have as well) a huge difference in my overall skill level and victory percentage based on my attitude. I'm pretty sold on the fact that this game is like 80% mindset at minimum, even with my last hitting I can win lanes and games when I'm not breaking my fist on the wall.

Just gotta relax~ + Show Spoiler +

Lilly path, best path.

On August 02 2013 03:51 Slayer91 wrote:
xin zhao vi

Vi is the anti-Vayne imo. Does anything else remember the MRN v CLG game from last split? Holy shit, ClakeyD was so relevant that game. Just press R on Doublelift's Vayne, win team fight.
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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 19:07:48
August 01 2013 19:03 GMT
#1059
On August 02 2013 03:58 nafta wrote:
If vayne just condemns your gapcloser what exactly do you do vs her?Considering how obvious it is it is VERY easy.Even if she somehow can't do it you have bork/tumble.

edit:Damn.I surrender this argument.I am wrong.You won kind sir.

To be fair xin is pretty terrible.



well you can get rapped in 1v1 but in teamfights assuming u got close to max cdr since your e outranges vaynes e and vayne cant b sure when you go in on her (usually you time it after she tumbles in to hit omething though) you get E R(if it wasnt used already) and 1-2 q hits before condemn lands and then you can either back off (E should have 3-4 seconds only of cd) or like flash in to hit the knock up and if she flashes away your e will be back up and next Q cd you can kill her

ideally you want ur team to follow up on the knockup and make things simpler if vayne is fed or somethign

xin isnt evne close to terrible wtf he's so fucking strong it doenst even make sense how much damage he does

keep in mind 40% cdr xin has 3 second q and e (if u hit all 3 hits of q) cd and q comes off pretty fast with W up (obviously q cd starts when you finish the knockup but 1 second knock up combined with your e slow usually enough to make up for that because ur e is 2 second slow and knockup is 1 second after cd starts)
you want either randuins or ghostblade to counterbalance the op shit that is botrk
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 19:06:41
August 01 2013 19:04 GMT
#1060
On August 02 2013 04:01 Slusher wrote:
to be fair Yi was in every game <lvl10 pre Yimake

I feel like there are a lot of people who play Yi at low levels because he is easy to lane with as AP yi vs a plethora of aps.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
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