EPT[Patch 3.10: Yimake Patch] General Discussion - Page 19
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
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Vanka
China1336 Posts
On August 01 2013 01:25 Requizen wrote: I know BotRK is good and all, but why get it on him over a big AD item? BT/IE/Hydra will give him super amounts of AD (and therefore damage on autos and Q), which translates to high amounts of true damage on E. You don't really need the slow active considering how fast R moves, and if the enemy has any sense you're not going to sit and wail on them for 10+ auto attacks. an one stop shop for lifesteal + attack speed on top of a fantastic active is just so strong on almost everyone who does autoattacking. It costs the same as BT (less than ie), avoids the horrible try-to-save-up-for-a-bf phase of the game, and provides a laning item better than anything in BT/IE's build path. Hydra isn't necessary if shiv can be your go-to wave clear item either. You should buy IE or BT if you're snowballing, but otherwise the BF sword is too big a hurdle for a first item/laning phase. Also guys this is finally a chance to use mercurial schimitar's movespeed boost after cleanse, maybe some of you should use it lol. | ||
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
He needs raw AD and Crit, that's it. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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clickrush
Switzerland3257 Posts
- tenacity (autoattacker) - ad (high synergy with q, e, r) - cdr (high synergy with q, decent rest) -> similar to skarner/ryze/xin, each second you gain from passive is gonna be worth more the more cdr you have. - armor/resistance -> prioritize this over arpen against squishy targets generally quite a chunk more than you would get on pure mobile, burst assassins like zed/kha. - arpen -> prioritize this over defense against tanky targets - lifesteal -> as soon as there are sufficient resistances you gotta get lifesteal to scale them up along with your kit. lifesteal is like the synergy glue between defense and yi's kit. nice to have secondary stats: - as > crit - hp So in the end I'd experiment with items like: BC, visage, BT/Hydra/Botrk, FH, Zephyr, Shiv/PD, LW, GB (<- this one will work very well i think because so cheap and very high synergy), hexdrinker | ||
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SagaZ
France3460 Posts
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
On August 01 2013 01:09 Ketara wrote: Hmm, very first game since the patch I have a Master Yi top. Am suspicious, >.> Thoughts from game: New Yi looks cool Our Vayne still went 19/0 after nerfs building BotRK > Zephyr > Shiv | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
On August 01 2013 01:37 mr_tolkien wrote: BotrK is terribad on new Yi. He needs raw AD and Crit, that's it. ie warmogs atmas np | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On August 01 2013 01:36 Vanka wrote: an one stop shop for lifesteal + attack speed on top of a fantastic active is just so strong on almost everyone who does autoattacking. It costs the same as BT (less than ie), avoids the horrible try-to-save-up-for-a-bf phase of the game, and provides a laning item better than anything in BT/IE's build path. Hydra isn't necessary if shiv can be your go-to wave clear item either. You should buy IE or BT if you're snowballing, but otherwise the BF sword is too big a hurdle for a first item/laning phase. Also guys this is finally a chance to use mercurial schimitar's movespeed boost after cleanse, maybe some of you should use it lol. Except Shiv won't nearly give you as much waveclear power as Hydra, both the proc is stronger and it's making your Alphas stronger with the AD. Crit/Alpha CDR sure, but not a good comparison imo. Probably would go Zephyr or PD over it any game of the day. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
Seems like it gives him all his things. AD, Arpen, crit, CDR, and the active can combo with his E active. | ||
onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On August 01 2013 01:50 Ketara wrote: Thoughts from game: New Yi looks cool Our Vayne still went 19/0 after nerfs building BotRK > Zephyr > Shiv Yeah, if she gets fed she's still going to be a monster, the nerfs were just to make it a little for her to get fed. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
On August 01 2013 01:57 Ketara wrote: Would Ghostblade be pretty good on new Yi? Seems like it gives him all his things. AD, Arpen, crit, CDR, and the active can combo with his E active. ghostblaade ie warmogs atmas np like 60% crit so beastly then finish with GA or LW | ||
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Dusty
United States3359 Posts
-Lots of free AD -Lots of free Crit Yi gets: -Lots of attackspeed -A skill that scales with Crit -A steroid that scales with AD Trynd gets bork because that synergizes with the free ad and crit, same with shiv. Another reason Trynd is strong is because the bork active allows him to keep hitting people by staying next to them, which used to be one of his problems Yi should probably be buying BT + Shiv because he scales with what those two items provide more than trynd, and he especially doesn't "need" the bork active because his ult allows him to stay in range of his targets. | ||
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SagaZ
France3460 Posts
Reset city! | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
On August 01 2013 01:59 onlywonderboy wrote: Yeah, if she gets fed she's still going to be a monster, the nerfs were just to make it a little for her to get fed. It really wasn't Vayne, I was Leona and their Janna was misplaying it, being way too aggro and letting me stunlock her for Vayne to kill. Once Vayne was like 4/0 from that there wasn't any stopping her at that point. But still, new Yi looks really really cool. I was able to finish the game with Ruby Sightstone, Locket, Shurelya and Ninja Tabi and felt pretty tanky on Leona too, though I was getting lots of Vayne assists. Edit: I think rather than finish Shurelya what I might do is get a Kindlegem, then a second Ruby Crystal, then wait until I can finish Shurelya and immediately rebuy the Kindlegem at the same time, which is kinda sad. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On August 01 2013 02:00 Dusty wrote: People are saying to get bork + shiv like Trynd? But if we look at it, Trynd gets: -Lots of free AD -Lots of free Crit Yi gets: -Lots of attackspeed -A skill that scales with Crit -A steroid that scales with AD Trynd gets bork because that synergizes with the free ad and crit, same with shiv. Another reason Trynd is strong is because the bork active allows him to keep hitting people by staying next to them, which used to be one of his problems Yi should probably be buying BT + Shiv because he scales with what those two items provide more than trynd, and he especially doesn't "need" the bork active because his ult allows him to stay in range of his targets. I would say Zephyr over Shiv, as CC is your bane and you don't particularly need the proc. Also CDR and AD feels stronger than the crit overall, imo, unless you're planning on adding more crit in an IE or Ghostblade or something. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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Mauzel
United States421 Posts
GUYS YOU ARE MISSING THE MOST IMPORTANT CHANGE. On July 31 2013 07:09 NeoIllusions wrote: Champions that waste basic attacks or abilities on damage nullifying shields or absorption shields without breaking the shield (Kayle's Intervention, Poppy's Diplomatic Immunity, Morgana's Black Shield, Barrier, etc) will now be properly granted assists if that champion dies within the appropriate time frame | ||
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Kyrie
1594 Posts
On August 01 2013 02:11 Mauzel wrote: WHO CARES ABOUT YI. GUYS YOU ARE MISSING THE MOST IMPORTANT CHANGE. huge poppy nerf | ||
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