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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
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Simberto
Germany11402 Posts
On July 20 2013 01:28 Nos- wrote: There are some bosses where you would like to summon for help though, if you're playing solo Smough and Ornstein is pretty hard for your first play through. Summoning blue phantoms for moonlight butterfly and a few other fights would also be useful (4 kings for example) Yeah, but that is the point of the game to me. Sure, you will die lots and lots of times against those guys. But you learn more and more each time. And then you finally beat them, and it is sweet. Summoning some guy to basically easymode that stuff after you died to it 50 times takes everything out of that victory and makes it hollow. I died to O&S. A lot. I also died to them a lot when i did my SL1 run. But i never even thought about summoning someone there, since i wanted to KILL THOSE BASTARDS. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On July 20 2013 01:28 Nos- wrote: There are some bosses where you would like to summon for help though, if you're playing solo Smough and Ornstein is pretty hard for your first play through. Summoning blue phantoms for moonlight butterfly and a few other fights would also be useful (4 kings for example) I have no idea what you guys are talking about here but it REALLY makes me want to play.  Only a month to go until I have a real computer again! I have to buy a controller for this, right? (And to answer your earlier question I have no fucking clue. My wife asks me that all the time. Maybe some unconscious desire to force myself to be a good parent?) | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On July 20 2013 01:10 onlywonderboy wrote: Oh yeah, hadn't consider IWBTG, must have been trying to repress the memory. ITWBTG is stupid. It's hard, but a lot of times it's only hard because you just don't know what in a certain room is going to kill you until it does a dozen times. You have to die twenty times in some rooms just to finally see the solution, that doesn't make a good game imo. | ||
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Simberto
Germany11402 Posts
On July 20 2013 01:32 WaveofShadow wrote: I have no idea what you guys are talking about here but it REALLY makes me want to play. Only a month to go until I have a real computer again! I have to buy a controller for this, right? (And to answer your earlier question I have no fucking clue. My wife asks me that all the time. Maybe some unconscious desire to force myself to be a good parent?) You really should get a controller. Apparently some very few people play with keyboard and mouse, but almost everyone agrees that a controller just works a lot better with this game. Also, one thing you can easily miss on your first playthrough is the additional content. If you reach the final boss (it is obvious that he is) look up the additional content, because you probably haven't found it since it is absurdly hidden. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On July 20 2013 01:33 Requizen wrote: ITWBTG is stupid. It's hard, but a lot of times it's only hard because you just don't know what in a certain room is going to kill you until it does a dozen times. You have to die twenty times in some rooms just to finally see the solution, that doesn't make a good game imo. I agree with this. Artificial difficulty isn't fun, imo. If a game is literally impossible to beat your first time through simply due to lack of knowledge then it's not true difficulty. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On July 20 2013 01:35 Simberto wrote: You really should get a controller. Apparently some very few people play with keyboard and mouse, but almost everyone agrees that a controller just works a lot better with this game. Also, one thing you can easily miss on your first playthrough is the additional content. If you reach the final boss (it is obvious that he is) look up the additional content, because you probably haven't found it since it is absurdly hidden. The only genres that I prefer a mouse/keyboard are MOBA/RTS. Everything else feels better with a controller. FPS is a bit of a toss up, controller is more comfortable for long sessions, but keyboard/mouse is better for precision and skill. | ||
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Kyrie
1594 Posts
On July 20 2013 01:08 Lysteria wrote: The game is really good, not that hard to complete - a little bit easier than Super Meat Boy dark world I would say - but really hard to complete 100%, aka finish each and every level with the double S rank (no death and you have to gather all traces of dust without breaking your combo even once) to unlock some sort of extra mega hard levels. The gameplay itself is really rewarding, especially if you have good mechanics. A lot of dashes, spike jumps, possibility to gain a shit tons of speed... But yeah, as much as Super Meat Boy is doable with a keyboard, Dustforce is way harder with it. Doable, but harder. Marksel, one of the top Dustforce players, is playing with a keyboard if I'm not mistaken. Edit: Dustforce musics are on par with SMB musics btw. the dustforce soundtrack is what got me to play the game at first, it's good enough that i still listen to it outside of the game the perfect clear bonus 'difficult' levels are preposterously hard, while the earlier levels are something like this. here's a full clear speedrun for those with the time and interest to see the game in more detail. there's a ton of replay value if you're trying for SS (perfect) clears or leaderboard placement, and the game's music/visuals are so relaxing that restarting runs over and over to get a certain section down doesn't get too frustrating. it's worth picking up for fans of the genre even if not on sale, the full price is around $10, a bit more with ost album which i also recommend for those who enjoy chiptunes | ||
onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On July 20 2013 01:35 WaveofShadow wrote: I agree with this. Artificial difficulty isn't fun, imo. If a game is literally impossible to beat your first time through simply due to lack of knowledge then it's not true difficulty. Normally I would agree, but that's sort of the point of IWBTG. The guy set out to make a really hard game, not a fair one. If you're playing the game you're probably already aware of what you're getting yourself into. Plus all of the Nintendo stuff is pretty silly and makes it bearable. Finally beating a really hard section is incredibly satisfying. Edit: Also the game requires a lot of twitch reflexes which is real difficulty. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On July 20 2013 01:32 WaveofShadow wrote: I have no idea what you guys are talking about here but it REALLY makes me want to play. Only a month to go until I have a real computer again! I have to buy a controller for this, right? (And to answer your earlier question I have no fucking clue. My wife asks me that all the time. Maybe some unconscious desire to force myself to be a good parent?) Raising a kid's easy yo. It's like casting for a noob audience, except you teach him life instead of only a game. I think. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On July 20 2013 01:37 Ketara wrote: Wave, come to Worlds. Bring the kid. I wish. I can't see myself ever really having time (or money) for this kind of thing ever again, really. I went to Blizzcon once on a whim, and that was fun, but the time for that kind of stuff is over. For now, at least. | ||
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Lysteria
France2279 Posts
On July 20 2013 01:38 Clinic wrote: there's a ton of replay value if you're trying for SS (perfect) clears or leaderboard placement, and the game's music/visuals are so relaxing that restarting runs over and over to get a certain section down doesn't get too frustrating. That's true, I forgot to mention it's possible to watch the replays easily in the game. And the checkpoint system is well made for those who aren't fond of going for a 100%. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On July 20 2013 01:46 WaveofShadow wrote: Sword and Sworcery was a weird game. I'm not even sure it WAS a game. I wish. I can't see myself ever really having time (or money) for this kind of thing ever again, really. I went to Blizzcon once on a whim, and that was fun, but the time for that kind of stuff is over. For now, at least. I got it in an old Bundle, haven't played it. But I got the OST with it and the music is just like really good. Go with me to a kpop concert next month :3 | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On July 20 2013 01:57 WaveofShadow wrote: You people all seem to forget I don't live in the same friggin country as you. Worth to see SNSD and/or f(x) live | ||
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
On July 20 2013 01:57 WaveofShadow wrote: You people all seem to forget I don't live in the same friggin country as you. I thought Canada was like our hat or some shit so was kind of part of us. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
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-Zoda-
France3578 Posts
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