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zodde
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benefluence
United States158 Posts
On July 19 2013 14:09 ETisME wrote: Anyone thinks Rengar rework is going the wrong direction? For now it's a one shot adc plus anything else is just bonus but the direction they are going it with seems to make it a more fighter based champion which we have others already. What do you think is the right direction, considering 'one shotting the ADC' is something Riot wants to get rid of? | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On July 19 2013 14:09 ETisME wrote: Anyone thinks Rengar rework is going the wrong direction? For now it's a one shot adc plus anything else is just bonus but the direction they are going it with seems to make it a more fighter based champion which we have others already. No. All one-shot champs should be eliminated. Right now he is just a snowball-dependent Zed with stealth and a heal, such a champion is stupid to even try to balance. They should try to make him into a weak Jax/Irelia, with bush power. Otherwise he will be unbalanceable into eternity. | ||
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On July 19 2013 14:13 zodde wrote: What's the general consensus on #1 blind monk skin? On July 19 2013 14:21 FinestHour wrote: bruce lee with sunglasses This man knows whats up. It doesn't really matter how he looks though because Lee Sin is blind. | ||
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ETisME
12632 Posts
On July 19 2013 14:14 benefluence wrote: What do you think is the right direction, considering 'one shotting the ADC' is something Riot wants to get rid of? Well I don't know since I have only played lol for 3 months casually but isn't that the role of assassin? To kill the adc and the squishy for the team quickly. The change seems to make him a fighter instead. Rengar don't have any gap closing skill except the passive which is locational based and the ultimate which is just stealth. | ||
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UniversalSnip
9871 Posts
On July 19 2013 14:13 zodde wrote: What's the general consensus on #1 blind monk skin? vanilla. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On July 19 2013 14:29 ETisME wrote: Well I don't know since I have only played lol for 3 months casually but isn't that the role of assassin? To kill the adc and the squishy for the team quickly. The change seems to make him a fighter instead. Rengar don't have any gap closing skill except the passive which is locational based and the ultimate which is just stealth. The thing is, an assassin, particularly a melle assassin, really has no place in LOL. They are way too binary + the ability to trade Champ X for Champ Y, is incredibly strong in this game when you get to choose who dies. Basically, Assassin Rengar, when doing his job says "We are trading your #1 priority champ for our #3 priority champ", thus, not balanced no matter what you tweak. | ||
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Mauzel
United States421 Posts
it would have to be a support hero so now you can have team invisible Top: Rengar Mid: Eve Jungle: Shaco Bot: Twitch + Invisible person. that hero + rengar => rengar can jump all he wants. TBH the invisibility should probably be an ulti like rengars | ||
onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On July 19 2013 14:15 cLutZ wrote: No. All one-shot champs should be eliminated. Right now he is just a snowball-dependent Zed with stealth and a heal, such a champion is stupid to even try to balance. They should try to make him into a weak Jax/Irelia, with bush power. Otherwise he will be unbalanceable into eternity. Does that include Kass? I think one-shot champs (read assassins) are fine as long as their laning phase is weak enough. As long as they don't do a lot in a team fight aside from assassinating one target I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with them. They are certainly not fun to play against if they get fed though. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On July 19 2013 14:15 cLutZ wrote: No. All one-shot champs should be eliminated. Right now he is just a snowball-dependent Zed with stealth and a heal, such a champion is stupid to even try to balance. They should try to make him into a weak Jax/Irelia, with bush power. Otherwise he will be unbalanceable into eternity. But I like poppy.  | ||
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ETisME
12632 Posts
On July 19 2013 14:38 cLutZ wrote: The thing is, an assassin, particularly a melle assassin, really has no place in LOL. They are way too binary + the ability to trade Champ X for Champ Y, is incredibly strong in this game when you get to choose who dies. Basically, Assassin Rengar, when doing his job says "We are trading your #1 priority champ for our #3 priority champ", thus, not balanced no matter what you tweak. Imho I think it's more because the most viable adc are ranged champions and so getting one shot is not becauseof they are too strong but rather the adc is too squishy. | ||
GTR
51518 Posts
http://www.twitch.tv/aclprolol/popout and these amateur teams blow balls at how to draft properly. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On July 19 2013 14:40 onlywonderboy wrote: Does that include Kass? I think one-shot champs (read assassins) are fine as long as their laning phase is weak enough. As long as they don't do a lot in a team fight aside from assassinating one target I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with them. They are certainly not fun to play against if they get fed though. Kass is basically the fringe case. In spite of him being an "assassin" and "melle" he really is more of a mobility mage. His combo is 280x2 + 70%APx2 + (maybe) 80+80%AP. The thing that makes him not ENTIRELY stupid is that he rarely is in AA range of targets, and his AA is really not that great, even with W activated. Kassadin does have the terrible laning phase you are talking about, luckily, but Riot doesn't make champs with terrible laning phases anymore, so that makes the archetype you are talking about irrelevant. Example: For his current assassination potential, the typical Zed should have less than half the CS they currently do at the 10 minute mark. On July 19 2013 14:48 ETisME wrote: Imho I think it's more because the most viable adc are ranged champions and so getting one shot is not becauseof they are too strong but rather the adc is too squishy. The game is balanced around the ADC being X amount of squishy. If we allow assassins to assassinate on the level that Rengar/etc players want, every defensive item in the game would have to be nerfed. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On July 19 2013 15:03 GTR wrote: Watching Oceania S3 Finals here http://www.twitch.tv/aclprolol/popout and these amateur teams blow balls at how to draft properly. They just got their server like a couple weeks ago; jeez take it easy before you tear them a new one. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
On July 19 2013 14:21 FinestHour wrote: bruce lee with sunglasses QFT | ||
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Infundibulum
United States2552 Posts
On July 19 2013 15:03 GTR wrote: Watching Oceania S3 Finals here http://www.twitch.tv/aclprolol/popout and these amateur teams blow balls at how to draft properly. For some reason it is very pleasing to say that teams' name "FIGJAM." I suggest you try it. | ||
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IMoperator
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Gahlo
United States35165 Posts
On July 19 2013 16:38 IMoperator wrote: oh god im going against a diamond 5 syndra as ahri. wish me luck Div 5, 30% chance they got boosted and suck ass. | ||
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