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FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
July 19 2013 08:03 GMT
#2881
vayne is like the curse of gold
when shes on ur team u lose
when shes on enemy team u lose too
how to win
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-19 08:06:33
July 19 2013 08:06 GMT
#2882
ban it

that's basically what I did with shaco when he was popular
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
July 19 2013 08:08 GMT
#2883
On July 19 2013 16:40 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2013 16:38 IMoperator wrote:
oh god im going against a diamond 5 syndra as ahri. wish me luck

Div 5, 30% chance they got boosted and suck ass.

yay we won :D I got kinda carried though, our bot lane trashed theirs. I ended up 4/1/6 with most farm in game though, so not too bad.
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-19 08:29:07
July 19 2013 08:18 GMT
#2884
On July 19 2013 12:32 WiseBagus wrote:
Is there anyone who goes over tournament games or a really analytical caster i can watch to at least steal form the pros and know a little bit about why?

Do you speak French ?

EDIT : After all this talk, I've been building Wriggles on my junglers to see. I kinda like it, the stats are really good for the price. 25 AD is nothing to scoff at (~1k gold worth of AD), as well as 15% LS.
It worked pretty well with Shyv and Noct.
The legend of Darien lives on
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-19 08:52:15
July 19 2013 08:49 GMT
#2885
On July 19 2013 17:06 Ryuu314 wrote:
ban it

that's basically what I did with shaco when he was popular


yep. my bans are now nunu/trynd/vayne for the same reason.

On July 19 2013 15:03 GTR wrote:
Watching Oceania S3 Finals here
http://www.twitch.tv/aclprolol/popout

and these amateur teams blow balls at how to draft properly.


Both Immunity and x5 eclipse are on a higher level than the rest.
That series should be way better
Liquipedia"Expert"
LeeDawg
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1306 Posts
July 19 2013 08:58 GMT
#2886
On July 19 2013 17:18 mr_tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2013 12:32 WiseBagus wrote:
Is there anyone who goes over tournament games or a really analytical caster i can watch to at least steal form the pros and know a little bit about why?

Do you speak French ?

EDIT : After all this talk, I've been building Wriggles on my junglers to see. I kinda like it, the stats are really good for the price. 25 AD is nothing to scoff at (~1k gold worth of AD), as well as 15% LS.
It worked pretty well with Shyv and Noct.


i thought wriggles was standard on shyv and noct?

i don't play or own either so i don't know, but i was under the impression that shit was how you did it
:-)
eagle
Profile Joined April 2009
United States693 Posts
July 19 2013 08:58 GMT
#2887
On July 19 2013 14:13 zodde wrote:
What's the general consensus on #1 blind monk skin?


the hood one
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
July 19 2013 08:58 GMT
#2888
Just putting this out there, but if Alistar got buffed, would that be an indirect nerf to assassins like rengar and zed?
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-19 09:06:46
July 19 2013 09:05 GMT
#2889
On July 19 2013 17:58 Dark_Chill wrote:
Just putting this out there, but if Alistar got buffed, would that be an indirect nerf to assassins like rengar and zed?


no. his peeling really isn't that good. EDIT: I don't mean it's bad, but it's nothing special.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 19 2013 09:06 GMT
#2890
On July 19 2013 18:05 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2013 17:58 Dark_Chill wrote:
Just putting this out there, but if Alistar got buffed, would that be an indirect nerf to assassins like rengar and zed?


no. his peeling really isn't that good

Why Alistar when you have Nami?
liftlift > tsm
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
July 19 2013 09:12 GMT
#2891
On July 19 2013 18:06 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2013 18:05 UniversalSnip wrote:
On July 19 2013 17:58 Dark_Chill wrote:
Just putting this out there, but if Alistar got buffed, would that be an indirect nerf to assassins like rengar and zed?


no. his peeling really isn't that good

Why Alistar when you have Nami?


well if you are trying to peel rengar or zed you def want ali over nami, bubble too delayed when they jump your carry

there are already leona and blitz/thresh and lulu all peel just as fast and well as ali though
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 19 2013 09:15 GMT
#2892
On July 19 2013 18:12 sob3k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2013 18:06 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 19 2013 18:05 UniversalSnip wrote:
On July 19 2013 17:58 Dark_Chill wrote:
Just putting this out there, but if Alistar got buffed, would that be an indirect nerf to assassins like rengar and zed?


no. his peeling really isn't that good

Why Alistar when you have Nami?


well if you are trying to peel rengar or zed you def want ali over nami, bubble too delayed when they jump your carry

there are already leona and blitz/thresh and lulu all peel just as fast and well as ali though

Well you're never going to stop Zed or Rengar from jumping; but with Nami you can punish them and peel off just as hard as Alistar/Leona/Blitz/Thresh.
liftlift > tsm
FR4CT4L
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia697 Posts
July 19 2013 09:22 GMT
#2893
On July 19 2013 17:49 Inflicted_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2013 17:06 Ryuu314 wrote:
ban it

that's basically what I did with shaco when he was popular


yep. my bans are now nunu/trynd/vayne for the same reason.

Show nested quote +
On July 19 2013 15:03 GTR wrote:
Watching Oceania S3 Finals here
http://www.twitch.tv/aclprolol/popout

and these amateur teams blow balls at how to draft properly.


Both Immunity and x5 eclipse are on a higher level than the rest.
That series should be way better


That might be the case but I wouldn't get anyone's hopes up for an actual high level game. The last time I watched Immunity in a finals they had the game won at 30 minutes then spent 60 additional minutes not doing anything because they couldn't work out how to actually win the game.

If I was to rate the regions in relation to AU it'd be something like:

Kr - Challenger
CN - Diamond
EU - Plat
NA - Plat/Gold
AU - Silver/Bronze

Not because the players are bad individually but because the teamplay and drafting is at a low level.
Veni, vidi, vici!
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
July 19 2013 09:26 GMT
#2894
On July 19 2013 18:12 sob3k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2013 18:06 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 19 2013 18:05 UniversalSnip wrote:
On July 19 2013 17:58 Dark_Chill wrote:
Just putting this out there, but if Alistar got buffed, would that be an indirect nerf to assassins like rengar and zed?


no. his peeling really isn't that good

Why Alistar when you have Nami?


well if you are trying to peel rengar or zed you def want ali over nami, bubble too delayed when they jump your carry

there are already leona and blitz/thresh and lulu all peel just as fast and well as ali though


Ali has the benefit of a knockback as well. It just seems like if you want to keep someone not only away but also from getting off most of their damage, Ali is better than most of the other melee supports, since from my understanding, at least Zed will usually buy mr boots. I can see Lulu being better though, with both her ult and W. I do feel as though having more supports who can deal with assassins would probably help things a bit at least.
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
July 19 2013 09:43 GMT
#2895
On July 19 2013 17:03 FinestHour wrote:
vayne is like the curse of gold
when shes on ur team u lose
when shes on enemy team u lose too
how to win


play sona every game.
oGsMC: Zealot defense, Stalker attack, Sentry forcefieldu forcefieldu, Marauder die die
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
July 19 2013 09:45 GMT
#2896
OMG, I got into my plat promos guys!~ :3

http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/19076288#history

it hasn't updated it but i won my last game as lux with an 8/0/7 score. I'm gonna play my promos tomorrow, hopefully I do well!
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-19 10:09:34
July 19 2013 09:53 GMT
#2897
On July 19 2013 17:58 LeeDawg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2013 17:18 mr_tolkien wrote:
On July 19 2013 12:32 WiseBagus wrote:
Is there anyone who goes over tournament games or a really analytical caster i can watch to at least steal form the pros and know a little bit about why?

Do you speak French ?

EDIT : After all this talk, I've been building Wriggles on my junglers to see. I kinda like it, the stats are really good for the price. 25 AD is nothing to scoff at (~1k gold worth of AD), as well as 15% LS.
It worked pretty well with Shyv and Noct.


i thought wriggles was standard on shyv and noct?

i don't play or own either so i don't know, but i was under the impression that shit was how you did it


noct you'd probably want golem stone on. He clears fast enough with either, but the extra tankiness goes a long way. Shyv could probably also go golem stone and still be near HP neutral.

As for the assassin topic, Zed is probably the worst offender in this regard. Very strong lane phase, one of the best farmers in the game, and if he didn't fall behind, generally can burst the mid, duo lane, often times the jungler after a bit of harass and chase. And best of all, he can chase if you attempt to flash his combo, although if you time it correctly you'll generally dodge the double Q, and probably live.

Kassadin I wouldn't qualify as an assassin. He plays so unlike any other AP or AD assassin in the game. He is one of the hardest scaling AP's, but also has a huge weakness in laning phase. He loses lane quite hard to almost every single AD champion in the game, and most AP's beat him before 6, although his passive and W makes it manageable. Let him get to 6 in one piece though, and he can take over the game very quickly because of how dominant he becomes against spell reliant mids.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35147 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-19 10:40:19
July 19 2013 10:37 GMT
#2898
http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/25143-unofficial-pbe-patch-notes-for-7-18-2013

Outer turrets buffed 6 armor.
Elise Rappel range nerf.
Aegis, Banshee's, GA, Locket, Spirit Visage price reductions.
Specter's Cowl & Spirit of the Ancient Golem nerfs.
Nemireck
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1875 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-19 10:45:22
July 19 2013 10:44 GMT
#2899
I FINALLY DID IT

Ok so after entering ranked queues for the first time back in early June, placing B3, dropping to B4, failing 12 or so promos (sometimes as many as 3 in a night), getting up to B3 promo to B2, losing that, dropping to B5 0LP, getting back to B3 - B2 promos, failing again, going on an 11 game losing streak and saying "ENOUGH! I Shalt carry myself from this Bronze tier and begin my journey from the depths!"

Decided to fight for my best role/champ, and started winning, and winning, and winning, and a little losing, but I did it, I got to B1, 90 pts! "No worries," says I "One or two more games and I'm in promo!" Win the next game... 3LP... THREE LP!??!!! GARBLFGHUNKL! That's ok, two more wins!!! Win the next game, 2 LP.... 2.L.P. GRAGH! "THAT'S OK! WIN TWO MORE!" Win, lose, win, lose, win, win, 98 LP. Ok, I got this, ONE more win!!! And I won!!!!!! ... -_- a single, solitary point of LP... My god, the system doesn't want me in Silver, it's out to get me...

Tonight, despite trolls, and feeders, and afks, and me being horrible (a lot of that happening, not gonna lie), I did it... I finally won my series into Silver 5. I just wanted to celebrate with some people who might just care, even a little bit Now... on to Gold!
Teamwork is awesome... As long as your team is doing all the work!
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35147 Posts
July 19 2013 10:46 GMT
#2900
On July 19 2013 19:44 Nemireck wrote:
I FINALLY DID IT+ Show Spoiler +


Ok so after entering ranked queues for the first time back in early June, placing B3, dropping to B4, failing 12 or so promos (sometimes as many as 3 in a night), getting up to B3 promo to B2, losing that, dropping to B5 0LP, getting back to B3 - B2 promos, failing again, going on an 11 game losing streak and saying "ENOUGH! I Shalt carry myself from this Bronze tier and begin my journey from the depths!"

Decided to fight for my best role/champ, and started winning, and winning, and winning, and a little losing, but I did it, I got to B1, 90 pts! "No worries," says I "One or two more games and I'm in promo!" Win the next game... 3LP... THREE LP!??!!! GARBLFGHUNKL! That's ok, two more wins!!! Win the next game, 2 LP.... 2.L.P. GRAGH! "THAT'S OK! WIN TWO MORE!" Win, lose, win, lose, win, win, 98 LP. Ok, I got this, ONE more win!!! And I won!!!!!! ... -_- a single, solitary point of LP... My god, the system doesn't want me in Silver, it's out to get me...

Tonight, despite trolls, and feeders, and afks, and me being horrible (a lot of that happening, not gonna lie), I did it... I finally won my series into Silver 5. I just wanted to celebrate with some people who might just care, even a little bit Now... on to Gold!

Gj! During my slump I was playing with some high bronzes and boy, do I understand some of the rge people have about not being able to get out of it.
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