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Korea slowly but surely becomes less and less respectable in my mind, with their LoL obsession. Anyhow, good luck with the new venture, Kespa, and hopefully some "dirty LoL money" will be brought into StarCraft as well, as Kespa works with both.
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On July 05 2013 04:58 Amui wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2013 04:52 Erasme wrote:On July 05 2013 04:36 theking1 wrote:On July 04 2013 21:18 evilfatsh1t wrote:On July 04 2013 19:25 theking1 wrote:@spikestarcraft so the fact that a moba resigns a contract with a company they already had a good contract with in the first placemakes you hate sc2  .Why can not you like sc2 for what it is . @Alexj Enlighten me a little bit.what is the difference between proleague and olympus champions beside different format?What will it bring to lol and how will it negatively impact sc2? @evilfatsh not you dota2 fans too.............why?what does this have to do with dota 2?You guys already have the 2 million dollar nexon thingy.How does negatively impact you...come on guys how doesnt it? we all know kespa is what makes koreans pro scenes so god damn pro. so what if we have a big tournament sponsored by nexon? whos gonna win it? "pro" korean teams that would get owned by any pro b team from china/eu? kespa was the best bet for all aspiring dota 2 progamers, and now that it has been ruled out dota players have no alternative but to play in teams that probably dont have the knowledge nor the experience required to become top level. considering the fact that china and eu started playing the game YEARS before koreans did, it just got infinitely harder for koreans to rival the chinese and the western community. dota 2 has a contract with gomtv which gave sc2 its greatest champions such as mvp,nestea,mma,drg,polt etc.only recently kespa went in the sc2 scene.gomtv champions are more than enough tackle any team in most esports.I would not be surprised if in 1 year kr teams start winning everything.And as for that matter the koreans did not even have a lol server and now they are dominating eu and na.Kespa is good but its not all that good.And many good lol teams such as mvp ozone although playing on ogn arent kespa affiliated. top korean dota teams are behind some eu/na pubstack. they wont do anything in a year People thought that about LoL too when season 1/WCG was still out and NA was dominating everything. One year to season 2, and top NA rarely took games, let alone series off top korean teams. Don't be surprised if in a year the Koreans are up there with the Chinese.
Yeah, LoL NA pros thought they had a big lead, and to this day, the (arguably) top NA team TSM is 0-13 vs Korean teams.
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On July 05 2013 04:22 KuKri wrote:
May the masses swallow their moba crap while I enjoy the delicate niche. I'm fine with that.
Yes because SC2 is such an unpopular game.
Come off your high horse, your attitude is disgusting.
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On July 05 2013 04:58 Amui wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2013 04:52 Erasme wrote:On July 05 2013 04:36 theking1 wrote:On July 04 2013 21:18 evilfatsh1t wrote:On July 04 2013 19:25 theking1 wrote:@spikestarcraft so the fact that a moba resigns a contract with a company they already had a good contract with in the first placemakes you hate sc2 .Why can not you like sc2 for what it is . @Alexj Enlighten me a little bit.what is the difference between proleague and olympus champions beside different format?What will it bring to lol and how will it negatively impact sc2? @evilfatsh not you dota2 fans too.............why?what does this have to do with dota 2?You guys already have the 2 million dollar nexon thingy.How does negatively impact you...come on guys how doesnt it? we all know kespa is what makes koreans pro scenes so god damn pro. so what if we have a big tournament sponsored by nexon? whos gonna win it? "pro" korean teams that would get owned by any pro b team from china/eu? kespa was the best bet for all aspiring dota 2 progamers, and now that it has been ruled out dota players have no alternative but to play in teams that probably dont have the knowledge nor the experience required to become top level. considering the fact that china and eu started playing the game YEARS before koreans did, it just got infinitely harder for koreans to rival the chinese and the western community. dota 2 has a contract with gomtv which gave sc2 its greatest champions such as mvp,nestea,mma,drg,polt etc.only recently kespa went in the sc2 scene.gomtv champions are more than enough tackle any team in most esports.I would not be surprised if in 1 year kr teams start winning everything.And as for that matter the koreans did not even have a lol server and now they are dominating eu and na.Kespa is good but its not all that good.And many good lol teams such as mvp ozone although playing on ogn arent kespa affiliated. top korean dota teams are behind some eu/na pubstack. they wont do anything in a year People thought that about LoL too when season 1/WCG was still out and NA was dominating everything. One year to season 2, and top NA rarely took games, let alone series off top korean teams. Don't be surprised if in a year the Koreans are up there with the Chinese.
Just a minor nitpick, EU won S1.
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Isn't lol's popularity leveling out at the moment, at least from the stream numbers I've seen recently, and so there can't be much growth to expect?
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On July 05 2013 05:02 Nourek wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2013 04:58 Amui wrote:On July 05 2013 04:52 Erasme wrote:On July 05 2013 04:36 theking1 wrote:On July 04 2013 21:18 evilfatsh1t wrote:On July 04 2013 19:25 theking1 wrote:@spikestarcraft so the fact that a moba resigns a contract with a company they already had a good contract with in the first placemakes you hate sc2 .Why can not you like sc2 for what it is . @Alexj Enlighten me a little bit.what is the difference between proleague and olympus champions beside different format?What will it bring to lol and how will it negatively impact sc2? @evilfatsh not you dota2 fans too.............why?what does this have to do with dota 2?You guys already have the 2 million dollar nexon thingy.How does negatively impact you...come on guys how doesnt it? we all know kespa is what makes koreans pro scenes so god damn pro. so what if we have a big tournament sponsored by nexon? whos gonna win it? "pro" korean teams that would get owned by any pro b team from china/eu? kespa was the best bet for all aspiring dota 2 progamers, and now that it has been ruled out dota players have no alternative but to play in teams that probably dont have the knowledge nor the experience required to become top level. considering the fact that china and eu started playing the game YEARS before koreans did, it just got infinitely harder for koreans to rival the chinese and the western community. dota 2 has a contract with gomtv which gave sc2 its greatest champions such as mvp,nestea,mma,drg,polt etc.only recently kespa went in the sc2 scene.gomtv champions are more than enough tackle any team in most esports.I would not be surprised if in 1 year kr teams start winning everything.And as for that matter the koreans did not even have a lol server and now they are dominating eu and na.Kespa is good but its not all that good.And many good lol teams such as mvp ozone although playing on ogn arent kespa affiliated. top korean dota teams are behind some eu/na pubstack. they wont do anything in a year People thought that about LoL too when season 1/WCG was still out and NA was dominating everything. One year to season 2, and top NA rarely took games, let alone series off top korean teams. Don't be surprised if in a year the Koreans are up there with the Chinese. Yeah, LoL NA pros thought they had a big lead, and to this day, the (arguably) top NA team TSM is 0-13 vs Korean teams.
isnt c9 the top na team right now?i also think clg had higher s1 placement than tsm.tsm seem a bit overrated to me.
@archoonoid.
it is.i have been yelling this stuff on the forums for weeks and no one pays attention.lol is capped between 100k and 150k rarely do they reach 200k and that only in cases like between 2 fan favourites like fnatic vs gambit or tsm vs clg.I would really wanna see their numbers if they had as many asians playing in na and eu like sc2 has.
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I have no problem with a team game hitting proleague, I just wish it was DOTA 2. It's far faaaaar better
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Korea (South)11232 Posts
On July 05 2013 05:11 theking1 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2013 05:02 Nourek wrote:On July 05 2013 04:58 Amui wrote:On July 05 2013 04:52 Erasme wrote:On July 05 2013 04:36 theking1 wrote:On July 04 2013 21:18 evilfatsh1t wrote:On July 04 2013 19:25 theking1 wrote:@spikestarcraft so the fact that a moba resigns a contract with a company they already had a good contract with in the first placemakes you hate sc2 .Why can not you like sc2 for what it is . @Alexj Enlighten me a little bit.what is the difference between proleague and olympus champions beside different format?What will it bring to lol and how will it negatively impact sc2? @evilfatsh not you dota2 fans too.............why?what does this have to do with dota 2?You guys already have the 2 million dollar nexon thingy.How does negatively impact you...come on guys how doesnt it? we all know kespa is what makes koreans pro scenes so god damn pro. so what if we have a big tournament sponsored by nexon? whos gonna win it? "pro" korean teams that would get owned by any pro b team from china/eu? kespa was the best bet for all aspiring dota 2 progamers, and now that it has been ruled out dota players have no alternative but to play in teams that probably dont have the knowledge nor the experience required to become top level. considering the fact that china and eu started playing the game YEARS before koreans did, it just got infinitely harder for koreans to rival the chinese and the western community. dota 2 has a contract with gomtv which gave sc2 its greatest champions such as mvp,nestea,mma,drg,polt etc.only recently kespa went in the sc2 scene.gomtv champions are more than enough tackle any team in most esports.I would not be surprised if in 1 year kr teams start winning everything.And as for that matter the koreans did not even have a lol server and now they are dominating eu and na.Kespa is good but its not all that good.And many good lol teams such as mvp ozone although playing on ogn arent kespa affiliated. top korean dota teams are behind some eu/na pubstack. they wont do anything in a year People thought that about LoL too when season 1/WCG was still out and NA was dominating everything. One year to season 2, and top NA rarely took games, let alone series off top korean teams. Don't be surprised if in a year the Koreans are up there with the Chinese. Yeah, LoL NA pros thought they had a big lead, and to this day, the (arguably) top NA team TSM is 0-13 vs Korean teams. isnt c9 the top na team right now?i also think clg had higher s1 placement than tsm.tsm seem a bit overrated to me. @archoonoid. it is.i have been yelling this stuff on the forums for weeks and no one pays attention.lol is capped between 100k and 150k rarely do they reach 200k and that only in cases like between 2 fan favourites like fnatic vs gambit or tsm vs clg.I would really wanna see their numbers if they had as many asians playing in na and eu like sc2 has.
Its a weekly event in regular cases more than one day. Events like Allstars or Worldfinals can get a way higher number
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They should pick up DOTA and WoT too. Now instead of one game, matches are one set in each game, and the same people have to play all the games. It'd be like a e-sports triathalon (quadathalon?)
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On July 05 2013 05:17 Chexx wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2013 05:11 theking1 wrote:On July 05 2013 05:02 Nourek wrote:On July 05 2013 04:58 Amui wrote:On July 05 2013 04:52 Erasme wrote:On July 05 2013 04:36 theking1 wrote:On July 04 2013 21:18 evilfatsh1t wrote:On July 04 2013 19:25 theking1 wrote:@spikestarcraft so the fact that a moba resigns a contract with a company they already had a good contract with in the first placemakes you hate sc2 .Why can not you like sc2 for what it is . @Alexj Enlighten me a little bit.what is the difference between proleague and olympus champions beside different format?What will it bring to lol and how will it negatively impact sc2? @evilfatsh not you dota2 fans too.............why?what does this have to do with dota 2?You guys already have the 2 million dollar nexon thingy.How does negatively impact you...come on guys how doesnt it? we all know kespa is what makes koreans pro scenes so god damn pro. so what if we have a big tournament sponsored by nexon? whos gonna win it? "pro" korean teams that would get owned by any pro b team from china/eu? kespa was the best bet for all aspiring dota 2 progamers, and now that it has been ruled out dota players have no alternative but to play in teams that probably dont have the knowledge nor the experience required to become top level. considering the fact that china and eu started playing the game YEARS before koreans did, it just got infinitely harder for koreans to rival the chinese and the western community. dota 2 has a contract with gomtv which gave sc2 its greatest champions such as mvp,nestea,mma,drg,polt etc.only recently kespa went in the sc2 scene.gomtv champions are more than enough tackle any team in most esports.I would not be surprised if in 1 year kr teams start winning everything.And as for that matter the koreans did not even have a lol server and now they are dominating eu and na.Kespa is good but its not all that good.And many good lol teams such as mvp ozone although playing on ogn arent kespa affiliated. top korean dota teams are behind some eu/na pubstack. they wont do anything in a year People thought that about LoL too when season 1/WCG was still out and NA was dominating everything. One year to season 2, and top NA rarely took games, let alone series off top korean teams. Don't be surprised if in a year the Koreans are up there with the Chinese. Yeah, LoL NA pros thought they had a big lead, and to this day, the (arguably) top NA team TSM is 0-13 vs Korean teams. isnt c9 the top na team right now?i also think clg had higher s1 placement than tsm.tsm seem a bit overrated to me. @archoonoid. it is.i have been yelling this stuff on the forums for weeks and no one pays attention.lol is capped between 100k and 150k rarely do they reach 200k and that only in cases like between 2 fan favourites like fnatic vs gambit or tsm vs clg.I would really wanna see their numbers if they had as many asians playing in na and eu like sc2 has. Its a weekly event in regular cases more than one day. Events like Allstars or Worldfinals can get a way higher number
still considering their proclaimed 70million players(cough accounts) and 5 mil daily players they should have a bit higher numbers.
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On July 05 2013 05:06 krutopatkin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2013 04:22 KuKri wrote:
May the masses swallow their moba crap while I enjoy the delicate niche. I'm fine with that. //Yes because SC2 is such an unpopular game. Come off your high horse, your attitude is disgusting.
That's what the Justin Bieber fans would say
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Korea (South)11232 Posts
On July 05 2013 05:21 theking1 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2013 05:17 Chexx wrote:On July 05 2013 05:11 theking1 wrote:On July 05 2013 05:02 Nourek wrote:On July 05 2013 04:58 Amui wrote:On July 05 2013 04:52 Erasme wrote:On July 05 2013 04:36 theking1 wrote:On July 04 2013 21:18 evilfatsh1t wrote:On July 04 2013 19:25 theking1 wrote:@spikestarcraft so the fact that a moba resigns a contract with a company they already had a good contract with in the first placemakes you hate sc2 .Why can not you like sc2 for what it is . @Alexj Enlighten me a little bit.what is the difference between proleague and olympus champions beside different format?What will it bring to lol and how will it negatively impact sc2? @evilfatsh not you dota2 fans too.............why?what does this have to do with dota 2?You guys already have the 2 million dollar nexon thingy.How does negatively impact you...come on guys how doesnt it? we all know kespa is what makes koreans pro scenes so god damn pro. so what if we have a big tournament sponsored by nexon? whos gonna win it? "pro" korean teams that would get owned by any pro b team from china/eu? kespa was the best bet for all aspiring dota 2 progamers, and now that it has been ruled out dota players have no alternative but to play in teams that probably dont have the knowledge nor the experience required to become top level. considering the fact that china and eu started playing the game YEARS before koreans did, it just got infinitely harder for koreans to rival the chinese and the western community. dota 2 has a contract with gomtv which gave sc2 its greatest champions such as mvp,nestea,mma,drg,polt etc.only recently kespa went in the sc2 scene.gomtv champions are more than enough tackle any team in most esports.I would not be surprised if in 1 year kr teams start winning everything.And as for that matter the koreans did not even have a lol server and now they are dominating eu and na.Kespa is good but its not all that good.And many good lol teams such as mvp ozone although playing on ogn arent kespa affiliated. top korean dota teams are behind some eu/na pubstack. they wont do anything in a year People thought that about LoL too when season 1/WCG was still out and NA was dominating everything. One year to season 2, and top NA rarely took games, let alone series off top korean teams. Don't be surprised if in a year the Koreans are up there with the Chinese. Yeah, LoL NA pros thought they had a big lead, and to this day, the (arguably) top NA team TSM is 0-13 vs Korean teams. isnt c9 the top na team right now?i also think clg had higher s1 placement than tsm.tsm seem a bit overrated to me. @archoonoid. it is.i have been yelling this stuff on the forums for weeks and no one pays attention.lol is capped between 100k and 150k rarely do they reach 200k and that only in cases like between 2 fan favourites like fnatic vs gambit or tsm vs clg.I would really wanna see their numbers if they had as many asians playing in na and eu like sc2 has. Its a weekly event in regular cases more than one day. Events like Allstars or Worldfinals can get a way higher number still considering their proclaimed 70million players(cough accounts) and 5 mil daily players they should have a bit higher numbers.
It is 30 million players I thought? Probably the amount of casual players is higher and thats why.
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future esport belongs to the casuals. Something people can just pick up, smash buttons 1-4 and still get decent results. And from the huge pools of casuals, a few will go hardcore/pro.
Look at diablo, a massive failure of a game. Despite that it still have millions more active players than sc2. Why? people can smash button 1-6 and kill shit. You mix a casual game that is built with esport in mind (fairness, good skill ceiling, low skill require entry, f2p) then you get something successful like LoL
In future I see some form of casual-ized rpg/mmo turn into the esport spot light. I can't imagine what such RPG would look like, but those who do and can implement it correctly will be massively successful.
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On July 04 2013 14:25 RiceAgainst wrote:
Mostly LoL but some points of discussion in relation to SC2:
-If teams like Najin/MVP (non-KeSPA teams) are allowed into KeSPA's LoL PL, then there's a chance ESF SC2 teams might also be allowed into PL
-(previously mentioned) 2 new KeSPA teams possibly extending over to SC2 also
-One of the new teams might be STX's team take over?
We dunno if the two "new" teams are gonna replace, actually be new, or even be part of SC2 also though.
Nah this is impossible. If MVP and/or IM were to join KeSPA, then they wouldn't be able to play in GSTL anymore, and they wouldn't be eSF anymore. Other eSF teams wouldn't be allowed to play in SPL.
I'm guessing that KeSPA teams are going to get LoL teams, and LoL teams are going to get SC2 teams? But not positive about that.
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On July 05 2013 04:58 Amui wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2013 04:52 Erasme wrote:On July 05 2013 04:36 theking1 wrote:On July 04 2013 21:18 evilfatsh1t wrote:On July 04 2013 19:25 theking1 wrote:@spikestarcraft so the fact that a moba resigns a contract with a company they already had a good contract with in the first placemakes you hate sc2 .Why can not you like sc2 for what it is . @Alexj Enlighten me a little bit.what is the difference between proleague and olympus champions beside different format?What will it bring to lol and how will it negatively impact sc2? @evilfatsh not you dota2 fans too.............why?what does this have to do with dota 2?You guys already have the 2 million dollar nexon thingy.How does negatively impact you...come on guys how doesnt it? we all know kespa is what makes koreans pro scenes so god damn pro. so what if we have a big tournament sponsored by nexon? whos gonna win it? "pro" korean teams that would get owned by any pro b team from china/eu? kespa was the best bet for all aspiring dota 2 progamers, and now that it has been ruled out dota players have no alternative but to play in teams that probably dont have the knowledge nor the experience required to become top level. considering the fact that china and eu started playing the game YEARS before koreans did, it just got infinitely harder for koreans to rival the chinese and the western community. dota 2 has a contract with gomtv which gave sc2 its greatest champions such as mvp,nestea,mma,drg,polt etc.only recently kespa went in the sc2 scene.gomtv champions are more than enough tackle any team in most esports.I would not be surprised if in 1 year kr teams start winning everything.And as for that matter the koreans did not even have a lol server and now they are dominating eu and na.Kespa is good but its not all that good.And many good lol teams such as mvp ozone although playing on ogn arent kespa affiliated. top korean dota teams are behind some eu/na pubstack. they wont do anything in a year People thought that about LoL too when season 1/WCG was still out and NA was dominating everything. One year to season 2, and top NA rarely took games, let alone series off top korean teams. Don't be surprised if in a year the Koreans are up there with the Chinese.
LoL is probably so established in Korea that when DotA 2 is officially released to the public that Korean DotA 2 teams won't receive the funding & infrastructure that accelerated Korean play skill in LoL so quickly
I strongly believe that DotA 2 will not reach the same popularity of LoL anywhere in the world outside of China because Valve has been so slow in developing DotA 2 while Riot / LoL has been continually building a foothold in the MOBA space
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blizzard, make sc2 multiplayer unrestricted f2p
god help us all!
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On July 05 2013 05:55 Shinta) wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2013 14:25 RiceAgainst wrote:
Mostly LoL but some points of discussion in relation to SC2:
-If teams like Najin/MVP (non-KeSPA teams) are allowed into KeSPA's LoL PL, then there's a chance ESF SC2 teams might also be allowed into PL
-(previously mentioned) 2 new KeSPA teams possibly extending over to SC2 also
-One of the new teams might be STX's team take over?
We dunno if the two "new" teams are gonna replace, actually be new, or even be part of SC2 also though. Nah this is impossible. If MVP and/or IM were to join KeSPA, then they wouldn't be able to play in GSTL anymore, and they wouldn't be eSF anymore. Other eSF teams wouldn't be allowed to play in SPL. I'm guessing that KeSPA teams are going to get LoL teams, and LoL teams are going to get SC2 teams? But not positive about that.
As if GSTL has any weight though.
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On July 05 2013 05:55 Shinta) wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2013 14:25 RiceAgainst wrote:
Mostly LoL but some points of discussion in relation to SC2:
-If teams like Najin/MVP (non-KeSPA teams) are allowed into KeSPA's LoL PL, then there's a chance ESF SC2 teams might also be allowed into PL
-(previously mentioned) 2 new KeSPA teams possibly extending over to SC2 also
-One of the new teams might be STX's team take over?
We dunno if the two "new" teams are gonna replace, actually be new, or even be part of SC2 also though. Nah this is impossible. If MVP and/or IM were to join KeSPA, then they wouldn't be able to play in GSTL anymore, and they wouldn't be eSF anymore. Other eSF teams wouldn't be allowed to play in SPL. I'm guessing that KeSPA teams are going to get LoL teams, and LoL teams are going to get SC2 teams? But not positive about that.
Either MVP and IM will leave eSF and GSTL, or their LoL team will leave the current MVP and IM to become whole new teams to join Kespa I think.
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On July 05 2013 05:11 theking1 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2013 05:02 Nourek wrote:On July 05 2013 04:58 Amui wrote:On July 05 2013 04:52 Erasme wrote:On July 05 2013 04:36 theking1 wrote:On July 04 2013 21:18 evilfatsh1t wrote:On July 04 2013 19:25 theking1 wrote:@spikestarcraft so the fact that a moba resigns a contract with a company they already had a good contract with in the first placemakes you hate sc2 .Why can not you like sc2 for what it is . @Alexj Enlighten me a little bit.what is the difference between proleague and olympus champions beside different format?What will it bring to lol and how will it negatively impact sc2? @evilfatsh not you dota2 fans too.............why?what does this have to do with dota 2?You guys already have the 2 million dollar nexon thingy.How does negatively impact you...come on guys how doesnt it? we all know kespa is what makes koreans pro scenes so god damn pro. so what if we have a big tournament sponsored by nexon? whos gonna win it? "pro" korean teams that would get owned by any pro b team from china/eu? kespa was the best bet for all aspiring dota 2 progamers, and now that it has been ruled out dota players have no alternative but to play in teams that probably dont have the knowledge nor the experience required to become top level. considering the fact that china and eu started playing the game YEARS before koreans did, it just got infinitely harder for koreans to rival the chinese and the western community. dota 2 has a contract with gomtv which gave sc2 its greatest champions such as mvp,nestea,mma,drg,polt etc.only recently kespa went in the sc2 scene.gomtv champions are more than enough tackle any team in most esports.I would not be surprised if in 1 year kr teams start winning everything.And as for that matter the koreans did not even have a lol server and now they are dominating eu and na.Kespa is good but its not all that good.And many good lol teams such as mvp ozone although playing on ogn arent kespa affiliated. top korean dota teams are behind some eu/na pubstack. they wont do anything in a year People thought that about LoL too when season 1/WCG was still out and NA was dominating everything. One year to season 2, and top NA rarely took games, let alone series off top korean teams. Don't be surprised if in a year the Koreans are up there with the Chinese. Yeah, LoL NA pros thought they had a big lead, and to this day, the (arguably) top NA team TSM is 0-13 vs Korean teams. isnt c9 the top na team right now?i also think clg had higher s1 placement than tsm.tsm seem a bit overrated to me.
Right now C9 is doing better, sure. But C9 has never played vs Koreans and TSM won the spring split of S3 of NA LCS, C9 wasn't in it.
My point was more that during a time when TSM dominated NA (most of 2012), they got crushed by Korean teams.
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On July 05 2013 06:01 udgnim wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2013 04:58 Amui wrote:On July 05 2013 04:52 Erasme wrote:On July 05 2013 04:36 theking1 wrote:On July 04 2013 21:18 evilfatsh1t wrote:On July 04 2013 19:25 theking1 wrote:@spikestarcraft so the fact that a moba resigns a contract with a company they already had a good contract with in the first placemakes you hate sc2 .Why can not you like sc2 for what it is . @Alexj Enlighten me a little bit.what is the difference between proleague and olympus champions beside different format?What will it bring to lol and how will it negatively impact sc2? @evilfatsh not you dota2 fans too.............why?what does this have to do with dota 2?You guys already have the 2 million dollar nexon thingy.How does negatively impact you...come on guys how doesnt it? we all know kespa is what makes koreans pro scenes so god damn pro. so what if we have a big tournament sponsored by nexon? whos gonna win it? "pro" korean teams that would get owned by any pro b team from china/eu? kespa was the best bet for all aspiring dota 2 progamers, and now that it has been ruled out dota players have no alternative but to play in teams that probably dont have the knowledge nor the experience required to become top level. considering the fact that china and eu started playing the game YEARS before koreans did, it just got infinitely harder for koreans to rival the chinese and the western community. dota 2 has a contract with gomtv which gave sc2 its greatest champions such as mvp,nestea,mma,drg,polt etc.only recently kespa went in the sc2 scene.gomtv champions are more than enough tackle any team in most esports.I would not be surprised if in 1 year kr teams start winning everything.And as for that matter the koreans did not even have a lol server and now they are dominating eu and na.Kespa is good but its not all that good.And many good lol teams such as mvp ozone although playing on ogn arent kespa affiliated. top korean dota teams are behind some eu/na pubstack. they wont do anything in a year People thought that about LoL too when season 1/WCG was still out and NA was dominating everything. One year to season 2, and top NA rarely took games, let alone series off top korean teams. Don't be surprised if in a year the Koreans are up there with the Chinese. LoL is probably so established in Korea that when DotA 2 is officially released to the public that Korean DotA 2 teams won't receive the funding & infrastructure that accelerated Korean play skill in LoL so quickly I strongly believe that DotA 2 will not reach the same popularity of LoL anywhere in the world outside of China because Valve has been so slow in developing DotA 2 while Riot / LoL has been continually building a foothold in the MOBA space
Of course LoL is established better everywhere... It's Riots cash cow and they are reinvesting some of the revenue into popularizing the game, which apparently is a huge sum of money. Their aggressive strategy works really well, despite the fact that the game itself is falsely called free and is not the best game ever made.
Valve at the same time needs 3+ years to put all the heroes in the game... Not to create them. Just to copy them into the game - they are already created. I can't see how they can win that race.
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