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On July 02 2013 06:30 kainzero wrote:
Ever since lane swaps and the legitimacy of AD mids, I've been using the solo/duo references when it comes to competitive.
Occasionally I'll use off-laner for a solo going against a duo, and a 1-on-1 or heads-up lane for the solo vs. solo.
I think "top"+"mid" role knowledge only matters if it's standard lane set up of "top laner" vs "top laners"; and "mid laner" vs "midlaner"; that's when lane knowledge becomes extremely important; otherwise if you're stuck in 1v2 lane the only thing you need to do is CS under turret correctly; and not feed 1v2.
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They don't touch the scoreboard in obs mode. Riot forces players to join games in order of Top, Jungle, Mid, ADC, Support.
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Isnt the seat arangement in offline games decided by role.ingame?
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On July 02 2013 06:36 SagaZ wrote:
Isnt the seat arangement in offline games decided by role.ingame?
No; it's not enforced.
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On July 02 2013 06:33 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2013 06:30 kainzero wrote:
Ever since lane swaps and the legitimacy of AD mids, I've been using the solo/duo references when it comes to competitive.
Occasionally I'll use off-laner for a solo going against a duo, and a 1-on-1 or heads-up lane for the solo vs. solo. I think "top"+"mid" role knowledge only matters if it's standard lane set up of "top laner" vs "top laners"; and "mid laner" vs "midlaner"; that's when lane knowledge becomes extremely important; otherwise if you're stuck in 1v2 lane the only thing you need to do is CS under turret correctly; and not feed 1v2.
That's not entirely true about 1v2. You often need to play towards maximizing your tower lifetime and there's also a lot of intricacies involved in 1v2ing. If it really was simple, there wouldn't be so many players who are bad at it.
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It's just super annoying when Regi lanes vs Link and Dyrus vs Nien but in order to compare you have to look at different locations. This is a problem they themselves fixed by allowing the scoreboard readjustment yet refuse to use it. What's the point of designing tools to fix problems then refusing to use said tools when said problem occurs. It's mind-boggling.
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It's like steppes of war in actual tournaments all over again.
Well maybe doesn't ruin competition but it's still cancer.
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On July 02 2013 06:44 nafta wrote:
It's like steppes of war in actual tournaments all over again.
Well maybe doesn't ruin competition but it's still cancer.
We do not mention that place, let it be forgotten.
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On July 02 2013 06:38 sylverfyre wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2013 06:33 wei2coolman wrote:On July 02 2013 06:30 kainzero wrote:
Ever since lane swaps and the legitimacy of AD mids, I've been using the solo/duo references when it comes to competitive.
Occasionally I'll use off-laner for a solo going against a duo, and a 1-on-1 or heads-up lane for the solo vs. solo. I think "top"+"mid" role knowledge only matters if it's standard lane set up of "top laner" vs "top laners"; and "mid laner" vs "midlaner"; that's when lane knowledge becomes extremely important; otherwise if you're stuck in 1v2 lane the only thing you need to do is CS under turret correctly; and not feed 1v2. That's not entirely true about 1v2. You often need to play towards maximizing your tower lifetime and there's also a lot of intricacies involved in 1v2ing. If it really was simple, there wouldn't be so many players who are bad at it.
A lot of the 1v2 has to do with champ picks; their picks vs your picks; not so much skill match up. I don't care how good you are in 1v2 lane; if the enemy is doing some Cait+Janna, or Cait+lulu lane, you're losing your turret at the 4 minute mark. I think the real skill has a lot to do how they recover from a 1v2 lane.
I think a lot of the 1v1 matchups are a lot more knowledge based; and have more room to show skill differences. 1v2 it's not quite nearly as apparent.
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On July 02 2013 06:44 nafta wrote:
It's like steppes of war in actual tournaments all over again.
Well maybe doesn't ruin competition but it's still cancer.
Hey, I liked Steppes. It only took like 5 mins to get my creep to the other person's natural.
Also, I think its weird how many 1 Tank Comps are coming out these days in the LCS. Its like, if a team doesn't have Malphite or Shen, its only the Jungler.
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On July 02 2013 06:37 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2013 06:36 SagaZ wrote:
Isnt the seat arangement in offline games decided by role.ingame? No; it's not enforced.
wtf, yes it is.
Riot and now defunct IPL, have always made player sit in order based on their position/role.
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That's really dumb then.
What possible reason could there be for that? Teams may have different seating orders based on the interaction between players with regard to how the team plays (e.g. have your captain in the middle seat). Being forced to sit a certain way could have a legitimate impact on how the team functions.
I know that in DotA, you could always tell how different teams had consistent (but different from team to team) seating orders.
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On July 02 2013 07:07 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2013 06:37 wei2coolman wrote:On July 02 2013 06:36 SagaZ wrote:
Isnt the seat arangement in offline games decided by role.ingame? No; it's not enforced. wtf, yes it is. Riot and now defunct IPL, have always made player sit in order based on their position/role.
I'm 100% sure regi always sat on the side and Dyrus mid during ipl4+5 though?
also not sure how strict riot/esl are with the rules in EU LCS but Peke sits on the side and for MYM Mokate sits mid because he's the shotcaller I assume
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I always believed that they key players in a 1v2 off-lane are the junglers.
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On July 02 2013 07:07 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2013 06:37 wei2coolman wrote:On July 02 2013 06:36 SagaZ wrote:
Isnt the seat arangement in offline games decided by role.ingame? No; it's not enforced. wtf, yes it is. Riot and now defunct IPL, have always made player sit in order based on their position/role.
Wut? I'm pretty sure there were a couple teams with different seating order.
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On July 02 2013 07:16 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2013 07:07 NeoIllusions wrote:On July 02 2013 06:37 wei2coolman wrote:On July 02 2013 06:36 SagaZ wrote:
Isnt the seat arangement in offline games decided by role.ingame? No; it's not enforced. wtf, yes it is. Riot and now defunct IPL, have always made player sit in order based on their position/role. Wut? I'm pretty sure there were a couple teams with different seating order.
afaik, only velocity has a diff order, which is reversed from everyone else's, due to cris' bizzarro computer needs
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On July 02 2013 07:18 gtrsrs wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2013 07:16 wei2coolman wrote:On July 02 2013 07:07 NeoIllusions wrote:On July 02 2013 06:37 wei2coolman wrote:On July 02 2013 06:36 SagaZ wrote:
Isnt the seat arangement in offline games decided by role.ingame? No; it's not enforced. wtf, yes it is. Riot and now defunct IPL, have always made player sit in order based on their position/role. Wut? I'm pretty sure there were a couple teams with different seating order. afaik, only velocity has a diff order, which is reversed from everyone else's, due to cris' bizzarro computer needs
Yeah; that was the one I remember; but also during IPL some of the previously disbanded teams had different sitting order.
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Someone find proof of otherwise. At IPL5, I had to make sure everyone sat in the same order. afaik, Riot actually does the same.
Exceptions are made for obv reasons (VES).
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What's that thing with Cris?
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On July 02 2013 07:26 Alaric wrote:
What's that thing with Cris?
He's left-handed. So he has his mouse in left, uses keyboard on right. As a result, he has to sit on the far left of the table so he doesn't bump into Nk Inc's stuff.
Edit: Obligatory Alaric, I am disappoint.
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