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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 01 2013 21:33 GMT
#5541
On July 02 2013 06:30 kainzero wrote:
Ever since lane swaps and the legitimacy of AD mids, I've been using the solo/duo references when it comes to competitive.

Occasionally I'll use off-laner for a solo going against a duo, and a 1-on-1 or heads-up lane for the solo vs. solo.

I think "top"+"mid" role knowledge only matters if it's standard lane set up of "top laner" vs "top laners"; and "mid laner" vs "midlaner"; that's when lane knowledge becomes extremely important; otherwise if you're stuck in 1v2 lane the only thing you need to do is CS under turret correctly; and not feed 1v2.
liftlift > tsm
caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6421 Posts
July 01 2013 21:34 GMT
#5542
They don't touch the scoreboard in obs mode. Riot forces players to join games in order of Top, Jungle, Mid, ADC, Support.
bnet: caelym#1470 | Twitter: @caelym
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
July 01 2013 21:36 GMT
#5543
Isnt the seat arangement in offline games decided by role.ingame?
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 01 2013 21:37 GMT
#5544
On July 02 2013 06:36 SagaZ wrote:
Isnt the seat arangement in offline games decided by role.ingame?

No; it's not enforced.
liftlift > tsm
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
July 01 2013 21:38 GMT
#5545
On July 02 2013 06:33 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2013 06:30 kainzero wrote:
Ever since lane swaps and the legitimacy of AD mids, I've been using the solo/duo references when it comes to competitive.

Occasionally I'll use off-laner for a solo going against a duo, and a 1-on-1 or heads-up lane for the solo vs. solo.

I think "top"+"mid" role knowledge only matters if it's standard lane set up of "top laner" vs "top laners"; and "mid laner" vs "midlaner"; that's when lane knowledge becomes extremely important; otherwise if you're stuck in 1v2 lane the only thing you need to do is CS under turret correctly; and not feed 1v2.

That's not entirely true about 1v2. You often need to play towards maximizing your tower lifetime and there's also a lot of intricacies involved in 1v2ing. If it really was simple, there wouldn't be so many players who are bad at it.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
July 01 2013 21:43 GMT
#5546
It's just super annoying when Regi lanes vs Link and Dyrus vs Nien but in order to compare you have to look at different locations. This is a problem they themselves fixed by allowing the scoreboard readjustment yet refuse to use it. What's the point of designing tools to fix problems then refusing to use said tools when said problem occurs. It's mind-boggling.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
July 01 2013 21:44 GMT
#5547
It's like steppes of war in actual tournaments all over again.

Well maybe doesn't ruin competition but it's still cancer.
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
July 01 2013 21:46 GMT
#5548
On July 02 2013 06:44 nafta wrote:
It's like steppes of war in actual tournaments all over again.

Well maybe doesn't ruin competition but it's still cancer.


We do not mention that place, let it be forgotten.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 01 2013 21:49 GMT
#5549
On July 02 2013 06:38 sylverfyre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2013 06:33 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 02 2013 06:30 kainzero wrote:
Ever since lane swaps and the legitimacy of AD mids, I've been using the solo/duo references when it comes to competitive.

Occasionally I'll use off-laner for a solo going against a duo, and a 1-on-1 or heads-up lane for the solo vs. solo.

I think "top"+"mid" role knowledge only matters if it's standard lane set up of "top laner" vs "top laners"; and "mid laner" vs "midlaner"; that's when lane knowledge becomes extremely important; otherwise if you're stuck in 1v2 lane the only thing you need to do is CS under turret correctly; and not feed 1v2.

That's not entirely true about 1v2. You often need to play towards maximizing your tower lifetime and there's also a lot of intricacies involved in 1v2ing. If it really was simple, there wouldn't be so many players who are bad at it.

A lot of the 1v2 has to do with champ picks; their picks vs your picks; not so much skill match up. I don't care how good you are in 1v2 lane; if the enemy is doing some Cait+Janna, or Cait+lulu lane, you're losing your turret at the 4 minute mark. I think the real skill has a lot to do how they recover from a 1v2 lane.

I think a lot of the 1v1 matchups are a lot more knowledge based; and have more room to show skill differences. 1v2 it's not quite nearly as apparent.
liftlift > tsm
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19573 Posts
July 01 2013 22:01 GMT
#5550
On July 02 2013 06:44 nafta wrote:
It's like steppes of war in actual tournaments all over again.

Well maybe doesn't ruin competition but it's still cancer.


Hey, I liked Steppes. It only took like 5 mins to get my creep to the other person's natural.

Also, I think its weird how many 1 Tank Comps are coming out these days in the LCS. Its like, if a team doesn't have Malphite or Shen, its only the Jungler.
Freeeeeeedom
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 01 2013 22:07 GMT
#5551
On July 02 2013 06:37 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2013 06:36 SagaZ wrote:
Isnt the seat arangement in offline games decided by role.ingame?

No; it's not enforced.

wtf, yes it is.
Riot and now defunct IPL, have always made player sit in order based on their position/role.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
July 01 2013 22:10 GMT
#5552
That's really dumb then.

What possible reason could there be for that? Teams may have different seating orders based on the interaction between players with regard to how the team plays (e.g. have your captain in the middle seat). Being forced to sit a certain way could have a legitimate impact on how the team functions.

I know that in DotA, you could always tell how different teams had consistent (but different from team to team) seating orders.
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AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-01 22:16:25
July 01 2013 22:11 GMT
#5553
On July 02 2013 07:07 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2013 06:37 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 02 2013 06:36 SagaZ wrote:
Isnt the seat arangement in offline games decided by role.ingame?

No; it's not enforced.

wtf, yes it is.
Riot and now defunct IPL, have always made player sit in order based on their position/role.


I'm 100% sure regi always sat on the side and Dyrus mid during ipl4+5 though?

also not sure how strict riot/esl are with the rules in EU LCS but Peke sits on the side and for MYM Mokate sits mid because he's the shotcaller I assume
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
July 01 2013 22:13 GMT
#5554
I always believed that they key players in a 1v2 off-lane are the junglers.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 01 2013 22:16 GMT
#5555
On July 02 2013 07:07 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2013 06:37 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 02 2013 06:36 SagaZ wrote:
Isnt the seat arangement in offline games decided by role.ingame?

No; it's not enforced.

wtf, yes it is.
Riot and now defunct IPL, have always made player sit in order based on their position/role.

Wut? I'm pretty sure there were a couple teams with different seating order.
liftlift > tsm
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
July 01 2013 22:18 GMT
#5556
On July 02 2013 07:16 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2013 07:07 NeoIllusions wrote:
On July 02 2013 06:37 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 02 2013 06:36 SagaZ wrote:
Isnt the seat arangement in offline games decided by role.ingame?

No; it's not enforced.

wtf, yes it is.
Riot and now defunct IPL, have always made player sit in order based on their position/role.

Wut? I'm pretty sure there were a couple teams with different seating order.


afaik, only velocity has a diff order, which is reversed from everyone else's, due to cris' bizzarro computer needs
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 01 2013 22:19 GMT
#5557
On July 02 2013 07:18 gtrsrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2013 07:16 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 02 2013 07:07 NeoIllusions wrote:
On July 02 2013 06:37 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 02 2013 06:36 SagaZ wrote:
Isnt the seat arangement in offline games decided by role.ingame?

No; it's not enforced.

wtf, yes it is.
Riot and now defunct IPL, have always made player sit in order based on their position/role.

Wut? I'm pretty sure there were a couple teams with different seating order.


afaik, only velocity has a diff order, which is reversed from everyone else's, due to cris' bizzarro computer needs

Yeah; that was the one I remember; but also during IPL some of the previously disbanded teams had different sitting order.
liftlift > tsm
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 01 2013 22:24 GMT
#5558
Someone find proof of otherwise. At IPL5, I had to make sure everyone sat in the same order. afaik, Riot actually does the same.

Exceptions are made for obv reasons (VES).
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
July 01 2013 22:26 GMT
#5559
What's that thing with Cris?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-01 22:29:38
July 01 2013 22:29 GMT
#5560
On July 02 2013 07:26 Alaric wrote:
What's that thing with Cris?

He's left-handed. So he has his mouse in left, uses keyboard on right. As a result, he has to sit on the far left of the table so he doesn't bump into Nk Inc's stuff.

Edit: Obligatory Alaric, I am disappoint.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
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