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komokun
France343 Posts
Pretty interesting presentation, first time I see this guy's channel. I never really took the mixed damage aspect of ganking a lane as a jungler (ad jungler ganking an ap solo lane/ap jungler ganking bot or the ad solo lanes) at the timings where the enemy buys his specific resistance items (MR or armor) | ||
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thenexusp
United States3721 Posts
On May 17 2013 09:17 stormtemplar wrote: What exactly do scouts prevent? IIRC scouts are pretty much awful at everything exept BGH scout-tank iirc Scouts are why you can't just use corrupters to stop corsairs EDIT: And as posted above, why you don't go carrier/BC vs P | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On May 17 2013 09:41 Capped wrote: LoL really sucks for telling u their patch times, everyons all "Lul its 4am on a wednesday morning" - well its thursday, no EU patch. Never anything on their website other then "Servers are online!  )) - Servers are offline!  (("Wut up? Just put up a fuckin maintenance post with times every week, its not hard guys, every other game in the world will give you an ETA on downtime It's more like Riot EU is absolutely fucking awful. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19573 Posts
On May 17 2013 09:55 komokun wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=PN3Km60p-4w Pretty interesting presentation, first time I see this guy's channel. I never really took the mixed damage aspect of ganking a lane as a jungler (ad jungler ganking an ap solo lane/ap jungler ganking bot or the ad solo lanes) at the timings where the enemy buys their first specific resistance items (MR or armor) Aegis/Bulwark ignored + Exaggerated item builds = meh Double AP works because both AP champs typically have better Utility than bruisers. Good Examples would be Equalizer, and hemoplague top or the Anivia/Orianna type champs mid. | ||
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Dgiese
United States2687 Posts
On May 17 2013 10:01 thenexusp wrote: iirc Scouts are why you can't just use corrupters to stop corsairs EDIT: And as posted above, why you don't go carrier/BC vs P Not sure if serious or trolling :/ | ||
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
On May 17 2013 10:01 thenexusp wrote: iirc Scouts are why you can't just use corrupters to stop corsairs EDIT: And as posted above, why you don't go carrier/BC vs P The term you are looking for is "Devourer". Looks kinda like a snail with wings. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
On May 17 2013 09:55 komokun wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=PN3Km60p-4w Pretty interesting presentation, first time I see this guy's channel. I never really took the mixed damage aspect of ganking a lane as a jungler (ad jungler ganking an ap solo lane/ap jungler ganking bot or the ad solo lanes) at the timings where the enemy buys his specific resistance items (MR or armor) he kinda goes best case scenario to prove his point, I actually really dislike this video. Mixed damage being good =/= alert the media. he also bases his entire theory of double AP being the only way to go right now on boosting your AD carries damage, then uses Jayce as an example, news flash: Jayce is your primary AD Damage source until like 40 min if you go the Muramana rush build, and he's a solo laner so, I'm just confused why people would look at a video saying Jayce/Zed/Khazix decrease your ADC's damage output and give a shit, then at the end when he tries to make it not about solo q, guess what dog, if you are running one of these solo lanes in an arranged comp, you can run a support AD like Varus/Twitch/MF intelectual diarrhea. | ||
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Amethyst21
Canada7032 Posts
On May 17 2013 09:55 komokun wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=PN3Km60p-4w Pretty interesting presentation, first time I see this guy's channel. I never really took the mixed damage aspect of ganking a lane as a jungler (ad jungler ganking an ap solo lane/ap jungler ganking bot or the ad solo lanes) at the timings where the enemy buys his specific resistance items (MR or armor) It's a nice presentation, but it thinks of things in way too binary a fashion. For example aura items (ageis, locket) are pretty good against double AP comps. Plus, he ignores the fact that stacking health is equally good against AP and AD champions - and there is no way you're renekton has 3 mr items in the midgame, come on now. Plus he could use #s to say "Renekton dies in 9 hits with this build and 11 hits in this build, etc.. Plus, he ignores armor pen/magic pen and it's midgame effectiveness Anyway, its a nice presentation, but really doesn't show anything of much use | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On May 17 2013 09:55 komokun wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=PN3Km60p-4w Pretty interesting presentation, first time I see this guy's channel. I never really took the mixed damage aspect of ganking a lane as a jungler (ad jungler ganking an ap solo lane/ap jungler ganking bot or the ad solo lanes) at the timings where the enemy buys their first specific resistance items (MR or armor) Too much theory. Most of these things were considered when people started doing bruisers mid in tournaments again. I'm not saying I disagree with the logic though. He just needs objective proof. Also Jayce is a horrible example of a physical damage only champion. Jayce can have significant magic damage from hammer W and hammer E. I'll definitely be more attentive to watching the effect of AP jungler ganks against heavy armor tanks though. | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/MtFfYtm.png) Milo's right, max Q on Nami also i heard they nerfed cait? | ||
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thenexusp
United States3721 Posts
doh, yeah i meant devourers I should boot up the BW again, it's been a while... | ||
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dae
Canada1600 Posts
On May 17 2013 10:27 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: + Show Spoiler + Milo's right, max Q on Nami also i heard they nerfed cait? A nerfed champion playing vs itself, how it it relevant at all...? | ||
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Dgiese
United States2687 Posts
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thenexusp
United States3721 Posts
On May 17 2013 10:33 Dgiese wrote: Yeah... still pretty sure scouts aren't the reason you don't use devourers against corsairs. It's cause if you try to tech up to devourers while your opponent is running something like DT + Corsair, then your opponent just comes and fuckin' kills you. yeah idk i was pretty bad at BW | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On May 17 2013 10:27 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: + Show Spoiler + Milo's right, max Q on Nami also i heard they nerfed cait? Looks like you're also showing off Milo's slot-filler tech, lol. | ||
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Dgiese
United States2687 Posts
Heh, fair enough. Just reminded me of Day9 talking about counters. | ||
Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21242 Posts
On May 17 2013 10:33 Dgiese wrote: Yeah... still pretty sure scouts aren't the reason you don't use devourers against corsairs. It's cause if you try to tech up to devourers while your opponent is running something like DT + Corsair, then your opponent just comes and fuckin' kills you. who needs scouts when you can... | ||
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
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RagequitBM
Canada2270 Posts
On May 17 2013 07:33 101toss wrote: dont play ranked on patch day pretty good rule imo That's exactly why you play ranked on patch day. Had a bad game? Loss Forgiven. | ||
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thenexusp
United States3721 Posts
On May 17 2013 11:04 Capped wrote: With all the quality of life changes they do, you'd think they'd lose this adobe client really. Season 3, millions spent on advertising esports but cant create a decent client Q.Q Adobe Air isn't the problem, it's the crappy programming behind it. It's perfectly possible to create a good client in Adobe Air Also, if they make a new platform I guarantee it will be broken for at least three months as they iron everything that they missed. Legacy code systems are full of cruft, but they also have a lot of institutional wisdom baked in that isn't usually well-documented (e.g. we do this unintuitive coding so it gets better performance and doesn't take down the servers whenever more than 1,000,000 people are on) | ||
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