• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 08:35
CEST 14:35
KST 21:35
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy18ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book20
Community News
$5,000 WardiTV TLMC tournament - Presented by Monster Energy2GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding3Weekly Cups (May 30-Apr 5): herO, Clem, SHIN win0[BSL22] RO32 Group Stage4Weekly Cups (March 23-29): herO takes triple6
StarCraft 2
General
Quebec Clan still alive ? BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Weekly Cups (May 30-Apr 5): herO, Clem, SHIN win Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info
Tourneys
Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding $5,000 WardiTV TLMC tournament - Presented by Monster Energy RSL Season 4 announced for March-April
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 520 Moving Fees Mutation # 519 Inner Power Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion ASL21 General Discussion so ive been playing broodwar for a week straight. Gypsy to Korea Pros React To: JaeDong vs Queen
Tourneys
Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro24 Group F [BSL22] RO32 Group B - Sunday 21:00 CEST
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Muta micro map competition What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game Nintendo Switch Thread Darkest Dungeon
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread The China Politics Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Trading/Investing Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How Streamers Inspire Gamers…
TrAiDoS
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Electronics
mantequilla
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2691 users

[Patch 3.07: Nerf Everything Not Nami] General Discussion…

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 225 226 227 228 229 351 Next
Looks like we're back to status quo. Hope more of you lurkers unburrow and talk with us. :3

If you have any issues or comments about the new design, feel free to PM Neo.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
May 31 2013 21:37 GMT
#4521
So GGU apparently now called Team Coast Gaming... TCG?
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
May 31 2013 21:38 GMT
#4522
On June 01 2013 06:36 Sufficiency wrote:
Awww+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Smash is famous, L2 players know him.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 31 2013 21:43 GMT
#4523
On June 01 2013 06:17 Arctyrus wrote:
Also I really, really like Zed's skillset and I was wondering how hard the recent nerfs hit. Is he still a viable pick when I start playing ranked, or would my time be better spent learning someone else to go top with?

He's very, very good.
Thus very, very popular.
And very, very banned, so you can learn him, doesn't mean you'll get to play him much tho. ^^'
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-31 21:50:35
May 31 2013 21:48 GMT
#4524
On May 31 2013 23:52 canikizu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2013 23:33 c.Deadly wrote:
On May 31 2013 22:14 Vlanitak wrote:
So question about this whole MMR thing
My friend, in silver 1, places against high gold (1-2tier) and low plats (5-4). If the system is as I understand this is because he has won enough that his MMR is higher than what silver 1 would imply, and hence gets queued against people closer to his MMR. But what I dont get is why he gains +5 for winning and -20 for losing. if the MMR thing is correct should these numbers be a lot closer?


Riot calls it "clamping", when you're about to be promoted to a new league your LP gains slow down to ensure that you actually belong in the new league, since you can't be demoted from there. Basically his MMR has to be mid-Gold before getting up for promotion. Remember that those players in high Gold tiers and low Plat can possibly have MMR lower than their displayed tier, and your friend is actually just approaching a low-mid Gold MMR. If he wins his promotion series and his MMR is actually super high, it's possible he will skip divisions to Gold IV or Gold III.

How long does this "clamping" period last though? Because if he keeps wining 4 games and lose 1, he will keep on losing his LP and tanks down or something.

And is there a point somewhere that the LP he earns for wining can get higher again? Or he will always gain +5 and lose -20 even when he's in BronzeV? I doubt his MMR is lower than BronzeV and the system slow down to make sure he belongs there.


For promotion from leagues, you have an uncertainty rating. I think this one is different from the expected MMR, because it doesn't want you to streak your way into a higher league. Basically, there's a threshold around +100 from the league cutoff. You need to get your MMR - uncertainty above that. If you win streak, your uncertainty can increase faster than MMR, and it will get increasingly difficult to get promoted(LP clamping). A couple of losses though, and your uncertainty drops rapidly, and you'll very quickly get to a point where you'll go right back into a promotion series if you lose.


As for favourite champs

top: irelia>jayce
mid: anivia>jayce>swain
jungle: J4,xin,udyr,noct,skarner etc. I jungle almost everything.
support: Sona, janna, lux
AD: I don't adc, but maybe urgot?
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
May 31 2013 22:13 GMT
#4525
On June 01 2013 04:55 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2013 04:53 WaveofShadow wrote:
I haven't played in months so I DON'T KNOW ANYMORE
/cry


d/w I got this.

Top: Baby
Jungle: Baby
Mid: Baby
Ad: Baby
Support: Baby

Alright I'm super late on this post but I laughed pretty heartily irl.
Bronze player stuck in platinum
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-31 22:23:34
May 31 2013 22:21 GMT
#4526
Top: Cho
Jungle: Noc
Mid: Pretty random
ADC: Ez/Cait
Supp: Sona

My list is so misleading though I abuse free weeks so much outside of ranked, and play so much random shit based on how I'm feeling.

Also: omg Wheat posted in LoL GD. I know he actually plays now and then(when he's not fungaling Muta's), but I don't think I've seen him post in here ever.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
Louuster
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2869 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-31 22:25:33
May 31 2013 22:25 GMT
#4527
Since all the cool ppl are doing it

Top: Jayce, Irelia, Riven
Jungle: Jarvam, Cho
Mid: I dont mid but I guess Ryze if I have to
AD: Mf, cait
Sup: Janna, Sona

I usually dont mind filling in so I play mostly jungle/support
p.s. RIP Olaf my old pick for both top and jungle
Kim Taek Yong fighting~
Wolfstan
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada605 Posts
May 31 2013 22:27 GMT
#4528
Silver 2
Top: Riven
Mid: Kayle
ADC: Draven
Support: Leona
Jungle: Amumu/Shyvanna
EG - ROOT - Gambit Gaming
OmegaKnetus
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany431 Posts
May 31 2013 22:28 GMT
#4529
Top: Tryndamere/Vlad
Mid: Jayce/Viktor
Adc: MF/Varus
Support: Janna
Jungle: Rengar
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
May 31 2013 22:39 GMT
#4530
Top: Don't make me go here >.> Garen/Renekton
Mid: Lux/Annie/TF
Jungle: Nunu!/J4/Xin/Voli
ADC: MF/Varus/Graves/Cait
Support: Threshing kids all day erre day.

Silver 1 on my promo now. I went from getting 3 points a win at the start to like 12-21 a win. I'm on a pretty big streak, went from 12 under .500 to 14 over from monday. Pretty happy with my play this week
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
May 31 2013 22:42 GMT
#4531
These CLG scrims are hilarious. "What the fuck are we doing?" lol
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
niTsEn
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany86 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-31 22:43:29
May 31 2013 22:42 GMT
#4532
Top: Shen
Mid: Lux/Karthus
Jungle: Naut/Heca/Noc
AD: Ashe
Support: Leona/Lulu/Blitz
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
May 31 2013 22:43 GMT
#4533
top trundle
mid fiora
jungle udyr
ad wat
support soraka
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-31 22:46:53
May 31 2013 22:45 GMT
#4534
On June 01 2013 06:20 Vei wrote:
Does anyone have any tips/tricks, to CS better as an AP mid from lvls1-7? Particularly Ahri and Orianna I guess. I don't know why but my CS earlygame is really my weakest point of league, it makes me upset because I know in sc2 if your early game macro isn't near-perfect you're basically setting yourself so far behind / games can be won thru macro alone.. and I can def see that being the case if you're csing like a Korean on League... but yeah. recently I've been using S more (i barely used it in lane, i'd just move around instead of stopping) and it helps.

There are a couple crutches you can use to improve your CS'ings, from AD runes to Dorans start or else picking a champ that can waveclear or CS easy peasy (Annie or TF for instance).

However, there are definite ways to improve upon CSing beyond simply practice. For instance, to last hit under tower in the early game, 2-tower shots+1 autoattack will kill a melee minion (as towers deal just under half health to a melee minion), while 1 tower-shot+2 autoattacks will kill a ranged minion (if you're playing ADC with AD runes and a Dorans start, this may just be 1 AA). Knowing this formula allows you to prepare minions for last hitting under tower if you need to.

Beyond this, as you're learning, using Stop can help, but moving around between autos is generally how to last hit (because standing still can sometimes be rather dangerous versus skill-shot based chars or certain jungles).

Orianna generally has an easy time CSing thanks to her passive, while Ahri doesn't until she levels up to the point where she can sustain constant wavepush into roam.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
May 31 2013 22:59 GMT
#4535
On June 01 2013 06:17 Arctyrus wrote:
Felt inspired by the top post, so here goes my first post in the LoL subforum after lurking for some time.

I'm a fairly new player (lvl 14 or so), and I generally dont have the time to play much, but I've just passed a huge exam, and therefore by some sick design have three months vacation, which means more time to play. I'd like to ask if any of you would play a few games, hopefully pass on some experience and help me learn the game

Also I really, really like Zed's skillset and I was wondering how hard the recent nerfs hit. Is he still a viable pick when I start playing ranked, or would my time be better spent learning someone else to go top with?

Cheers!

Edit: I play on EU west.

Don't forget to come on the LiquidParty channel ! We don't always speak about LoL but don't be afraid to ask questions.
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-31 23:04:41
May 31 2013 23:03 GMT
#4536
Doublelift just said that they will never scrim against Velocity again.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Spaiku
Profile Joined July 2012
Spain1114 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-31 23:15:38
May 31 2013 23:03 GMT
#4537
On June 01 2013 07:42 Diamond wrote:
These CLG scrims are hilarious. "What the fuck are we doing?" lol

Doublelift "We are never scriming Velocity again" LOL

They keep pausing for internet problems -_-
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
May 31 2013 23:37 GMT
#4538
On June 01 2013 08:03 Spaiku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2013 07:42 Diamond wrote:
These CLG scrims are hilarious. "What the fuck are we doing?" lol

Doublelift "We are never scriming Velocity again" LOL

They keep pausing for internet problems -_-

Have they gotten their housing in order yet?
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
May 31 2013 23:48 GMT
#4539
nope
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
swim224
Profile Joined May 2010
Botswana368 Posts
May 31 2013 23:51 GMT
#4540
Top: Riven/irelia
Mid: Zyra
Jungle: Noc
AD: Ezreal
Support: Zyra
....unless Taeja suddenly parachutes into the studio with explosions behind him and lands on a skateboard which he jumps over the booth before jumping in. If that happened it would be so sweet it would be physically impossible for them to lose. - Haydin
Prev 1 225 226 227 228 229 351 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Team League
11:00
Playoffs Day 2
WardiTV787
ComeBackTV 592
Rex104
3DClanTV 49
Liquipedia
CranKy Ducklings
10:00
Sea Duckling Open #144
CranKy Ducklings82
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko359
Rex 104
trigger 6
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 52403
Sea 3113
Jaedong 1400
EffOrt 426
Hyuk 414
Mini 373
Shuttle 354
firebathero 331
Last 214
Light 213
[ Show more ]
ggaemo 164
Zeus 148
hero 130
PianO 87
Pusan 84
Shine 61
Shinee 55
[sc1f]eonzerg 41
Hm[arnc] 40
Free 37
HiyA 35
Barracks 29
scan(afreeca) 27
yabsab 19
ToSsGirL 19
Sacsri 18
Movie 17
Sexy 15
GoRush 14
Noble 11
ajuk12(nOOB) 9
Rock 9
Icarus 2
Terrorterran 1
Dota 2
Gorgc6211
Counter-Strike
zeus389
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor50
Other Games
singsing1963
B2W.Neo1029
XaKoH 569
Hui .118
QueenE52
RotterdaM0
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL16729
Other Games
BasetradeTV1221
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
CasterMuse 0
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP51
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos1975
• TFBlade1167
Upcoming Events
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2h 25m
IPSL
3h 25m
Hawk vs TBD
StRyKeR vs TBD
BSL
6h 25m
n0maD vs perroflaco
TerrOr vs ZZZero
MadiNho vs WolFix
DragOn vs LancerX
Sparkling Tuna Cup
21h 25m
WardiTV Team League
22h 25m
OSC
1d
BSL
1d 6h
Sterling vs Azhi_Dahaki
Napoleon vs Mazur
Jimin vs Nesh
spx vs Strudel
IPSL
1d 6h
Artosis vs TBD
Napoleon vs TBD
Replay Cast
1d 20h
Wardi Open
1d 21h
[ Show More ]
Afreeca Starleague
1d 21h
Soma vs YSC
Sharp vs sSak
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Snow vs PianO
hero vs Rain
GSL
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
Escore
5 days
Korean StarCraft League
6 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W2
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W3
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
RSL Revival: Season 5
WardiTV TLMC #16
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.