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Looks like we're back to status quo. Hope more of you lurkers unburrow and talk with us. :3

If you have any issues or comments about the new design, feel free to PM Neo.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
May 31 2013 21:37 GMT
#4521
So GGU apparently now called Team Coast Gaming... TCG?
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
May 31 2013 21:38 GMT
#4522
On June 01 2013 06:36 Sufficiency wrote:
Awww+ Show Spoiler +
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Smash is famous, L2 players know him.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 31 2013 21:43 GMT
#4523
On June 01 2013 06:17 Arctyrus wrote:
Also I really, really like Zed's skillset and I was wondering how hard the recent nerfs hit. Is he still a viable pick when I start playing ranked, or would my time be better spent learning someone else to go top with?

He's very, very good.
Thus very, very popular.
And very, very banned, so you can learn him, doesn't mean you'll get to play him much tho. ^^'
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-31 21:50:35
May 31 2013 21:48 GMT
#4524
On May 31 2013 23:52 canikizu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2013 23:33 c.Deadly wrote:
On May 31 2013 22:14 Vlanitak wrote:
So question about this whole MMR thing
My friend, in silver 1, places against high gold (1-2tier) and low plats (5-4). If the system is as I understand this is because he has won enough that his MMR is higher than what silver 1 would imply, and hence gets queued against people closer to his MMR. But what I dont get is why he gains +5 for winning and -20 for losing. if the MMR thing is correct should these numbers be a lot closer?


Riot calls it "clamping", when you're about to be promoted to a new league your LP gains slow down to ensure that you actually belong in the new league, since you can't be demoted from there. Basically his MMR has to be mid-Gold before getting up for promotion. Remember that those players in high Gold tiers and low Plat can possibly have MMR lower than their displayed tier, and your friend is actually just approaching a low-mid Gold MMR. If he wins his promotion series and his MMR is actually super high, it's possible he will skip divisions to Gold IV or Gold III.

How long does this "clamping" period last though? Because if he keeps wining 4 games and lose 1, he will keep on losing his LP and tanks down or something.

And is there a point somewhere that the LP he earns for wining can get higher again? Or he will always gain +5 and lose -20 even when he's in BronzeV? I doubt his MMR is lower than BronzeV and the system slow down to make sure he belongs there.


For promotion from leagues, you have an uncertainty rating. I think this one is different from the expected MMR, because it doesn't want you to streak your way into a higher league. Basically, there's a threshold around +100 from the league cutoff. You need to get your MMR - uncertainty above that. If you win streak, your uncertainty can increase faster than MMR, and it will get increasingly difficult to get promoted(LP clamping). A couple of losses though, and your uncertainty drops rapidly, and you'll very quickly get to a point where you'll go right back into a promotion series if you lose.


As for favourite champs

top: irelia>jayce
mid: anivia>jayce>swain
jungle: J4,xin,udyr,noct,skarner etc. I jungle almost everything.
support: Sona, janna, lux
AD: I don't adc, but maybe urgot?
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
May 31 2013 22:13 GMT
#4525
On June 01 2013 04:55 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2013 04:53 WaveofShadow wrote:
I haven't played in months so I DON'T KNOW ANYMORE
/cry


d/w I got this.

Top: Baby
Jungle: Baby
Mid: Baby
Ad: Baby
Support: Baby

Alright I'm super late on this post but I laughed pretty heartily irl.
Bronze player stuck in platinum
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-31 22:23:34
May 31 2013 22:21 GMT
#4526
Top: Cho
Jungle: Noc
Mid: Pretty random
ADC: Ez/Cait
Supp: Sona

My list is so misleading though I abuse free weeks so much outside of ranked, and play so much random shit based on how I'm feeling.

Also: omg Wheat posted in LoL GD. I know he actually plays now and then(when he's not fungaling Muta's), but I don't think I've seen him post in here ever.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
Louuster
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2869 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-31 22:25:33
May 31 2013 22:25 GMT
#4527
Since all the cool ppl are doing it

Top: Jayce, Irelia, Riven
Jungle: Jarvam, Cho
Mid: I dont mid but I guess Ryze if I have to
AD: Mf, cait
Sup: Janna, Sona

I usually dont mind filling in so I play mostly jungle/support
p.s. RIP Olaf my old pick for both top and jungle
Kim Taek Yong fighting~
Wolfstan
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada605 Posts
May 31 2013 22:27 GMT
#4528
Silver 2
Top: Riven
Mid: Kayle
ADC: Draven
Support: Leona
Jungle: Amumu/Shyvanna
EG - ROOT - Gambit Gaming
OmegaKnetus
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany431 Posts
May 31 2013 22:28 GMT
#4529
Top: Tryndamere/Vlad
Mid: Jayce/Viktor
Adc: MF/Varus
Support: Janna
Jungle: Rengar
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
May 31 2013 22:39 GMT
#4530
Top: Don't make me go here >.> Garen/Renekton
Mid: Lux/Annie/TF
Jungle: Nunu!/J4/Xin/Voli
ADC: MF/Varus/Graves/Cait
Support: Threshing kids all day erre day.

Silver 1 on my promo now. I went from getting 3 points a win at the start to like 12-21 a win. I'm on a pretty big streak, went from 12 under .500 to 14 over from monday. Pretty happy with my play this week
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
May 31 2013 22:42 GMT
#4531
These CLG scrims are hilarious. "What the fuck are we doing?" lol
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
niTsEn
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany86 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-31 22:43:29
May 31 2013 22:42 GMT
#4532
Top: Shen
Mid: Lux/Karthus
Jungle: Naut/Heca/Noc
AD: Ashe
Support: Leona/Lulu/Blitz
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
May 31 2013 22:43 GMT
#4533
top trundle
mid fiora
jungle udyr
ad wat
support soraka
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-31 22:46:53
May 31 2013 22:45 GMT
#4534
On June 01 2013 06:20 Vei wrote:
Does anyone have any tips/tricks, to CS better as an AP mid from lvls1-7? Particularly Ahri and Orianna I guess. I don't know why but my CS earlygame is really my weakest point of league, it makes me upset because I know in sc2 if your early game macro isn't near-perfect you're basically setting yourself so far behind / games can be won thru macro alone.. and I can def see that being the case if you're csing like a Korean on League... but yeah. recently I've been using S more (i barely used it in lane, i'd just move around instead of stopping) and it helps.

There are a couple crutches you can use to improve your CS'ings, from AD runes to Dorans start or else picking a champ that can waveclear or CS easy peasy (Annie or TF for instance).

However, there are definite ways to improve upon CSing beyond simply practice. For instance, to last hit under tower in the early game, 2-tower shots+1 autoattack will kill a melee minion (as towers deal just under half health to a melee minion), while 1 tower-shot+2 autoattacks will kill a ranged minion (if you're playing ADC with AD runes and a Dorans start, this may just be 1 AA). Knowing this formula allows you to prepare minions for last hitting under tower if you need to.

Beyond this, as you're learning, using Stop can help, but moving around between autos is generally how to last hit (because standing still can sometimes be rather dangerous versus skill-shot based chars or certain jungles).

Orianna generally has an easy time CSing thanks to her passive, while Ahri doesn't until she levels up to the point where she can sustain constant wavepush into roam.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
May 31 2013 22:59 GMT
#4535
On June 01 2013 06:17 Arctyrus wrote:
Felt inspired by the top post, so here goes my first post in the LoL subforum after lurking for some time.

I'm a fairly new player (lvl 14 or so), and I generally dont have the time to play much, but I've just passed a huge exam, and therefore by some sick design have three months vacation, which means more time to play. I'd like to ask if any of you would play a few games, hopefully pass on some experience and help me learn the game

Also I really, really like Zed's skillset and I was wondering how hard the recent nerfs hit. Is he still a viable pick when I start playing ranked, or would my time be better spent learning someone else to go top with?

Cheers!

Edit: I play on EU west.

Don't forget to come on the LiquidParty channel ! We don't always speak about LoL but don't be afraid to ask questions.
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-31 23:04:41
May 31 2013 23:03 GMT
#4536
Doublelift just said that they will never scrim against Velocity again.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Spaiku
Profile Joined July 2012
Spain1114 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-31 23:15:38
May 31 2013 23:03 GMT
#4537
On June 01 2013 07:42 Diamond wrote:
These CLG scrims are hilarious. "What the fuck are we doing?" lol

Doublelift "We are never scriming Velocity again" LOL

They keep pausing for internet problems -_-
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
May 31 2013 23:37 GMT
#4538
On June 01 2013 08:03 Spaiku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2013 07:42 Diamond wrote:
These CLG scrims are hilarious. "What the fuck are we doing?" lol

Doublelift "We are never scriming Velocity again" LOL

They keep pausing for internet problems -_-

Have they gotten their housing in order yet?
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
May 31 2013 23:48 GMT
#4539
nope
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
swim224
Profile Joined May 2010
Botswana368 Posts
May 31 2013 23:51 GMT
#4540
Top: Riven/irelia
Mid: Zyra
Jungle: Noc
AD: Ezreal
Support: Zyra
....unless Taeja suddenly parachutes into the studio with explosions behind him and lands on a skateboard which he jumps over the booth before jumping in. If that happened it would be so sweet it would be physically impossible for them to lose. - Haydin
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