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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On May 05 2013 15:41 ticklishmusic wrote: it's surprising how may people just dont look at what items you build. built tanknivia, still got focused. its pretty stupid what happens when you try to kill someone with 3 RoA and double lives. Better focus that Bulwark / Locket Sona, so squishy... | ||
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
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Vanka
China1336 Posts
On May 05 2013 15:01 Gahlo wrote: Garen Vs. Garen would be fucking awful. Both Q, run at eachother, silence eachother, and most likely run away and wait for Q cooldown. You know, you could spin before you get silence... singed vs singed would be lol. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On May 05 2013 16:39 Vanka wrote: You know, you could spin before you get silence... singed vs singed would be lol. fiddlesticks vs fiddlesticks would be the best. | ||
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Djin)ftw(
Germany3357 Posts
Or zilean vs zilean lol xD noone gets a kill 75 minutes into the game | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On May 05 2013 17:08 Djin)ftw( wrote: Karthus vs Karthus. I wonder if it possible to not just trade kills. Oo Or zilean vs zilean lol xD noone gets a kill 75 minutes into the game either a 10 minute game or it only ends when one player faint from exhaustion or is unable to press r. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
Long story short, the Jayce totally destroyed the lane. It was at the level where I could just shield the Jayce and he jumped in on the enemy Ezreal and basically oneshot him. Also, every time he did his acceleration gate Q I just shielded him and it dunked the opponents for like half their HP. Continued into the lategame of course, where the Jayce basically 1v3d them at one point. I sort of wonder why Jayce is never played as the ADC. He was even supposed to toplane, probably isn't good at the ADC role, and did quite a bit of work. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On May 05 2013 17:13 Shikyo wrote: So this game we had Janna(me), Jayce, Nidalee, Nasus and the last pick was supposed to be ADC. However, he instalocked gragas and said he ignored all because we didn't ban Thresh and because Janna is a trash support. So we had to improvise and have Jayce go bot with me, Gragas mid and Nidalee top. Me and Jayce ended up laning against Lulu/Ezreal. Long story short, the Jayce totally destroyed the lane. It was at the level where I could just shield the Jayce and he jumped in on the enemy Ezreal and basically oneshot him. Also, every time he did his acceleration gate Q I just shielded him and it dunked the opponents for like half their HP. Continued into the lategame of course, where the Jayce basically 1v3d them at one point. I sort of wonder why Jayce is never played as the ADC. He was even supposed to toplane, probably isn't good at the ADC role, and did quite a bit of work. AA range is a stat that scales really well with basically everything. Jayce has low AA range, so unless he gets stupidly ahead, he falls off. Me and my friends tried so AD Jayce (usually with Lulu/Sona) when he first came out. Seemed alright, but we went back to traditional stuff, idr exactly why. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On May 05 2013 17:08 Djin)ftw( wrote: Or zilean vs zilean lol xD noone gets a kill 75 minutes into the game Zilean vs Zilean is a mana war. Without blue buff, it's actually possible for the game to end from towers because you can't stay without mana, and the lane uses mana really aggressively. | ||
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Mondeezy
United States1938 Posts
Have no clue how to deal with him once he starts getting beefy + botrk hurts. | ||
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Vanka
China1336 Posts
On May 05 2013 17:25 TheYango wrote: Zilean vs Zilean is a mana war. Without blue buff, it's actually possible for the game to end from towers because you can't stay without mana, and the lane uses mana really aggressively. Makes me wonder if ad zilean would be better in a mirror matchup LOL | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On May 05 2013 17:33 Mondeezy wrote: So is Trundle on anyone else's permaban list now? Have no clue how to deal with him once he starts getting beefy + botrk hurts. You deal with him the same way you have for 2 years except it's easier now? On May 05 2013 17:22 ticklishmusic wrote: AA range is a stat that scales really well with basically everything. Jayce has low AA range, so unless he gets stupidly ahead, he falls off. Me and my friends tried so AD Jayce (usually with Lulu/Sona) when he first came out. Seemed alright, but we went back to traditional stuff, idr exactly why. Jayce generally doesn't only autoattack in ranged form as a solo top though, why on earth would he need to do that as a bot lane ADC? | ||
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kainzero
United States5211 Posts
On May 05 2013 15:41 ticklishmusic wrote: it's surprising how may people just dont look at what items you build. built tanknivia, still got focused. its pretty stupid what happens when you try to kill someone with 3 RoA and double lives. i think the one thing i hate the most is when people say "why didn't you focus xxxxxx" since i am jungler for my arranged 5s team and the current strategies revolve around having budget tanks come from the jungle, i just learned that my favorite heroes tend not to be tanky... so now i have to learn how to play like that. being a good tank is more than just charging in blindly, but there's an art to distraction. not only do you want to make the enemy blow their cooldowns and autoattacks on you, but you also want them to work hard to try and make them spend time running after you to use their cooldowns while balancing the distance properly so that they can't engage on more damaging targets. it's realistic aggro management. so sometimes, it's not about them "focusing" you, but the fact that in the engagement, you play a good distraction role and you were able to disrupt them from really getting on bigger targets. combined with the fact that you are anivia and you still do good damage because of base damage and ratios and it's not easy getting past tanknivia. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On May 05 2013 18:12 kainzero wrote: i think the one thing i hate the most is when people say "why didn't you focus xxxxxx" since i am jungler for my arranged 5s team and the current strategies revolve around having budget tanks come from the jungle, i just learned that my favorite heroes tend not to be tanky... so now i have to learn how to play like that. being a good tank is more than just charging in blindly, but there's an art to distraction. not only do you want to make the enemy blow their cooldowns and autoattacks on you, but you also want them to work hard to try and make them spend time running after you to use their cooldowns while balancing the distance properly so that they can't engage on more damaging targets. it's realistic aggro management. so sometimes, it's not about them "focusing" you, but the fact that in the engagement, you play a good distraction role and you were able to disrupt them from really getting on bigger targets. combined with the fact that you are anivia and you still do good damage because of base damage and ratios and it's not easy getting past tanknivia. I find that the fights go best when the tanky champion zones the ADC so that he moves towards him, makes him focus him and kite back, then the tanky champion moves back towards the fight, maybe attacks people, then moves back towards the ADC and forces him to back away and so on. This seems to be 1000x more effective than the tanky champion chasing the ADC for half the map even though that might end up in a kill as well, because the tanky champion has the opportunity to go for low hp targets and so on. | ||
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Mondeezy
United States1938 Posts
On May 05 2013 17:47 Shikyo wrote: You deal with him the same way you have for 2 years except it's easier now? Jayce generally doesn't only autoattack in ranged form as a solo top though, why on earth would he need to do that as a bot lane ADC? Except I've played vs Trundle a grand total of like 3 times in the past year, and his ult got changed, and his W increases healing done now, so I really don't have a clue how to. Hence why I asked. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
His ult is actually weaker now in the lategame. | ||
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Not a Q.Q, just an observation. Carry hard or go home really. | ||
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Lmui
Canada6214 Posts
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Djin)ftw(
Germany3357 Posts
Right now I have ashe, but I dont like her, the attack animation is awful imho. Trist, which I really come to love, but I wanna learn new champions. corki, who i currently play and who feels very weak because of his low mana pool sivir, which I also dont like. no escape, no peel, people just dive on you and kill you while you desperately try to kite them with your passive. Really annoying. So, twitch is cheap. Kog 'maw, graves and draven look really fun though, I dont know. Never played them t.t maybe you can help? Oo | ||
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