EPTOn May 02 2013 02:41 divinesage wrote:
How would you rank the All-Star ADCs in terms of skill?
How would you rank the All-Star ADCs in terms of skill?
Uzi>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>pray ~ dl >>>>>>>> whatever scrub they have for eu.
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
Uzi>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>pray ~ dl >>>>>>>> whatever scrub they have for eu. | ||
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GettingIt
1656 Posts
On May 02 2013 02:14 kainzero wrote: i'm finding this game to be more and more boring when it's not arranged 5s Then dont play it unless it is arranged 5s. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
Pretty much need to buy 2 wards for river and the further lanebrush. If can't buy 2 then imo you're better off with none so that you don't get the false sense of security. Of course if the enemy toplaner doesn't notice where you place the ward it can work but all you need to do is follow them when they move towards the river to place one. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
On May 02 2013 03:02 Shikyo wrote: So I think buying a ward at the start is pretty much useless. It just gives you a false sense of security. Even at silver 3 most people are bypassing them or having the solo top pink ward them. Kind of pointless buying a ward if you're like, blue, because if you ward the tribrush and the laner notices it then the jungler just comes from somewhere else while you have a false sense of security. Pretty much need to buy 2 wards for river and the further lanebrush. If can't buy 2 then imo you're better off with none so that you don't get the false sense of security. Of course if the enemy toplaner doesn't notice where you place the ward it can work but all you need to do is follow them when they move towards the river to place one. Better to buy a ward, use it, and assume the enemy jungler is wherever your ward is not. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On May 02 2013 03:04 Ketara wrote: Better to buy a ward, use it, and assume the enemy jungler is wherever your ward is not. So then you get denied all the same because you can't go close and you wasted 75 gold? On May 02 2013 02:22 WaveofShadow wrote: Good lord it's not a fucking vagina; none of you neckbeards have any idea about human/female anatomy apparently. /rant Or we're not native english-speakers who haven't had the need for the word and it wasn't taught at school. Let's see. Dictionary gives vagina. I guess Finnish doesn't have the mystery word at all, then. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On May 02 2013 03:05 Shikyo wrote: So then you get denied all the same because you can't go close and you wasted 75 gold? Better to get denied a little than to give up kill/assist gold, and then fall even further behind in farm because you have to get back to lane/they pushed to your tower. | ||
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kainzero
United States5211 Posts
On May 02 2013 02:38 Alaric wrote: Let's talk about calculus, learning a foreign language or Pokemon.  i tried to read the japanese wikipedia entry on calculus. it made me snorlax | ||
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mordek
United States12705 Posts
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On May 02 2013 03:02 Shikyo wrote: So I think buying a ward at the start is pretty much useless. It just gives you a false sense of security. Even at silver 3 most people are bypassing them or having the solo top pink ward them. Kind of pointless buying a ward if you're like, blue, because if you ward the tribrush and the laner notices it then the jungler just comes from somewhere else while you have a false sense of security. Pretty much need to buy 2 wards for river and the further lanebrush. If can't buy 2 then imo you're better off with none so that you don't get the false sense of security. Of course if the enemy toplaner doesn't notice where you place the ward it can work but all you need to do is follow them when they move towards the river to place one. I just ward the area right outside the tribrush. I'm Silver 2 and I always check for wards as a jungler, but I don't think most junglers here do this. I don't have to stop every gank in every game. And I feel like most players are only good at one role because they want to get higher Elo and the best way to do that is to specialize. I would say about half the time my jungler is not used to jungling or ganking because they got forced to do the jungling role or they wanted to try out a recently buffed champion that they saw on stream. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23342 Posts
buying a pink ward is a gamble because there are 2 locations you can place your ward and its also more expensive. | ||
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kainzero
United States5211 Posts
On May 02 2013 03:02 Shikyo wrote: So I think buying a ward at the start is pretty much useless. It just gives you a false sense of security. Even at silver 3 most people are bypassing them or having the solo top pink ward them. Kind of pointless buying a ward if you're like, blue, because if you ward the tribrush and the laner notices it then the jungler just comes from somewhere else while you have a false sense of security. Pretty much need to buy 2 wards for river and the further lanebrush. If can't buy 2 then imo you're better off with none so that you don't get the false sense of security. Of course if the enemy toplaner doesn't notice where you place the ward it can work but all you need to do is follow them when they move towards the river to place one. how do you have a false sense of security if you already know that it's not completely safe? you can do a number of things and a lot of it depends on the lane matchup and the jungler, and the combination of CCs and gap-closers to determine your safe zone. if you're top lane blueside you need to ward the river for sure. you need to ward tribush if you push to tower. the lane brush can be warded but it's very rare because it doesn't offer as much map control... i've seen it in professional games, however. if you ward the river and the enemy sees it, the enemy jungler can only gank through lane (excluding special ganks like ward hops or flag toss). that's actually a very severe limitation on the jungler, because there is only one path, it's farther away from jungle camps, and your path is limited. in addition, because your path to gank is limited, it sets up counterganks very easily. alternatively you can be a little bit more discreet with your warding. warding before you get in lane. warding different spots. warding from different spots (practicing warding over trees, etc). warding works as deterrence. if you understand the security you get from a ward as well as the disadvantages, then it perfectly makes sense. wards also work in combinatorial ways. if you ward river and your mid laner wards wraiths, that's a really powerful combination. you generally get a good idea of where the jungler is and you can compensate for the unknown because you have additional information in the jungler timing. to say wards are useless because people go around them is silly. it's because you force people to go around them and you can plan around that. | ||
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Phunkapotamus
United States496 Posts
Remove summoner spells. Give everyone an additional ability: A Graves-like dash with no bonus stats, just a dash that uses summoner spell hotkeys. Call it a wavedash. Put it on a .5-1.0 second CD. Let everyone see when a character's ultimate is ready somehow on the UI. Reduce item cooldowns so the max is 60 seconds. You now have LoL smash brothers. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
Also SSBM is way deeper a game than LoL and it's not a good concept in 3d | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
if a midlaner just buys wards and puts them down properly, the team should be gank proof except for stuff like j4 and in-lanes. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
Is there any time when it's a correct item to build? I thought the conventional wisdom was it was just always bad all the time and you should just be sticking on Madreds if you're one of the few junglers who actually still uses Madreds over Elder Lizard. If that's the case, why is it even still in the game, because people still build it. | ||
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greggy
United Kingdom1483 Posts
On May 02 2013 03:02 Shikyo wrote: So I think buying a ward at the start is pretty much useless. It just gives you a false sense of security. Even at silver 3 most people are bypassing them or having the solo top pink ward them. Kind of pointless buying a ward if you're like, blue, because if you ward the tribrush and the laner notices it then the jungler just comes from somewhere else while you have a false sense of security. Pretty much need to buy 2 wards for river and the further lanebrush. If can't buy 2 then imo you're better off with none so that you don't get the false sense of security. Of course if the enemy toplaner doesn't notice where you place the ward it can work but all you need to do is follow them when they move towards the river to place one. if you're blue and ward river, the jungler can only come via lane and if you're slightly pushed you should see it coming; if you're freezing then you're safe at the tower unless you're super low on hp. pretty much the same applies if you're purple except you ward the tri instead. if he gets pink then just either shove hard asap and buy a pink ward yourself and laugh, or you could tell your jungler to come rape him 1v2 when he goes to kill your ward, it's silver 3 and they'll fall for that shit every time | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On May 02 2013 03:41 Phunkapotamus wrote: Guys, I have a great idea. Remove summoner spells. Give everyone an additional ability: A Graves-like dash with no bonus stats, just a dash that uses summoner spell hotkeys. Call it a wavedash. Put it on a .5-1.0 second CD. Let everyone see when a character's ultimate is ready somehow on the UI. Reduce item cooldowns so the max is 60 seconds. You now have LoL smash brothers. Uh...I think I'll just play Project M instead... | ||
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TSBspartacus
England1046 Posts
On May 02 2013 03:54 Ketara wrote: What's up with Wriggles Lantern these days. Is there any time when it's a correct item to build? I thought the conventional wisdom was it was just always bad all the time and you should just be sticking on Madreds if you're one of the few junglers who actually still uses Madreds over Elder Lizard. If that's the case, why is it even still in the game, because people still build it. It's bad. What with sightstone being a much better pikup if you want the wards and better items to put the lifestone on theres no point. I get madreds and vamp sceptre on Nocturne, but rarely upgrade to lantern since there's not that much point to be honest. I would buy it if I was somehow fed enough to grab it on my first back, but even then there's probably a few better items you could grab instead. It is really cheap though, just if you don't need the lifesteal then it's a pointless buy that slows down your other items which offer a lot more in terms of ganking and getting your laners fed. | ||
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Phunkapotamus
United States496 Posts
On May 02 2013 03:50 Shikyo wrote: LoL smash brothers melee* Also SSBM is way deeper a game than LoL and it's not a good concept in 3d Lol is 2d just like smash. It's only rendered in 3d. Even abilities that make you jump aren't actually removing you from the 2d plane- it's just a visual quirk. Your collision and origin are still on the "ground". The character is rendered at a different height to represent the physics state change. I actually came up with this idea on how to make LoL a more like a fighting game. The burden of knowledge that 5 minute flash timers and 2 minute ultimates create is annoying for someone like me who relies on reactions and twitch mechanics. I don't like the if/else logic chain that long CD abilities create. Anyway, it's not to be taken seriously, but I figure if we were to evolve to the next level of MOBAS, then we can expect to see the removal of long CD abilities and the addition of short CD movement abilities. On May 02 2013 03:58 jcarlsoniv wrote: Uh...I think I'll just play Project M instead... I love project M, but my Wii dvd rom is dying and I can't get it to work off a hard drive My gamedev pipe dream is to make SSBM for PC with the same business model as LoL for funding additional character development. The only problem is getting a control scheme that works on keyboards as well as it works on controller- since your game won't sell if there's a burden of controller hardware to buy on top of the game itself. Don't ever get in the game industry if you want to work on personal projects. You end up spending too much time at work making games such that you don't want to make games at home :/ | ||
onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
Oh well, I always play the good guy in Fallout and Skyrim so it only makes sense I support the good guys. ICY PLANE IT IS | ||
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