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JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-14 20:44:16
May 14 2013 20:41 GMT
#3541
On May 15 2013 00:42 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2013 00:37 Solaris.playgu wrote:
On May 15 2013 00:31 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On May 15 2013 00:19 Ghost-z wrote:
On May 14 2013 23:19 thenexusp wrote:
On May 14 2013 22:51 red_ wrote:
On May 14 2013 22:31 upperbound wrote:
So I was playing Kog last night, and the enemy team had a Shaco who was splitpushing. I go bot to stop him and fire a Living Artillery that hits and deals damage, and the revealing eyes come up. But, he Qs immediately after the damage registers, and is no longer revealed (1 auto or 1 R would have killed him). Is that a bug or is that workinh as intended? I didn't think Shaco Q removed debuffs or status changes.


Kog's R doesn't reveal stealth. I don't think there's any cute wording that cues you into this, you just have to know that not all 'reveal' skills do it.

Yep, it's pretty arbitrary which 'reveal' skills reveal stealth.

(Only) the following reveal skills will straight-up reveal stealthed champions:
Caitlyn's traps
Nidalee's traps
Lee Sin's Q and E
Lulu's E
TF's Ult
Rengar's Ult

Elise's E (human form)


Imagine a world in which Elise's Spider Form E revealed stealth.... <>...


The horror lol


Now I kinda want to tell LoL horror stories... what would be scariest if it worked like X?

What if you could place as many Caitlyn traps as Nidalee traps... ogawd


Or as many as Teemo shrooms.

On May 15 2013 03:54 jimthelege wrote:
Random question for the always knowledgable TL LoL forumers: got 4800 ip, whose generally more fun to play: Brand or Orianna?


Brand was the first champion I remember being wowed by. He was an instant buy after he crushed me in mid. First champion I ever mastered.

Who was everyone else's firsts? Who popped your champion cherry?
LiquidLegends StaffWho is Jon Galt?
EquilasH
Profile Joined April 2009
Denmark2142 Posts
May 14 2013 20:44 GMT
#3542
My first buy was Ashe but the first champion I really got hooked on was Katarina (back when 5 bloodthirsters and a GA was the optimal build) and then later Akali when she was released.
wat
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 14 2013 20:47 GMT
#3543
Ryze was my first buy. But he was merely a means to getting Heimerdonger
liftlift > tsm
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
May 14 2013 20:47 GMT
#3544
Chogath, back before jungling was even a real thing I would take him solomid and run smite so I could take wraith camps on cd and get 8 minute RoA
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-14 20:50:07
May 14 2013 20:49 GMT
#3545
On May 15 2013 05:23 Simberto wrote:
That is what this system is designed to do. It is designed to confuse you and obscure how it works. I don't know WHY it is like that, though.

It's to prevent you from psychologically thinking you're as good as your peaks.

Say you were analyzing temperature data and it all looked like a mess because you're looking at peak temperature every day for 4 years. You could instead smooth out the data and see some decent trends and seasonality. Same thing with stocks.

Riot does this but their method seems to be rather artificial. I don't agree with the method because you convolute basic math with these "placement matches". If conditions. And while technically given enough time you are almost guaranteed to get to your right level, placement matches can screw you over 10 times in a row if you're just barely gold 5 and not silver 1.

I don't understand why Riot didn't just use some sort of smoothing algorithm (eg. moving averages).
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
May 14 2013 20:50 GMT
#3546
I played a lot of Cait and Singed when I first started, but Riven was the first one that I HAD to buy and spammed games with all day.
It's your boy Guzma!
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-14 20:53:28
May 14 2013 20:52 GMT
#3547
On May 15 2013 05:41 JonGalt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2013 00:42 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On May 15 2013 00:37 Solaris.playgu wrote:
On May 15 2013 00:31 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On May 15 2013 00:19 Ghost-z wrote:
On May 14 2013 23:19 thenexusp wrote:
On May 14 2013 22:51 red_ wrote:
On May 14 2013 22:31 upperbound wrote:
So I was playing Kog last night, and the enemy team had a Shaco who was splitpushing. I go bot to stop him and fire a Living Artillery that hits and deals damage, and the revealing eyes come up. But, he Qs immediately after the damage registers, and is no longer revealed (1 auto or 1 R would have killed him). Is that a bug or is that workinh as intended? I didn't think Shaco Q removed debuffs or status changes.


Kog's R doesn't reveal stealth. I don't think there's any cute wording that cues you into this, you just have to know that not all 'reveal' skills do it.

Yep, it's pretty arbitrary which 'reveal' skills reveal stealth.

(Only) the following reveal skills will straight-up reveal stealthed champions:
Caitlyn's traps
Nidalee's traps
Lee Sin's Q and E
Lulu's E
TF's Ult
Rengar's Ult

Elise's E (human form)


Imagine a world in which Elise's Spider Form E revealed stealth.... <<shudder>>...


The horror lol


Now I kinda want to tell LoL horror stories... what would be scariest if it worked like X?

What if you could place as many Caitlyn traps as Nidalee traps... ogawd


Or as many as Teemo shrooms.

Show nested quote +
On May 15 2013 03:54 jimthelege wrote:
Random question for the always knowledgable TL LoL forumers: got 4800 ip, whose generally more fun to play: Brand or Orianna?


Brand was the first champion I remember being wowed by. He was an instant buy after he crushed me in mid. First champion I ever mastered.

Who was everyone else's firsts? Who popped your champion cherry?

my first champion was Gragas. i think i spammed around 50-60 game with only Gragas. i loved his W and survivability

second was Orianna, third was lee singa.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
May 14 2013 20:53 GMT
#3548
My first was Mordekaiser. Still play him, love him.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
greggy
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom1483 Posts
May 14 2013 20:55 GMT
#3549
i started around ziggs patch and when playing with some friends i heard that riven was op. she also looked cool and had awesome abilities so i saved up and played a ton of her while leveling and in ranked
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
May 14 2013 20:57 GMT
#3550
Jax man. Jax is addictive to a lvl 5ish account. "WTF that dodge" "WTF that damage".

I went on a slaughtering spree.
Freeeeeeedom
ArchAngelSC
Profile Joined April 2012
England706 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-14 21:04:36
May 14 2013 21:04 GMT
#3551
On May 15 2013 05:41 JonGalt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2013 00:42 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On May 15 2013 00:37 Solaris.playgu wrote:
On May 15 2013 00:31 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On May 15 2013 00:19 Ghost-z wrote:
On May 14 2013 23:19 thenexusp wrote:
On May 14 2013 22:51 red_ wrote:
On May 14 2013 22:31 upperbound wrote:
So I was playing Kog last night, and the enemy team had a Shaco who was splitpushing. I go bot to stop him and fire a Living Artillery that hits and deals damage, and the revealing eyes come up. But, he Qs immediately after the damage registers, and is no longer revealed (1 auto or 1 R would have killed him). Is that a bug or is that workinh as intended? I didn't think Shaco Q removed debuffs or status changes.


Kog's R doesn't reveal stealth. I don't think there's any cute wording that cues you into this, you just have to know that not all 'reveal' skills do it.

Yep, it's pretty arbitrary which 'reveal' skills reveal stealth.

(Only) the following reveal skills will straight-up reveal stealthed champions:
Caitlyn's traps
Nidalee's traps
Lee Sin's Q and E
Lulu's E
TF's Ult
Rengar's Ult

Elise's E (human form)


Imagine a world in which Elise's Spider Form E revealed stealth.... <<shudder>>...


The horror lol


Now I kinda want to tell LoL horror stories... what would be scariest if it worked like X?

What if you could place as many Caitlyn traps as Nidalee traps... ogawd


Or as many as Teemo shrooms.

Show nested quote +
On May 15 2013 03:54 jimthelege wrote:
Random question for the always knowledgable TL LoL forumers: got 4800 ip, whose generally more fun to play: Brand or Orianna?


Brand was the first champion I remember being wowed by. He was an instant buy after he crushed me in mid. First champion I ever mastered.

Who was everyone else's firsts? Who popped your champion cherry?

Xin Zhao was my first. Been playing him ever since :D Absolute beast of a champ.

I was so sad a few months ago when everyone else realised how good he was and then he got nerfed
Sunaj
Profile Joined November 2009
Canada2041 Posts
May 14 2013 21:04 GMT
#3552
I started playing at Viktor, and I fell in love with Ahri* then and now, still in the throes of K-pop*, and Morgana, who was my first attempt at really farming.
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
May 14 2013 21:06 GMT
#3553
On May 15 2013 05:41 JonGalt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2013 00:42 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On May 15 2013 00:37 Solaris.playgu wrote:
On May 15 2013 00:31 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On May 15 2013 00:19 Ghost-z wrote:
On May 14 2013 23:19 thenexusp wrote:
On May 14 2013 22:51 red_ wrote:
On May 14 2013 22:31 upperbound wrote:
So I was playing Kog last night, and the enemy team had a Shaco who was splitpushing. I go bot to stop him and fire a Living Artillery that hits and deals damage, and the revealing eyes come up. But, he Qs immediately after the damage registers, and is no longer revealed (1 auto or 1 R would have killed him). Is that a bug or is that workinh as intended? I didn't think Shaco Q removed debuffs or status changes.


Kog's R doesn't reveal stealth. I don't think there's any cute wording that cues you into this, you just have to know that not all 'reveal' skills do it.

Yep, it's pretty arbitrary which 'reveal' skills reveal stealth.

(Only) the following reveal skills will straight-up reveal stealthed champions:
Caitlyn's traps
Nidalee's traps
Lee Sin's Q and E
Lulu's E
TF's Ult
Rengar's Ult

Elise's E (human form)


Imagine a world in which Elise's Spider Form E revealed stealth.... <>...


The horror lol


Now I kinda want to tell LoL horror stories... what would be scariest if it worked like X?

What if you could place as many Caitlyn traps as Nidalee traps... ogawd


Or as many as Teemo shrooms.


What if there was a champion who did true damage that reset
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mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
May 14 2013 21:07 GMT
#3554
Warwick was my first champ
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Solaris.playgu
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Sweden480 Posts
May 14 2013 21:09 GMT
#3555
Udyr was probably the first I got hooked on. I played my 12-13 first summoner levels trying to jungle Lee Sin, and it didn't really go that well. Then I bought Udyr, and suddenly I could take my first buff before level 4. Good times :D
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
May 14 2013 21:13 GMT
#3556
On May 15 2013 05:23 Simberto wrote:
That is what this system is designed to do. It is designed to confuse you and obscure how it works. I don't know WHY it is like that, though.

Can we avoid statements like this please? It's like saying "League of Legends was designed to cater to casual noobs who don't know how to play real games"
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
May 14 2013 21:15 GMT
#3557
On May 15 2013 06:13 thenexusp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2013 05:23 Simberto wrote:
That is what this system is designed to do. It is designed to confuse you and obscure how it works. I don't know WHY it is like that, though.

Can we avoid statements like this please? It's like saying "League of Legends was designed to cater to casual noobs who don't know how to play real games"

I think he was only referring to the league/"elo" display system not the game...
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Leeto
Profile Joined August 2007
United States1320 Posts
May 14 2013 21:19 GMT
#3558
My first hero was TF. I started playing around the time of IEM Guangzhou, and after watching Misaya destroy everyone with him I bought him and played only TF for a couple months. This was back when AP TF was a pretty troll pick and every time I picked him I'd get flamed in champ select. I'd then proceed to carry every game. Yeah I'm a hipster.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
May 14 2013 21:24 GMT
#3559
On May 15 2013 05:41 JonGalt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2013 00:42 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On May 15 2013 00:37 Solaris.playgu wrote:
On May 15 2013 00:31 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On May 15 2013 00:19 Ghost-z wrote:
On May 14 2013 23:19 thenexusp wrote:
On May 14 2013 22:51 red_ wrote:
On May 14 2013 22:31 upperbound wrote:
So I was playing Kog last night, and the enemy team had a Shaco who was splitpushing. I go bot to stop him and fire a Living Artillery that hits and deals damage, and the revealing eyes come up. But, he Qs immediately after the damage registers, and is no longer revealed (1 auto or 1 R would have killed him). Is that a bug or is that workinh as intended? I didn't think Shaco Q removed debuffs or status changes.


Kog's R doesn't reveal stealth. I don't think there's any cute wording that cues you into this, you just have to know that not all 'reveal' skills do it.

Yep, it's pretty arbitrary which 'reveal' skills reveal stealth.

(Only) the following reveal skills will straight-up reveal stealthed champions:
Caitlyn's traps
Nidalee's traps
Lee Sin's Q and E
Lulu's E
TF's Ult
Rengar's Ult

Elise's E (human form)


Imagine a world in which Elise's Spider Form E revealed stealth.... <<shudder>>...


The horror lol


Now I kinda want to tell LoL horror stories... what would be scariest if it worked like X?

What if you could place as many Caitlyn traps as Nidalee traps... ogawd


Or as many as Teemo shrooms.

Show nested quote +
On May 15 2013 03:54 jimthelege wrote:
Random question for the always knowledgable TL LoL forumers: got 4800 ip, whose generally more fun to play: Brand or Orianna?


Brand was the first champion I remember being wowed by. He was an instant buy after he crushed me in mid. First champion I ever mastered.

Who was everyone else's firsts? Who popped your champion cherry?

Sona. Release sona, and I was going mid or support (before support was 0 CS), building double dorans + Innervating Locket, and rolling faces. It was glorious.
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
May 14 2013 21:28 GMT
#3560
On May 15 2013 06:15 mordek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2013 06:13 thenexusp wrote:
On May 15 2013 05:23 Simberto wrote:
That is what this system is designed to do. It is designed to confuse you and obscure how it works. I don't know WHY it is like that, though.

Can we avoid statements like this please? It's like saying "League of Legends was designed to cater to casual noobs who don't know how to play real games"

I think he was only referring to the league/"elo" display system not the game...

Yes, and saying it is "designed to" be confusing is disingenuous. maybe it is "is" confusing but the developers certainly didn't intend for people to get confused by it.
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