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kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
May 14 2013 18:19 GMT
#3521
i think someone here suggested lissandra top is better than lissandra mid.

after playing it yesterday, whoever you are, i think you're right. granted it was only one game top, and like all but one of my lissandra games, i lost. and i also built like an idiot (cloth5 against singed lulz) but i can see her being pretty dominant there whereas in mid she gets eaten up by a lot of bad matchups.
komokun
Profile Joined July 2011
France343 Posts
May 14 2013 18:27 GMT
#3522
On May 15 2013 02:56 Numy wrote:
If you watch the interview on gamespot he explains it. He never even realized until he upgraded his boots. It's a bad mistake but they were so far ahead it's not too bad.


I was more surprised that NO ONE on CLG noticed, I mean you can have pretty dumb oversights when under pressure (Nien backdoor hello) but it makes me question how often other members of CLG press tab.
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
May 14 2013 18:33 GMT
#3523
So I just learned that Twisted Fate's stun is 2 seconds at max level. I always figured it was a standard 1.5s or maybe 1s. Why the hell is it so long?

Learned the hard way, was playing Elise vs fed TF, he ulted on to me and I stunned as he appeared but he got a gold card off, and my stun wore off first despite my Treads.
I am the Town Medic.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-14 18:36:33
May 14 2013 18:34 GMT
#3524
On May 15 2013 02:58 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2013 02:56 Alaric wrote:
On May 15 2013 02:38 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On May 15 2013 02:29 onlywonderboy wrote:
On May 15 2013 02:28 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On May 15 2013 02:19 Dgiese wrote:
On May 15 2013 01:39 Requizen wrote:
On May 15 2013 01:34 obesechicken13 wrote:
If I clapped and put my hands on the gif could I transmute gold?

Transmuting gold is a felony level offense for an alchemist.

Besides, if you can clap your hands to transmute, you wouldn't need a circle anyway

Philo stone is OP.


New passive allows you to ignore the laws of equivalent exchange and build items without their components.

+ Show Spoiler [FMA spoilers] +
You just have to sacrifice your fellow players to get them.

Spoilers for like the first episode? lol. Also don't forget an arm and a leg.


lrn2FMA... that reveal is WAY later.

+ Show Spoiler [More FMA spoilers] +
That happens in Lab 5, when they realize the Homunculi are sacrificing prisoners to create the Philosopher's Stone.

Your spoiler was written in a way that suggested the sacrifices were used to obtain the items, not the stone.


...

Fine, you people with your logic and grammar win this time!

*mustache twirl, cape ruffle, escape through open window*

Just look at his name, he clearly is an authority on all things FMA.
On May 15 2013 03:19 kainzero wrote:
i think someone here suggested lissandra top is better than lissandra mid.

after playing it yesterday, whoever you are, i think you're right. granted it was only one game top, and like all but one of my lissandra games, i lost. and i also built like an idiot (cloth5 against singed lulz) but i can see her being pretty dominant there whereas in mid she gets eaten up by a lot of bad matchups.

I still think she's good mid, her roaming potential is strong and her laning isn't a bad as everyone makes it out to be.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
May 14 2013 18:37 GMT
#3525
On May 15 2013 03:34 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2013 02:58 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On May 15 2013 02:56 Alaric wrote:
On May 15 2013 02:38 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On May 15 2013 02:29 onlywonderboy wrote:
On May 15 2013 02:28 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On May 15 2013 02:19 Dgiese wrote:
On May 15 2013 01:39 Requizen wrote:
On May 15 2013 01:34 obesechicken13 wrote:
If I clapped and put my hands on the gif could I transmute gold?

Transmuting gold is a felony level offense for an alchemist.

Besides, if you can clap your hands to transmute, you wouldn't need a circle anyway

Philo stone is OP.


New passive allows you to ignore the laws of equivalent exchange and build items without their components.

+ Show Spoiler [FMA spoilers] +
You just have to sacrifice your fellow players to get them.

Spoilers for like the first episode? lol. Also don't forget an arm and a leg.


lrn2FMA... that reveal is WAY later.

+ Show Spoiler [More FMA spoilers] +
That happens in Lab 5, when they realize the Homunculi are sacrificing prisoners to create the Philosopher's Stone.

Your spoiler was written in a way that suggested the sacrifices were used to obtain the items, not the stone.


...

Fine, you people with your logic and grammar win this time!

*mustache twirl, cape ruffle, escape through open window*

Just look at his name, he clearly is an authority on all things FMA.
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2013 03:19 kainzero wrote:
i think someone here suggested lissandra top is better than lissandra mid.

after playing it yesterday, whoever you are, i think you're right. granted it was only one game top, and like all but one of my lissandra games, i lost. and i also built like an idiot (cloth5 against singed lulz) but i can see her being pretty dominant there whereas in mid she gets eaten up by a lot of bad matchups.

I still think she's good mid, her roaming potential is strong and her laning isn't a bad as everyone makes it out to be.


Alaric = Alphonse + Elric? IDK.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Jizla
Profile Joined July 2011
Scotland235 Posts
May 14 2013 18:54 GMT
#3526
Random question for the always knowledgable TL LoL forumers: got 4800 ip, whose generally more fun to play: Brand or Orianna?
Vanished.... Like a wrinkly ninja.....
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
May 14 2013 18:58 GMT
#3527
On May 15 2013 03:37 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2013 03:34 onlywonderboy wrote:
On May 15 2013 02:58 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On May 15 2013 02:56 Alaric wrote:
On May 15 2013 02:38 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On May 15 2013 02:29 onlywonderboy wrote:
On May 15 2013 02:28 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On May 15 2013 02:19 Dgiese wrote:
On May 15 2013 01:39 Requizen wrote:
On May 15 2013 01:34 obesechicken13 wrote:
If I clapped and put my hands on the gif could I transmute gold?

Transmuting gold is a felony level offense for an alchemist.

Besides, if you can clap your hands to transmute, you wouldn't need a circle anyway

Philo stone is OP.


New passive allows you to ignore the laws of equivalent exchange and build items without their components.

+ Show Spoiler [FMA spoilers] +
You just have to sacrifice your fellow players to get them.

Spoilers for like the first episode? lol. Also don't forget an arm and a leg.


lrn2FMA... that reveal is WAY later.

+ Show Spoiler [More FMA spoilers] +
That happens in Lab 5, when they realize the Homunculi are sacrificing prisoners to create the Philosopher's Stone.

Your spoiler was written in a way that suggested the sacrifices were used to obtain the items, not the stone.


...

Fine, you people with your logic and grammar win this time!

*mustache twirl, cape ruffle, escape through open window*

Just look at his name, he clearly is an authority on all things FMA.
On May 15 2013 03:19 kainzero wrote:
i think someone here suggested lissandra top is better than lissandra mid.

after playing it yesterday, whoever you are, i think you're right. granted it was only one game top, and like all but one of my lissandra games, i lost. and i also built like an idiot (cloth5 against singed lulz) but i can see her being pretty dominant there whereas in mid she gets eaten up by a lot of bad matchups.

I still think she's good mid, her roaming potential is strong and her laning isn't a bad as everyone makes it out to be.


Alaric = Alphonse + Elric? IDK.

Makes sense to me. I HAVEN'T WATCHED IT IN A LONG TIME LEAVE ME ALONE.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
May 14 2013 18:59 GMT
#3528
On May 15 2013 03:54 jimthelege wrote:
Random question for the always knowledgable TL LoL forumers: got 4800 ip, whose generally more fun to play: Brand or Orianna?

I didn't find Orianna 'fun' to play. I found her rewarding if you could play her, but I wouldn't characterize it as fun. No idea about Brand.
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
May 14 2013 18:59 GMT
#3529
On May 15 2013 03:54 jimthelege wrote:
Random question for the always knowledgable TL LoL forumers: got 4800 ip, whose generally more fun to play: Brand or Orianna?


Never played Brand but Orianna is super cool, if super hard.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
May 14 2013 19:12 GMT
#3530
Ori has got to have THE MOST SATISFYING aoe combo in the game. Team up with a ball delivery system for best results.
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
May 14 2013 19:17 GMT
#3531
On May 15 2013 03:54 jimthelege wrote:
Random question for the always knowledgable TL LoL forumers: got 4800 ip, whose generally more fun to play: Brand or Orianna?

Brand plays very much as an in-your-face burst mage. The original nerfs to him hurt since you lose a lot of ranged threat so you can't just mindlessly lane bully your way to victory but his burst is still quite high and the passive is good against hp stacking champions. However, his only form of CC is conditional and a skillshot at the same time and there is an element of RNG to his ultimate.

Orianna can play both in an aggressive and controlling fashion lane and is very flexible. Her Ultimate Shockwave is also incredibly powerful both as an AoE nuke in and of itself, but also in setting up the follow-up from your team to wreck people. Her strength, utility and flexibility makes her a very high pick in competitive play as a result.

Think about the kind of playstyle you enjoy and see what suits you best. Have you tried the champions before in free weeks? Which did you enjoy more? Etc.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 14 2013 19:19 GMT
#3532
Both Orianna and Brand have the "I just fucking outplayed this guy so hard" moments. Orianna definitely more viable though.
liftlift > tsm
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-14 19:22:58
May 14 2013 19:20 GMT
#3533
On May 15 2013 03:54 jimthelege wrote:
Random question for the always knowledgable TL LoL forumers: got 4800 ip, whose generally more fun to play: Brand or Orianna?


Go Orianna. Brand's ultimate is hit or miss. Generally, it's a miss though. Feels really terrible. On the other hand, you have Orianna who has a lot of control in team fights, and her skillset is applicable in all types of plays/team composition. The biggest thing is that until you learn her better, her ult is enough to make up for some lacking plays. She can be used easily in the AoE team comps.
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-14 19:35:13
May 14 2013 19:32 GMT
#3534
Orianna ofc. You can change whole game with one successful protect+ultimate

also you can buy soon to be best skin in game, TPA Orianna.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 14 2013 19:43 GMT
#3535
Brand is super cool and fun, but suffers a bit from the same issue as Cass from a personal standpoint, which is that I need some farm/items (which happens to consist of rylai+something to alleviate your mana consumption in both cases) to reach the full "fun" potential.
Brand's kit isn't amazing or anything, but even without his ult, he can check bushes with Q, has a stun if you jump him, a respectable AoE nuke (ablaze ratio is 0.75 on his W) and every spell leads to a 4s 35% slow to anyone hit thanks to his passive, which helps a lot creating space in teamfights, kiting, and slowly wearing people down in the clean-up phase when you can't really get too close to an opponent or he'll just gapclose+finish off your 400 remaining HP.
(Obviously as a burst mage with somewhat short range you'll actually either devastate the enemy team or get dove and be the first to die (though oftimes both, amusingly) so those cases are far from your run of the mill Brand games, but I really love him in those situations and the way you can try to outplay people, get the under tower stun into 2-men ult during a gank, etc. in general.)

Orianna's damage feels lower without items, but her range is greater, she has some pretty huge utility, and her laning is pretty fun thanks to her passive and shield which open up a bunch of ways to outplay your opponent(s). Items give her damage, and I find her less fun during the clean-up phases because while she's excellent at supporting the rest of the team (esp. with W, or just Q to give vision of the bushes, etc.) she's also much more straightforward than Brand. So she feels more rewarding in the teamfights proper, but much less in the aftermath phase.

She's also more versatile, safer both in lane and teamfights, has more synergy and doesn't suffer from the issues associated with burst mages currently (not enough instagib potential and fall-off too early to make up for the lack/absence of utility which is sought out a lot in AP picks now).
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
ArchAngelSC
Profile Joined April 2012
England706 Posts
May 14 2013 19:43 GMT
#3536
Okay guys.... Can someone explain to me why I'm getting +10-13 points per win and then -17-23 points per loss? I knew that sort of thing happened when you were getting close to a promotion series, but I've been stuck at 0 points for days now because not matter how many games I win in a row, two losses resets me back to 0 points.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-14 19:51:56
May 14 2013 19:51 GMT
#3537
On May 15 2013 04:43 ArchAngelSC wrote:
Okay guys.... Can someone explain to me why I'm getting +10-13 points per win and then -17-23 points per loss? I knew that sort of thing happened when you were getting close to a promotion series, but I've been stuck at 0 points for days now because not matter how many games I win in a row, two losses resets me back to 0 points.


Because your mmr is really low.Check the average league of your opponents/teammates and you'll notice they are lower than you even if they are higher pick.Welcome to the club lol.
Jizla
Profile Joined July 2011
Scotland235 Posts
May 14 2013 20:16 GMT
#3538
Wow, thanks for all the responses!!!! I think I'm gonna go with Orianna, I like the idea of a safe laning phase!!!! never been my strongest point.
Vanished.... Like a wrinkly ninja.....
ArchAngelSC
Profile Joined April 2012
England706 Posts
May 14 2013 20:20 GMT
#3539
On May 15 2013 04:51 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2013 04:43 ArchAngelSC wrote:
Okay guys.... Can someone explain to me why I'm getting +10-13 points per win and then -17-23 points per loss? I knew that sort of thing happened when you were getting close to a promotion series, but I've been stuck at 0 points for days now because not matter how many games I win in a row, two losses resets me back to 0 points.


Because your mmr is really low.Check the average league of your opponents/teammates and you'll notice they are lower than you even if they are higher pick.Welcome to the club lol.

See that's what I thought but then that makes no sense. I've won more than 50% of my games since getting in to ranked. During normals leveling up to 30 I was playing with almost purely plat/diamond smurfs. And I often get teamed with platinum league players now that I'm in ranked. So all of those details confuse me ....
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11749 Posts
May 14 2013 20:23 GMT
#3540
That is what this system is designed to do. It is designed to confuse you and obscure how it works. I don't know WHY it is like that, though.
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