EPTafter playing it yesterday, whoever you are, i think you're right. granted it was only one game top, and like all but one of my lissandra games, i lost. and i also built like an idiot (cloth5 against singed lulz) but i can see her being pretty dominant there whereas in mid she gets eaten up by a lot of bad matchups.
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kainzero
United States5211 Posts
after playing it yesterday, whoever you are, i think you're right. granted it was only one game top, and like all but one of my lissandra games, i lost. and i also built like an idiot (cloth5 against singed lulz) but i can see her being pretty dominant there whereas in mid she gets eaten up by a lot of bad matchups. | ||
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komokun
France343 Posts
On May 15 2013 02:56 Numy wrote: If you watch the interview on gamespot he explains it. He never even realized until he upgraded his boots. It's a bad mistake but they were so far ahead it's not too bad. I was more surprised that NO ONE on CLG noticed, I mean you can have pretty dumb oversights when under pressure (Nien backdoor hello) but it makes me question how often other members of CLG press tab. | ||
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Alzadar
Canada5009 Posts
Learned the hard way, was playing Elise vs fed TF, he ulted on to me and I stunned as he appeared but he got a gold card off, and my stun wore off first despite my Treads.  | ||
onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On May 15 2013 02:58 AsmodeusXI wrote: ... Fine, you people with your logic and grammar win this time! *mustache twirl, cape ruffle, escape through open window* Just look at his name, he clearly is an authority on all things FMA. On May 15 2013 03:19 kainzero wrote: i think someone here suggested lissandra top is better than lissandra mid. after playing it yesterday, whoever you are, i think you're right. granted it was only one game top, and like all but one of my lissandra games, i lost. and i also built like an idiot (cloth5 against singed lulz) but i can see her being pretty dominant there whereas in mid she gets eaten up by a lot of bad matchups. I still think she's good mid, her roaming potential is strong and her laning isn't a bad as everyone makes it out to be. | ||
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AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On May 15 2013 03:34 onlywonderboy wrote: Just look at his name, he clearly is an authority on all things FMA. I still think she's good mid, her roaming potential is strong and her laning isn't a bad as everyone makes it out to be. Alaric = Alphonse + Elric? IDK. | ||
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Jizla
Scotland235 Posts
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
Makes sense to me. I HAVEN'T WATCHED IT IN A LONG TIME LEAVE ME ALONE. | ||
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Dgiese
United States2687 Posts
On May 15 2013 03:54 jimthelege wrote: Random question for the always knowledgable TL LoL forumers: got 4800 ip, whose generally more fun to play: Brand or Orianna? I didn't find Orianna 'fun' to play. I found her rewarding if you could play her, but I wouldn't characterize it as fun. No idea about Brand. | ||
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AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On May 15 2013 03:54 jimthelege wrote: Random question for the always knowledgable TL LoL forumers: got 4800 ip, whose generally more fun to play: Brand or Orianna? Never played Brand but Orianna is super cool, if super hard. | ||
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
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MoonBear
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
On May 15 2013 03:54 jimthelege wrote: Random question for the always knowledgable TL LoL forumers: got 4800 ip, whose generally more fun to play: Brand or Orianna? Brand plays very much as an in-your-face burst mage. The original nerfs to him hurt since you lose a lot of ranged threat so you can't just mindlessly lane bully your way to victory but his burst is still quite high and the passive is good against hp stacking champions. However, his only form of CC is conditional and a skillshot at the same time and there is an element of RNG to his ultimate. Orianna can play both in an aggressive and controlling fashion lane and is very flexible. Her Ultimate Shockwave is also incredibly powerful both as an AoE nuke in and of itself, but also in setting up the follow-up from your team to wreck people. Her strength, utility and flexibility makes her a very high pick in competitive play as a result. Think about the kind of playstyle you enjoy and see what suits you best. Have you tried the champions before in free weeks? Which did you enjoy more? Etc. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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ketchup
14521 Posts
On May 15 2013 03:54 jimthelege wrote: Random question for the always knowledgable TL LoL forumers: got 4800 ip, whose generally more fun to play: Brand or Orianna? Go Orianna. Brand's ultimate is hit or miss. Generally, it's a miss though. Feels really terrible. On the other hand, you have Orianna who has a lot of control in team fights, and her skillset is applicable in all types of plays/team composition. The biggest thing is that until you learn her better, her ult is enough to make up for some lacking plays. She can be used easily in the AoE team comps. | ||
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Mensol
14536 Posts
 also you can buy soon to be best skin in game, TPA Orianna. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Brand's kit isn't amazing or anything, but even without his ult, he can check bushes with Q, has a stun if you jump him, a respectable AoE nuke (ablaze ratio is 0.75 on his W) and every spell leads to a 4s 35% slow to anyone hit thanks to his passive, which helps a lot creating space in teamfights, kiting, and slowly wearing people down in the clean-up phase when you can't really get too close to an opponent or he'll just gapclose+finish off your 400 remaining HP. (Obviously as a burst mage with somewhat short range you'll actually either devastate the enemy team or get dove and be the first to die (though oftimes both, amusingly) so those cases are far from your run of the mill Brand games, but I really love him in those situations and the way you can try to outplay people, get the under tower stun into 2-men ult during a gank, etc. in general.) Orianna's damage feels lower without items, but her range is greater, she has some pretty huge utility, and her laning is pretty fun thanks to her passive and shield which open up a bunch of ways to outplay your opponent(s). Items give her damage, and I find her less fun during the clean-up phases because while she's excellent at supporting the rest of the team (esp. with W, or just Q to give vision of the bushes, etc.) she's also much more straightforward than Brand. So she feels more rewarding in the teamfights proper, but much less in the aftermath phase. She's also more versatile, safer both in lane and teamfights, has more synergy and doesn't suffer from the issues associated with burst mages currently (not enough instagib potential and fall-off too early to make up for the lack/absence of utility which is sought out a lot in AP picks now). | ||
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ArchAngelSC
England706 Posts
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On May 15 2013 04:43 ArchAngelSC wrote: Okay guys.... Can someone explain to me why I'm getting +10-13 points per win and then -17-23 points per loss? I knew that sort of thing happened when you were getting close to a promotion series, but I've been stuck at 0 points for days now because not matter how many games I win in a row, two losses resets me back to 0 points. Because your mmr is really low.Check the average league of your opponents/teammates and you'll notice they are lower than you even if they are higher pick.Welcome to the club lol. | ||
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Jizla
Scotland235 Posts
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ArchAngelSC
England706 Posts
On May 15 2013 04:51 nafta wrote: Because your mmr is really low.Check the average league of your opponents/teammates and you'll notice they are lower than you even if they are higher pick.Welcome to the club lol. See that's what I thought but then that makes no sense. I've won more than 50% of my games since getting in to ranked. During normals leveling up to 30 I was playing with almost purely plat/diamond smurfs. And I often get teamed with platinum league players now that I'm in ranked. So all of those details confuse me .... | ||
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Simberto
Germany12073 Posts
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