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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22456 Posts
May 14 2013 21:33 GMT
#3561
On May 15 2013 06:28 thenexusp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2013 06:15 mordek wrote:
On May 15 2013 06:13 thenexusp wrote:
On May 15 2013 05:23 Simberto wrote:
That is what this system is designed to do. It is designed to confuse you and obscure how it works. I don't know WHY it is like that, though.

Can we avoid statements like this please? It's like saying "League of Legends was designed to cater to casual noobs who don't know how to play real games"

I think he was only referring to the league/"elo" display system not the game...

Yes, and saying it is "designed to" be confusing is disingenuous. maybe it is "is" confusing but the developers certainly didn't intend for people to get confused by it.


They pretty much did tho. Its no longer showing elo for that very reason.

If you give people a high point of X they believe they belong there. much better to muddle the waters and leave people unsure of where they are so they dont complain there in the wrong spot.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-14 21:35:33
May 14 2013 21:33 GMT
#3562
Was TF a "troll pick" at any point since beta? Oo

My first game was with LeBlanc. Then I played Katarina, liked her, spammed her for the remainder of the free week (I think I started playing on a... wednesday? Thursday at the later), after buying Ashe with my first 450 IP because archer with frost shot reminded me of Drow Ranger, who was one of the heroes I played at my scrub level in DotA.
Then I looked at all the "low-cost" female champs (again because of DotA, where all heroes I had liked playing but Nightstalker were females, so maybe the archetypes would be similar), and their kits, settled on either Janna or Morgana, bought Morgana in the end (back in June 2011 so I can take hipster credit), spammed her, had another look, liked Irelia, bought her.
I can't remember if my third was Swain (after playing against one with Morg; we won, but his ult seemed cool even though I had absolutely no idea what it did when I saw it) or Singed. Prob. Swain, followed by Singed then Renekton (barely played those 2).

The irony is that I mostly bought champs which I liked thematically/visually, without testing them even once, and I liked them all, but I never bought the champs I got around testing a bunch (Katarina, Mordekaiser, Kog'Maw, all of whom I liked a lot, Kog because of the ult and W range though).
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
May 14 2013 21:33 GMT
#3563
On May 15 2013 06:28 thenexusp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2013 06:15 mordek wrote:
On May 15 2013 06:13 thenexusp wrote:
On May 15 2013 05:23 Simberto wrote:
That is what this system is designed to do. It is designed to confuse you and obscure how it works. I don't know WHY it is like that, though.

Can we avoid statements like this please? It's like saying "League of Legends was designed to cater to casual noobs who don't know how to play real games"

I think he was only referring to the league/"elo" display system not the game...

Yes, and saying it is "designed to" be confusing is disingenuous. maybe it is "is" confusing but the developers certainly didn't intend for people to get confused by it.

I'm actually pretty sure they did and that's why Elo became MMR and LP
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
May 14 2013 21:34 GMT
#3564
On May 15 2013 06:33 Alaric wrote:
Was TF a "troll pick" at any point since beta? Oo

In beta he had an AoE stun on gold card and destiny on w

He's always been top tier if not the most broken champ in the whole game
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
May 14 2013 21:36 GMT
#3565
Right, I thought the whole reason for the elo / league changes was to confuse people so that they didn't really know where they stand so they could apply positive thinking. Ignorance is bliss and all.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 14 2013 21:36 GMT
#3566
Yeah I meant AP TF sry. From personal experience the only "troll" thing with TF since I started is that AD TF as been less and less seen, and more and more perceived as bad/troll, but I never saw AP TF being considered "troll".
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 14 2013 21:37 GMT
#3567
There was a time when TF was considered a troll pick right after Riot nerfed the range of his ult.
liftlift > tsm
MCMilo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States365 Posts
May 14 2013 21:44 GMT
#3568
My "favorites" progression starting from level 1 is probably Kennen --> Nidalee --> Janna --> Ashe --> TF --> Nami.

First game was Taric with Radiance toggle. ezgame ezlyfe
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
May 14 2013 21:45 GMT
#3569
On May 15 2013 06:37 wei2coolman wrote:
There was a time when TF was considered a troll pick right after Riot nerfed the range of his ult.

THIS CHAMP GOT NERFED HE MUST BE TRASH NOW.
The legend of Darien lives on
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 14 2013 21:49 GMT
#3570
On May 15 2013 06:45 mr_tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2013 06:37 wei2coolman wrote:
There was a time when TF was considered a troll pick right after Riot nerfed the range of his ult.

THIS CHAMP GOT NERFED HE MUST BE TRASH NOW.

That was the general sentiment in NA scene; then again NA TF's have always been trash.
liftlift > tsm
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
May 14 2013 21:50 GMT
#3571
Is there a champ that wasn't considered bad for quite a while after any nerf?Like a lot of people even considered sona too weak after the hp reduction lol.

On topic my first champs were rather weird:

Jax>Cho>Urgot>J4.
captharlock
Profile Joined September 2010
United States223 Posts
May 14 2013 21:51 GMT
#3572
My very first game was with Miss Fortune. First buy was Ashe because she was so cheap in IP. First love was Sona after trying her on a free week.
Baneslayer Angel could be hungover, slightly blind, and texting while flying and still win the game
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
May 14 2013 21:53 GMT
#3573
Leona first love forever. First purchase, Diana, and shit's gone downhill ever since.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 14 2013 21:53 GMT
#3574
On May 15 2013 06:50 nafta wrote:
Is there a champ that wasn't considered bad for quite a while after any nerf?Like a lot of people even considered sona too weak after the hp reduction lol.

On topic my first champs were rather weird:

Jax>Cho>Urgot>J4.

Lee Sin. Even upon first initial Q nerfs, he was still widely played.
liftlift > tsm
Serelitz
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands2895 Posts
May 14 2013 21:54 GMT
#3575
For me it was something like Cho > Jax > Vlad > Leona.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
May 14 2013 21:55 GMT
#3576
On May 15 2013 06:49 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2013 06:45 mr_tolkien wrote:
On May 15 2013 06:37 wei2coolman wrote:
There was a time when TF was considered a troll pick right after Riot nerfed the range of his ult.

THIS CHAMP GOT NERFED HE MUST BE TRASH NOW.

That was the general sentiment in NA scene; then again NA TF's have always been trash.

Doubt it was just NA.
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
May 14 2013 21:58 GMT
#3577
Speaking of first champs and stuff.

First champ I bought with IP was Ori. She was pretty OP at the time and I was only playing blind normals (draft didn't exist), so I went for it !

Then I discovered Udyr. And Pantheon.
The legend of Darien lives on
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
May 14 2013 22:00 GMT
#3578
First champ was Ashe, first IP was Vayne, first RP was Riven.
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
May 14 2013 22:01 GMT
#3579
my firsts are ashe/annie/janna/riven.

of that group i feel comfortable playing riven and that's probably it. and my riven isn't even that good. i still like janna but i feel way more comfortable on sona should i play support.

i think too many jannas flash ult initiate, which i think is terrible.
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
May 14 2013 22:15 GMT
#3580
On May 15 2013 06:37 wei2coolman wrote:
There was a time when TF was considered a troll pick right after Riot nerfed the range of his ult.

When I first started playing this game literally the only person that ever played TF was jiji and no one took TF seriously until CLG started incorporated TF into their poke comp, but even then they ended up replacing TF with AP kog and no one saw TF again until the Asians started busting it out. I remember when I first started playing TF because jiji seemed to have a lot of fun with it and randoms in soloqueue would call me a troll or say that TF is just a garbage champ and things like that.
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