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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35142 Posts
May 10 2013 03:42 GMT
#2761
On May 10 2013 12:40 Sufficiency wrote:
Oh hey Idra is not part of EG anymore. I like EG so much more now, lol.

Ditto.

+ Show Spoiler +
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Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
May 10 2013 03:44 GMT
#2762
Segue.

The more you know~
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35142 Posts
May 10 2013 03:46 GMT
#2763
On May 10 2013 12:44 Ketara wrote:
Segue.

The more you know~

Firefox said it was wrong, I gave no fucks.
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
May 10 2013 03:48 GMT
#2764
On May 10 2013 12:46 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 12:44 Ketara wrote:
Segue.

The more you know~

Firefox said it was wrong, I gave no fucks.

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I got your back bro
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
May 10 2013 03:48 GMT
#2765
On May 10 2013 10:56 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 10:53 Badboyrune wrote:
I wonder if riot sat down at the office and said 'yes manaless champions always turn outfit very good and are easy to balance. Lets make more of those!'

Op'd champs sell better than underpowered ones. I mean, I'm not saying there's a conflict of interest for initial balancing and money made; but....

Its just as easy to introduce a champ with mana that is OP as a manaless champ that is OP...

Then easier to fix 1 patch later...
Freeeeeeedom
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 10 2013 03:51 GMT
#2766
On May 10 2013 12:48 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 10:56 wei2coolman wrote:
On May 10 2013 10:53 Badboyrune wrote:
I wonder if riot sat down at the office and said 'yes manaless champions always turn outfit very good and are easy to balance. Lets make more of those!'

Op'd champs sell better than underpowered ones. I mean, I'm not saying there's a conflict of interest for initial balancing and money made; but....

Its just as easy to introduce a champ with mana that is OP as a manaless champ that is OP...

Then easier to fix 1 patch later...

Well negligible manacost champs might as well be manaless.
liftlift > tsm
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
May 10 2013 03:54 GMT
#2767
On May 10 2013 12:03 dae wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 11:54 Amui wrote:
On May 10 2013 10:59 eParadox wrote:
On May 10 2013 10:56 101toss wrote:
On May 10 2013 10:53 Badboyrune wrote:
I wonder if riot sat down at the office and said 'yes manaless champions always turn outfit very good and are easy to balance. Lets make more of those!'

it's 2013, nobody wants to deal with mana problems

Corki is silently crying in the corner while riot is making all these manaless champions.


Anivia*

No other champ in the game spends 400+ mana to clear one wave of creeps.


But building mana on anivia is actually a good build and works.

Her base damages and scaling and cc is really good to compensate.

Corki is just sad.

Corki actually has the highest base damage skills of any ADC (at least at early levels). Ran IBG/BC Corki Top a few times with decent success. Certainly not the new FotM but it can work.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35142 Posts
May 10 2013 03:59 GMT
#2768
On May 10 2013 12:48 xes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 12:46 Gahlo wrote:
On May 10 2013 12:44 Ketara wrote:
Segue.

The more you know~

Firefox said it was wrong, I gave no fucks.

[image loading]

I got your back bro

*slowbrofist
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
May 10 2013 04:00 GMT
#2769
Wtf, DC Comics is releasing a Dota game...

http://www.infinitecrisis.com/en
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 04:16:28
May 10 2013 04:03 GMT
#2770
On May 10 2013 13:00 sob3k wrote:
Wtf, DC Comics is releasing a Dota game...

http://www.infinitecrisis.com/en

Yeah, after the Lord of the Rings one I'm not too surprised, hopefully it's better, I hated that game >_>

I liked Awesomenauts quite a bit though. I think it did a really good job of encapsulating the MOBA experience into a quick paced game that requires some still but isn't overwhelming.

Edit: After watching some videos it seems that Dominion is the game game mode xD. All the videos show a round map with capture points...
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 04:21:20
May 10 2013 04:18 GMT
#2771
I took a quick look. The skills of these champs look like they were copypasted from LoL.

Ex: Wonderwoman
Passive: Volibear (low hp heal)
Q: Thresh Q (grab + dash)
W: Lee Sin W (dash + shield)
E: Kayle E/ Malphite W (AoE auto, more damage)
R: Galio ult (taunt + boom)
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Kouda
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2205 Posts
May 10 2013 04:21 GMT
#2772
Why do i see so many Talons on streams right now o-o
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
May 10 2013 04:22 GMT
#2773
On May 10 2013 13:18 ticklishmusic wrote:
I took a quick look. The skills of these champs look like they were copypasted from LoL.

Ex: Wonderwoman
Passive: Volibear
Q: Thresh Q
W: Lee Sin W
E: Basically Kayle E (or Malphite W)
R: Galio ult

I mean there are a fair amount of similarities between Dota and LoL as well, just general MOBA bleed over
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 04:31:03
May 10 2013 04:26 GMT
#2774
I think you guys have Aatrox's passive all wrong.

It's not at all a revival passive. It's just a resource refund passive with a weird refund condition (dying)

Ignoring lifesteal and his W passive, if Aatrox has 1000 health, he can only ever survive 1000 damage, regardless of how he tries to chain together his abilities. He needs to spend health to charge his passive, and health he spends is health that's not being used to absorb damage.

EDIT: I guess his E refunds health when it hits champs too? So basically he gets some free lifesteal and 'spell vamp'.

EDIT2: this also depends on whether overkill damage is wasted or gets applied to his new health -- I would think it is the latter, given how it's an instant health restore and not a revival thing

EDIT3: Although I guess the passive essentially means he can lifesteal past his maximum health (spent health is shuttled away somewhere safe) as long as he stays in combat. Hmmmm
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11505 Posts
May 10 2013 04:27 GMT
#2775
I think we have reached the point where any new champ ability in this top-down moba style game can be described as a combination/similarity to existing skills. There is really only so many different things an ability can do, and most of it has been done before in between 100+ LoL champions and however many Dota heros exist.
zodde
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1908 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 04:36:35
May 10 2013 04:36 GMT
#2776
On May 10 2013 13:26 thenexusp wrote:
I think you guys have Aatrox's passive all wrong.

It's not at all a revival passive. It's just a resource refund passive with a weird refund condition (dying)

Ignoring lifesteal and his W passive, if Aatrox has 1000 health, he can only ever survive 1000 damage, regardless of how he tries to chain together his abilities. He needs to spend health to charge his passive, and health he spends is health that's not being used to absorb damage.

EDIT: I guess his E refunds health when it hits champs too? So basically he gets some free lifesteal and 'spell vamp'.

EDIT2: this also depends on whether overkill damage is wasted or gets applied to his new health -- I would think it is the latter, given how it's an instant health restore and not a revival thing

EDIT3: Although I guess the passive essentially means he can lifesteal past his maximum health (spent health is shuttled away somewhere safe) as long as he stays in combat. Hmmmm


He can stack up his passive by using his spells, then lifesteal and have more HP than his max health. So he'll be much easier to all in when he just arrives in lane compared to when he's been pushing a few waves already. I wonder if there will be an easy way for his enemies to tell how much his passive is going to heal him.

Edit: You already wrote that in your third edit ^^
silencefc
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States875 Posts
May 10 2013 04:47 GMT
#2777
On May 10 2013 13:18 ticklishmusic wrote:
I took a quick look. The skills of these champs look like they were copypasted from LoL.

Ex: Wonderwoman
Passive: Volibear (low hp heal)
Q: Thresh Q (grab + dash)
W: Lee Sin W (dash + shield)
E: Kayle E/ Malphite W (AoE auto, more damage)
R: Galio ult (taunt + boom)


People said the same about LoL champs from DotA.
Slice like a goddamn hammer.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 05:17:34
May 10 2013 05:14 GMT
#2778
On May 10 2013 13:36 zodde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 13:26 thenexusp wrote:
I think you guys have Aatrox's passive all wrong.

It's not at all a revival passive. It's just a resource refund passive with a weird refund condition (dying)

Ignoring lifesteal and his W passive, if Aatrox has 1000 health, he can only ever survive 1000 damage, regardless of how he tries to chain together his abilities. He needs to spend health to charge his passive, and health he spends is health that's not being used to absorb damage.

EDIT: I guess his E refunds health when it hits champs too? So basically he gets some free lifesteal and 'spell vamp'.

EDIT2: this also depends on whether overkill damage is wasted or gets applied to his new health -- I would think it is the latter, given how it's an instant health restore and not a revival thing

EDIT3: Although I guess the passive essentially means he can lifesteal past his maximum health (spent health is shuttled away somewhere safe) as long as he stays in combat. Hmmmm


He can stack up his passive by using his spells, then lifesteal and have more HP than his max health. So he'll be much easier to all in when he just arrives in lane compared to when he's been pushing a few waves already. I wonder if there will be an easy way for his enemies to tell how much his passive is going to heal him.

Edit: You already wrote that in your third edit ^^


Well, that opens up some possibilities for abuse. Put him in the jungle, farm for 20 minutes then come out with basically 20K effective hp or something for a massive midlane push.

Well, it'd be more like double his max hp with incredibly diminishing benefit past that b/c I assume when he revives his hp can't go over max... but who knows. If this is the case its like Anivia egg that has to be "charged", without the CD, and lets you move and stuff while it happens.
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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
May 10 2013 05:15 GMT
#2779
I'm almost positive that there'll be a cap on it. Will be interesting to see the cap, how long before it begins draining, and how fast it drains.
It's your boy Guzma!
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
May 10 2013 05:21 GMT
#2780
On May 10 2013 13:27 Simberto wrote:
I think we have reached the point where any new champ ability in this top-down moba style game can be described as a combination/similarity to existing skills. There is really only so many different things an ability can do, and most of it has been done before in between 100+ LoL champions and however many Dota heros exist.

Q - eject target target champions controller's DVD drive. Damage based off of how long before it is next closed. Damage scales based on number of, and manufacturer of drives.
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