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Diizzy
United States828 Posts
. shy cause he have balls of steel. stanley just fucken outplays you no matter what | ||
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
On March 22 2013 04:58 Diizzy wrote: stanley or shy. maknoon overrated imo . shy cause he have balls of steel. stanley just fucken outplays you no matter whatBut maknoon has Summoner spell: Summon Watch. That shit's OP. | ||
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
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Elanshin
Australia216 Posts
Most korean top laners are quite team orientated threats. They have tended to go for bruiser/damage type champions who can snowball and be a massive threat to the rest of the team. This makes it quite volatile, small slipups can snowball the lane heavily as can jungle presence thus it is hard to call player x to be the best here. Then there are other top laners like stanley who almost always builds against his lane opponent. If you study his builds, he will almost always build to survive the lane, bully it then be a threat because hes pummeled the opponents top laner . That is how he crushed maknoon's elise as shen. Most Shen's build Sunfire+randuins/warmogs. Elises natural kit counters this, but stanley builds mr and enough damage that he just crushes elise. Finally you have people who like assasin top (voyboy is someone that comes to mind). Total snowball or bust. When you start breaking top laners down like this, you can easily see why there is no possible way to name someone as the best top laner. how do you value someone like soaz who can play some of the most versatile tops from tanks to assassins to nidalee. On the flipside, what happens when you have someone that is godlike on a few tops but if they are banned out then what? | ||
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Letmelose
Korea (South)3227 Posts
The Manager of CJ Entus Blaze and Frost. (When asked if there were any players he wished to have under his wing outside of his current roster during his interview on the Korean LoL talk show "Killing Camp") "There's one Korean player, and one foreign player. First player would be Maknoon... The foreign player would be PDD. If we divide the laning styles into two spectrums, Maknoon represents the epitome of aggressive play, and Woong represents the reactive style of play. PDD embodied both styles." Stanley of Azubu Taipei Assassins. (When asked who was the more difficult top-lane opponent between PDD and Maknoon during his interview on Inven after his S2 World Championship victory) "It is of course Maknoon. Maknoon alone was powerful enough to influence our strategies." (When asked to pick the top three players in his position during his interview on Inven) "Maknoon. Reapered and Shy." Maknoon of Najin Sword. (When asked about Expession of Najin Shield during his AMA on Inven after his OGN victory) "Expession is the only guy that overwhelms me in terms of pure game sense and talents." (When asked to pick the top three top-laners in Korea) "I'll excluding myself from the list. Expession would be my first pick, then Shy, and Ragan." | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On March 22 2013 04:58 Diizzy wrote: stanley or shy. maknoon overrated imo . shy cause he have balls of steel. stanley just fucken outplays you no matter whatStanley needs to prove that he's vastly improved at 1v2 play to be a contender. His 1v1 play is immaculate, but half the time 1v1 lane play isn't relevant anymore. And historically Stanley's 1v2 ability has been suspect--often over-estimating his champion's strength and getting himself killed in situations where he thought he was stronger than he actually was. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
Maknoon gets a lot of help in toplane... The team was originally designed around him. | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
My top 3 is Stanley, MakNooN, and Shy. In my eyes, these three are tried and true; meaning they can carry their team if given the opportunity. Even if they don't carry in the literal sense, they impose a respectable amount of map pressure with how they play. Yango brings up the good point of how Stanley isn't as experienced as his Korean counterparts at 1v2 lanes but I actually think he's improved, but I'll have to check SWL and other Asian leagues to make sure. Reapered has the talent but he's entirely unrefined. He has the mechanics but I believe his decision making is lacking. Expression I keep hearing about but I haven't watched enough games to see his game sense and talent. Anyone with VODs of examples? Flame I'll mention because I think he's improved a lot since 6-12 months ago. Obviously not as strong as Shy but I think Shy is rubbing off on Flame if IEM Worlds is any indication. Edit: PDD shares the same symptoms as the rest of iG: extremely talented, diverse champ pool but often too trollzy (imoimo). Often times I can't tell when they're serious and when they're "trying something out". | ||
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Kupon3ss
時の回廊10066 Posts
PS: Caomei #1 | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On March 24 2013 10:52 Kupon3ss wrote: iG's tendency to "innovative/troll/unorthodox" play has a lot to do with the fact that they end up playing WE most of the time, and iG feels like he's incapable of beating WE head on lategame so they feel a constant need to try out new things. PS: Caomei #1 l0l, can't tell if srs about PS. But you're right about iG's game play. Having to live in WE's shadow, you really have to shake things up against them. About Caomei, yanger and I talked about him and how he fits so well into WE's lineup. He used to be a joke of a top laner but he's made serious improves in the past year. At IPL5, he really brought his A game. But in comparison with the Koreans and Stanley, WE doesn't run plays through Caomei. He knows how to 1v2 like a boss now though. | ||
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Letmelose
Korea (South)3227 Posts
Najin Shield versus Team WE in the group stages of Stars War League Season 2. http://ko.twitch.tv/eslasia/b/371499308?t=18m30s | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
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satur9
4 Posts
There are some players who when put into a strict 1v1 situation, I've almost never seen lose such as Expression, Ssumday, or Stanely. To be fair I saw expression play almost exclusively Elise, so I can't really judge that well. Does anyone know what his strongest characters are besides Elise and Renekton? Also, I know Olaf has been falling out of favor for most top players, but at a certain point, almost every top laner was required to master him. Who do you guys think have the best lane bullying Olaf, cause I always found a good olaf very entertaining to watch. | ||
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
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Letmelose
Korea (South)3227 Posts
On March 26 2013 06:09 satur9 wrote: Put into purely a 1v1 dueling perspective, who is usually regarded as the most dominant top laner? There are some players who when put into a strict 1v1 situation, I've almost never seen lose such as Expression, Ssumday, or Stanely. To be fair I saw expression play almost exclusively Elise, so I can't really judge that well. Does anyone know what his strongest characters are besides Elise and Renekton? Also, I know Olaf has been falling out of favor for most top players, but at a certain point, almost every top laner was required to master him. Who do you guys think have the best lane bullying Olaf, cause I always found a good olaf very entertaining to watch. I believe many Korean fans would rate the likes of Ssumday, Expession, and Flame as having some of the strongest laning phase of any top-laners in the Korean scene. Expession once put down Vladimir, Kenen and Nidalee as his strongest champions in an interview. There's supposed to be a legendary match where Najin Shield was losing 1 kill to 12 against psw Ares (Ssumday's previous team) but Expession single handidly won them the game with his exceptional Nidalee. If you have DAUM potplayer downloaded, try searching for the match between psw Ares and Najin Shield. He also was pivotal in Najin Shield's run to IPL5 Korean qualifier finals, with an awesome Malphite showing against Najin Sword. You can check out his Irelia against Shy during their encounter in the latest OGN tournament, where he did quite well during the laning phase. Ragan did pretty well with Olaf. His performance with Olaf in the Olympus The Champions Winter season is how he got a name for himself. | ||
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satur9
4 Posts
Also, wasn't Reapered's Olaf very famous, or is it just cause he put SKT1 on his back during that one tournament where they beat Fnatic in the grand finals? | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21243 Posts
On March 26 2013 11:55 arb wrote: Wings of death is the best top laner hands down. Always play's 1v2 lanes and dominates them, never loses 1v1 either i imagine, which you never see because people are so scared of his 1v1 he's always 1v2ing. hahahahahahaha i like this ps pdd #1 | ||
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cascades
Singapore6122 Posts
Anyone knows who is the greater lane beast between pdd and expression? | ||
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