• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 13:10
CET 19:10
KST 03:10
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners11Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting12
Community News
[TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation10Weekly Cups (Nov 3-9): Clem Conquers in Canada4SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA8StarCraft, SC2, HotS, WC3, Returning to Blizzcon!45$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship7
StarCraft 2
General
RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview Mech is the composition that needs teleportation t [TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation Weekly Cups (Nov 3-9): Clem Conquers in Canada Craziest Micro Moments Of All Time?
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Revival: Season 3 Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest Tenacious Turtle Tussle Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection
Brood War
General
FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle BW General Discussion What happened to TvZ on Retro? Brood War web app to calculate unit interactions [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL21] RO32 Group D - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO32 Group C - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Current Meta Simple Questions, Simple Answers PvZ map balance How to stay on top of macro?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Clair Obscur - Expedition 33 Beyond All Reason Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games?
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Dyadica Gospel – a Pulp No…
Hildegard
Coffee x Performance in Espo…
TrAiDoS
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1458 users

[Patch 3.03: Quinn] General Discussion - Page 95

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 93 94 95 96 97 176 Next
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
March 09 2013 00:27 GMT
#1881
Garen still #1 top lane play him before the nerfs go through
Administrator@TL_Zess
| (• ◡•)|八 (❍ᴥ❍ʋ)
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
March 09 2013 00:30 GMT
#1882
I just got dunked on mad hard by a Renekton named Fubguns. He went pure AD and pretty much 1 shot me as Ashe.
Retvrn to Forvms
RoieTRS
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States2569 Posts
March 09 2013 00:31 GMT
#1883
On March 09 2013 02:39 Mondeezy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2013 02:23 Seuss wrote:
On March 09 2013 02:12 Mondeezy wrote:
Does anyone here play ranked 5s seriously?

If so, has it helped you improve individually or mainly in team play? Looking for some incentive to go out and find a team around my rating to see if it'll help me improve. Every time i try to play ranked 5s with friends it usually dies after about a week. Thoughts?


Playing with TL B last season made me a better jungler by far. Being in voice chat and communicating really opens your eyes to the needs of your teammates, and being able to talk about why a game went wrong afterwards is a huge boon to improvement.

The problem obviously being that organizing even a semi-serious team requires at least one person to put a huge amount of effort into getting everyone online and together frequently (think guild/raid leader level-commitment).


Yeah, this is the problem for me right now. As much as I'd like to play on a committed team and shoot for plat/diamond, between going to school full time and working 25 hours a week I don't have much time to just get on and game, much less organize a team and schedule etc.

I'm sure it's not the only way to improve - I'm sitting like borderline plat and want to push myself over. I have a goal of getting to diamond by the end of this season, so whatever time I have I'm trying to put in to improving. Maybe I should actually download lol replay and post in 5hits analysis thread, haha.


Yeah This has happened to me three times now.
Found players willing to work hard to improve. Four of them.
Then our schedules don't match up. Commiting lots of effort to trying to find time becomes too much of a chore after a few weeks, and one or more of us go inactive.
konadora, in Racenilatr's blog: "you need to stop thinking about starcraft or anything computer-related for that matter. It's becoming a bad addiction imo"
petered
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1817 Posts
March 09 2013 00:31 GMT
#1884
On March 09 2013 09:14 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2013 08:41 petered wrote:
I have barely played at all since the beginning of S3. Like, still don't know most of the new items and have no idea what the masteries are like now. A few friends are playing tonight and I thought it would be fun to make it a team event. However, I don't want to be the guy that feeds and makes it not that fun for everyone.

Is there a resource for someone who still hasn't made the transition from S2 to S3? Basically I am just looking for the go to items for bruiser, support, assassin and AP (they probably won't ever have me play ADC or jungler since I was no good at those even when I knew the items) and the standard mastery set up for those roles. Any broad suggestions would be welcome.

+ Show Spoiler +

I dunno if there are any resources but builds for AP at least haven't changed much at all with the notable exception that Tear is a lot more viable on champions that it previously wasn't viable on (it charges faster and it's cheaper plus its upgrades are better). You still want deathcap and voidstaff and probably Zhonya's maybe Abyssal's at some point. A few APs like Liandry's Torment but most of them still like deathcap builds. Of champions that need mana the only ones that really build chalice/athenes anymore are Orianna and Lux (but you could probably go Tear on Lux if you wanted). Since the athenes buff it might be more viable than Tear on some other mana reliant AP mids.

DFG isn't as great as it used to be but it's still pretty mandatory on AP assassins. AD assassins love BC. Builds basically stayed the same for them too although Warmogs is generally better than GA and against heavy AD teams Randuin's Omen is better than both for your defensive item.

Support has a multitude of viable build choices but as a general rule you want sightstone and you shouldn't buy gp10 anymore (although after the change to philo stone hits that item will probably be good to buy). Locket and/or Bulwark are good items to get after your sightstone. There's really a multitude of support items that work in S3 and it's really dependent on what your jungler is building/what support you're playing.

Bruisers have a lot of build options. Most bruisers go tanky first instead of damage first but this is still reliant on which bruiser you're playing. Attack speed centric bruisers like Jax or Irelia could probably go BotRK and Zephyr despite the BotRK nerfs (although once the Sheen buff hits and Trinity gets cheaper you'll probably be better off just going back to Trinity). AD scaling bruisers still prefer Bloodthirstier. Cooldown reliant bruisers (so lots of them) can get away with like Locket+Spirit Visage and delay damage items for later (although BC is still a good choice if you aren't gonna get Visage or something to CDR cap yourself).

The biggest thing about S3 is that there are, imo, a lot of viable build paths which vary depending on your champion, your team comp, the enemy team comp, and the flow of the game. If the people you're playing with are good you'll probably see a Locket and a Bulwark in every game.



Thanks! Odds are I still feed but I really appreciate the quick overview.
This, my friends, is the power of the Shikyo Memorial for QQ therapy thread. We make the world a better place, one chainsaw massacre prevention at a time.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 09 2013 00:33 GMT
#1885
On March 09 2013 09:30 Chrispy wrote:
I just got dunked on mad hard by a Renekton named Fubguns. He went pure AD and pretty much 1 shot me as Ashe.

I saw you play vayne against Doublelift earlier. I lol'd.
liftlift > tsm
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
March 09 2013 00:38 GMT
#1886
i like to watch hotshot and doublelift but azubu.tv is too much of a pain in the ass. I can't wait for their shitty money laundering operation or whatever their business is to collapse.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
March 09 2013 00:38 GMT
#1887
On March 09 2013 09:27 xes wrote:
Garen still #1 top lane play him before the nerfs go through

The first set of nerfs have already gone through. I don't like Garen now, went against a Top lane Vayne in Blind Pick and it was miserable lol.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
March 09 2013 00:41 GMT
#1888
On March 09 2013 09:09 Serelitz wrote:People recommending Jax are stuck too much in S2 meta where it was all DPS bruisers like Irelia/Jax. He's not bad by any means but he's not very resembling of most currently strong toplaners either.


I learned Jax in season 3, I would hardly say I'm stuck in season 2. He's not seen much in competitive play, but there 2v1 lanes in pretty much every game competitive, which you're almost never going to see in solo que.

Most of the currently popular competitive solo tops (Elise, Nidalee, Singed,) are probably going to receive several nerfs on top of the ones they've already received (at least I suspect Riot will do this). If I had to guess, Jax probably isn't going to be touched once this entire season. He's a good starting point if you want to get better at top lane. Stronger isn't necessarily better if you want to learn. I'd argue Garen is a stronger pick than Jax overall, but Garen is pretty much a brain dead champion, so I'd never recommend him if someone wants to improve their top lane skills because they're likely to pick up a lot of really bad habits.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
March 09 2013 01:01 GMT
#1889
advising somebody whos not experienced top to start with jax when current fotm is singed,elise,renek,rumble,garen etc is not a good idea
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
March 09 2013 01:17 GMT
#1890
And advising someone to play Elise because she's FOTM is?

If your answer is yes, then why? She's likely to get nerfed and she's not mechanically easy.
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
March 09 2013 01:18 GMT
#1891
yeah those guys all dunk on jax way too hard. the only one I would put as a somewhat decent matchup out of those is renekton and even then it can be tough.
Pooshlmer
Profile Joined August 2008
United States1001 Posts
March 09 2013 01:18 GMT
#1892
Because Jax gets completely wrecked by most of them.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17264 Posts
March 09 2013 01:23 GMT
#1893
On March 09 2013 10:17 zer0das wrote:
And advising someone to play Elise because she's FOTM is?

If your answer is yes, then why? She's likely to get nerfed and she's not mechanically easy.

She's not mechanically difficult.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
March 09 2013 01:32 GMT
#1894
I thought Jax could do pretty 0K against Garen and Elise by just stacking the appropriate defensive stat and bracing himself till 6, 7, sometimes 8 knowing he'll outscale them and be much stronger in teamfights.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
March 09 2013 01:34 GMT
#1895
On March 09 2013 10:32 Alaric wrote:
I thought Jax could do pretty 0K against Garen and Elise by just stacking the appropriate defensive stat and bracing himself till 6, 7, sometimes 8 knowing he'll outscale them and be much stronger in teamfights.


But that is not a good/fun way to learn a champion.
Freeeeeeedom
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
March 09 2013 01:52 GMT
#1896
Singed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.. Jax
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
March 09 2013 02:00 GMT
#1897
how..
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-09 02:11:04
March 09 2013 02:10 GMT
#1898
On March 09 2013 08:29 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2013 08:15 onlywonderboy wrote:
Best champ to learn Top lane with? Been trying Top more recently and have just been getting stomped. Any suggestions for a well rounded champ that has decent match-ups?

Play rengar. I just saw someone dunking games in a row with legendary rengar top. ad red quints armor yellow cdr blues.


pls don't give away my secrets
rengar has been OP since his last buff i don't need people playing him again
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35162 Posts
March 09 2013 02:18 GMT
#1899
On March 09 2013 11:10 gtrsrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2013 08:29 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
On March 09 2013 08:15 onlywonderboy wrote:
Best champ to learn Top lane with? Been trying Top more recently and have just been getting stomped. Any suggestions for a well rounded champ that has decent match-ups?

Play rengar. I just saw someone dunking games in a row with legendary rengar top. ad red quints armor yellow cdr blues.


pls don't give away my secrets
rengar has been OP since his last buff i don't need people playing him again

Hypothetically, would you play him(if indeed you played him) in a similar manner to Dekar173. Or as he refered to on Reddit, Best Rengar NA?

wink
wink
nudge
nudge
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
March 09 2013 02:30 GMT
#1900
i don't know who dekar173 is, but i play him ad/ad/armor/mr
rush a dragonball in a hard lane or necklace in an easy lane, or bruta in a medium lane
build the appropriate dragonball item (locket or visage), max E most of the time, win lane through attrition and go all-in when you can use his Q-ult to get double or triple Q proc

hardest lanes i've seen are diana and garen which are nigh unwinnable, everything else is pretty cake
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Prev 1 93 94 95 96 97 176 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 15h 50m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SteadfastSC 276
BRAT_OK 84
JuggernautJason49
MindelVK 16
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 36460
Rain 3481
Calm 3145
Horang2 1638
Hyuk 790
Soma 432
PianO 362
firebathero 222
hero 169
Rush 127
[ Show more ]
White-Ra 104
Barracks 80
Dewaltoss 71
TY 48
Free 32
Movie 15
Shine 14
Terrorterran 13
Bale 12
Dota 2
qojqva2874
Dendi1322
Counter-Strike
kRYSTAL_36
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King72
Other Games
gofns1493
B2W.Neo847
Beastyqt668
Lowko333
Fuzer 163
Liquid`VortiX157
QueenE81
Trikslyr56
EmSc Tv 11
Chillindude8
febbydoto4
Organizations
Other Games
EmSc Tv 11
StarCraft 2
EmSc2Tv 11
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 22 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 54
• poizon28 22
• Kozan
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Migwel
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 22
• blackmanpl 9
• Michael_bg 6
• FirePhoenix6
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 3634
• WagamamaTV393
• Ler38
League of Legends
• TFBlade984
Other Games
• imaqtpie295
• Shiphtur274
Upcoming Events
CranKy Ducklings
15h 50m
RSL Revival
15h 50m
herO vs Gerald
ByuN vs SHIN
Kung Fu Cup
17h 50m
Cure vs Reynor
Classic vs herO
IPSL
22h 50m
ZZZero vs rasowy
Napoleon vs KameZerg
OSC
1d
BSL 21
1d 1h
Tarson vs Julia
Doodle vs OldBoy
eOnzErG vs WolFix
StRyKeR vs Aeternum
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 15h
RSL Revival
1d 15h
Reynor vs sOs
Maru vs Ryung
Kung Fu Cup
1d 17h
WardiTV Korean Royale
1d 17h
[ Show More ]
BSL 21
2 days
JDConan vs Semih
Dragon vs Dienmax
Tech vs NewOcean
TerrOr vs Artosis
IPSL
2 days
Dewalt vs WolFix
eOnzErG vs Bonyth
Replay Cast
2 days
Wardi Open
2 days
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
3 days
BSL: GosuLeague
4 days
The PondCast
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
BSL: GosuLeague
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-11-07
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
CSCL: Masked Kings S3
RSL Revival: Season 3
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual

Upcoming

SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.