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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
March 06 2013 06:55 GMT
#1241
On March 06 2013 15:53 olabaz wrote:
Does anyone know the reasoning behind hot-fixing BOTRK but not Warmogs or BC?


Warmogs was never ridiculous and BC was only ridic during "preseason". Riot is gonna have to play LCS games on a BORK patch soon. They want people to know the appropriate power level of the item.
Freeeeeeedom
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
March 06 2013 06:56 GMT
#1242
Eh it's just how it's setup in general. It's generally not on the games end when people dc and it's not dynamic so it doesn't come out and say "we exploded sorreh" In general leagues pretty freakin stable. Least on NA..
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
March 06 2013 07:04 GMT
#1243
Welp, can't connect to game at all.
Seems like Phreak was trying to make waffles on the toaster again.
GettingIt
Profile Joined August 2011
1656 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-06 07:07:11
March 06 2013 07:06 GMT
#1244
Wow the servers fucked up again? Jesus riot...

But on the birghtside it'll probably be a loss prevented.
rhs408
Profile Joined January 2011
United States904 Posts
March 06 2013 07:10 GMT
#1245
Yes NA is down again sigh
1godless
Profile Joined August 2011
United States247 Posts
March 06 2013 07:15 GMT
#1246
Anyone remember when the servers had like a 50% uptime, it made lol almost like a treat... something you got only once in a while
The enemy's throne is down
fasdaf
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
138 Posts
March 06 2013 07:17 GMT
#1247
On March 06 2013 15:39 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2013 14:38 fasdaf wrote:
On March 06 2013 13:55 cLutZ wrote:
On March 06 2013 13:48 Gahlo wrote:
On March 06 2013 13:44 Alaric wrote:
What's the AS soft cap you've been talking about several times? I read the wiki last time, and it didn't mention anything of that sort.

When buying AS becomes a waste of time. Kinda like the softcaps for MS.


Well AS has a hardcap so IDK what you are talking about.

The thing that kills AS really is a few things:

1) It always scales off your crappy lvl 1 AS
2) AS reduction effects scale off your current attack speed, so Randiuns craps on it much harder than PD buffs it at lvl 18.

Randuin's Omen's attack speed debuff from the passive is additive, not multiplicative, unless it was changed this season. Honestly, all the complaints about its attack speed debuff are misplaced, since 20% really isn't all that much especially compared to the impact of the guaranteed movement speed slow (and it lost its ridiculously strong active attack speed slow too).


That wasn't my point.

The general point of AS slows being strong is true, but your example is bad because PD buffs your attack speed far more than Randuin's craps on it. Attack speed slows really aren't very common, since the only multiplicative attack speed slow that's buyable is Frozen Heart.
Also, your second point misses the point because multiplicative attack speed slows don't change the relative value of AS vs AD/Crit/etc. for dps, similar to how +% HP doesn't actually make buying HP any better relative to resists.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17294 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-06 07:19:03
March 06 2013 07:18 GMT
#1248
On March 06 2013 15:53 SirMilford wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2013 15:50 GranDim wrote:
Its been very stable for the last year, this week has more issues than most.

Does it usually just need a reset? Or will it take a few hours to find the problems. I assume that the game just doesn't get counted? Seems strange that the link they provide for reconnecting makes it seem like it is an issue on my end.

Depends on what went wrong. It's basically a case of your client not able to communicate with the server so it can tell your client the game is over/gone.

Normally the games aren't "lost," they just take awhile to appear.
twitch.tv/cratonz
dae
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada1600 Posts
March 06 2013 07:26 GMT
#1249
So, when servers went down, my entire ranked 5's team got d/c, no one from theirs did, so they proceded to just win the game, and it shows as a leave on our history. gg riot.
GranDim
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Canada1214 Posts
March 06 2013 07:31 GMT
#1250
A leave in history and -lp in my rankings, that really has to be cleaned up.
dae
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada1600 Posts
March 06 2013 07:34 GMT
#1251
And then I look at the team that beat us and they have Loss Forgiven for their next game, GG RIOT.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-06 07:42:16
March 06 2013 07:39 GMT
#1252
Is it me, or is the Client/ Server getting worse and worse each patch? More downtime, more glitches and stuff they have to fix and take down shop/ranked/etc., harder to load pages, etc.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
March 06 2013 07:48 GMT
#1253
On March 06 2013 16:06 GettingIt wrote:
Wow the servers fucked up again? Jesus riot...

But on the birghtside it'll probably be a loss prevented.
. The remaining three players on my team ended up winning so I feel not so bad about the disco
tokicheese
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada739 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-06 07:56:17
March 06 2013 07:50 GMT
#1254
I've been playing fiddle lately in jungle. I have a 75% win rate over about recent 60 games. This is at middle/low gold,

I've been going Doran first then going back at around 6:30 just shy of level 6. Then I go back buy codex/boots then rush back to blue to hit 6 then I try to gank mid or Bot asap. There is a window where your ult will come back because of the 30% cdr so you can gank with ult twice with the same blue buff. This means getting yourself a quick kill/assist easily because of the 2 ults with a flash is almost certain.

I almost always go all in Bot with flash if my support Bot has cc. The 1.5 second fear and a slow/stun makes it super easy to kill something especially if you can silence when they try to flash. It seems like Bot lanes snowball harder than top or mid because they can zone and warding stops jungle pressure.

Then I can afford a seekers armbrace easily with a bit of farm and no kills. Or possibly a large rod if I get kills or assist and a clear or two. Then I just rush Zhonya then dcap then chalice or a Mpen item if I get all blues.

In later fights I usually just dive the adc using flash/ult and fearing the, for 3 seconds then popping zhonya . Fearing someone and then draining some one makes you very very tanky especially if you got chalice for a tad of Mr and zhonya for armor so you can stay up for a few more crucial seconds before Zhonya.

You have quite good 1v1 if you find someone or a fight breaks up into small battles too with your big life steal and imba cc.

Just thought I would share something that was working for me
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ilikeredheads
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1995 Posts
March 06 2013 08:02 GMT
#1255
yay servers down AGAIN. They keep hot patching and the servers keep having problems. Riot is breaking its own game.....

Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
March 06 2013 08:04 GMT
#1256
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=401509#14

Is that really xiaoxiao posting on his own fanclub thread? LOL
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Keniji
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands2569 Posts
March 06 2013 08:21 GMT
#1257
On March 06 2013 17:04 Sufficiency wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=401509#14

Is that really xiaoxiao posting on his own fanclub thread? LOL


hahaha

that would be too good.
JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
March 06 2013 08:27 GMT
#1258
That would be pretty cool. But the profile was made today? I dunno, seems fishy.

But hey, innocent until proven guilty amirite?

xiaoxiao fighting!
LiquidLegends StaffWho is Jon Galt?
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
March 06 2013 08:40 GMT
#1259
On March 06 2013 16:50 tokicheese wrote:
I've been playing fiddle lately in jungle. I have a 75% win rate over about recent 60 games. This is at middle/low gold,

I've been going Doran first then going back at around 6:30 just shy of level 6. Then I go back buy codex/boots then rush back to blue to hit 6 then I try to gank mid or Bot asap. There is a window where your ult will come back because of the 30% cdr so you can gank with ult twice with the same blue buff. This means getting yourself a quick kill/assist easily because of the 2 ults with a flash is almost certain.

I almost always go all in Bot with flash if my support Bot has cc. The 1.5 second fear and a slow/stun makes it super easy to kill something especially if you can silence when they try to flash. It seems like Bot lanes snowball harder than top or mid because they can zone and warding stops jungle pressure.

Then I can afford a seekers armbrace easily with a bit of farm and no kills. Or possibly a large rod if I get kills or assist and a clear or two. Then I just rush Zhonya then dcap then chalice or a Mpen item if I get all blues.

In later fights I usually just dive the adc using flash/ult and fearing the, for 3 seconds then popping zhonya . Fearing someone and then draining some one makes you very very tanky especially if you got chalice for a tad of Mr and zhonya for armor so you can stay up for a few more crucial seconds before Zhonya.

You have quite good 1v1 if you find someone or a fight breaks up into small battles too with your big life steal and imba cc.

Just thought I would share something that was working for me

I always prefered the boots 2 rush on fiddle. Ulting and them just being out of range and walking away, or anything involving them just walking away. I prefer a tankier fiddle rylias rush. Even if they kill you they're eating a 30% slow from e, w, and q, and if you catch anyone with ult you they get to stay there. Fiddles cooldowns are really powerful, and I like the tanky route rather then the cdr route. It also lets you hold your ult and brawl, instead of having to dump it at the start of the fight, or burn flash to get away and ult right back in. I like tanky anything though.
Bwaaaa
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia969 Posts
March 06 2013 10:54 GMT
#1260
They always said that hotfixing is incredibly risky.......
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