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[Patch 3.02: Fake Quinn] General Discussion - Page 6

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Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14110 Posts
February 14 2013 03:47 GMT
#101
On February 14 2013 12:06 GARO wrote:
Saint jungling kass in a scrim? Can't tell which team isn't trying here..

I saw it he went normal aa staff roa sorc void. He went madrids first to help his clear time but he didn't do anything special past that and it wasn't very impressive.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
February 14 2013 03:47 GMT
#102
On February 14 2013 12:45 Gahlo wrote:

Runes and masteries don't count as bonus ad.

"Additionally, several items and champion abilities, as well as spells, buffs, runes and masteries grant bonus attack damage."
http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Attack_damage
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
February 14 2013 03:49 GMT
#103
On February 14 2013 12:46 IMoperator wrote:
They should've just kept elo then instead of making this arbitrary system.

Why?

The express goal is to hide the number from you. You don't like their goal sure, but the system is doing exactly what Riot wants it to.
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obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-14 03:54:22
February 14 2013 03:50 GMT
#104
On February 14 2013 12:45 Gahlo wrote:
herpderpi'mandidiot

I was gonna reply to that but then the edit...

Quinn looks so cool. Like Vayne except with a Falcon!

Lolking has added a thing called lol points. It's obviously supposed to be a replacement for Elo. My problem with it though is that it isn't the same thing as the hidden elo that riot uses. In fact I'm pretty sure most normal elo calculators were off by a lot.

Wanna try:
Liandry’s = way more damage and works with dots
Control L = search for items
/all commands so cool!
Akali. I no longer need special runes 0_0
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
February 14 2013 03:51 GMT
#105
On February 14 2013 12:49 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 12:46 IMoperator wrote:
They should've just kept elo then instead of making this arbitrary system.

Why?

The express goal is to hide the number from you. You don't like their goal sure, but the system is doing exactly what Riot wants it to.

What do we gain from not seeing elo?
Atokad
Profile Joined November 2010
United States204 Posts
February 14 2013 03:53 GMT
#106
I have a question and sorry if this has been answered before, but CJ entus bought blaze/frost right?

Well right now they are on OGN's stream as CJ entus team, but there are mixed players from the 2 teams.

Did they just take the best of the two teams and throw them together? or are there still two teams but just for OGN they are only using one team?
2016 Year of Losira!
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
February 14 2013 03:53 GMT
#107
On February 14 2013 12:51 IMoperator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 12:49 TheYango wrote:
On February 14 2013 12:46 IMoperator wrote:
They should've just kept elo then instead of making this arbitrary system.

Why?

The express goal is to hide the number from you. You don't like their goal sure, but the system is doing exactly what Riot wants it to.

What do we gain from not seeing elo?

People not focusing on a specific number in determining one's skill. And of course, no more discussion of elo hell :D.
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-14 03:55:52
February 14 2013 03:54 GMT
#108
On February 14 2013 12:53 beefhamburger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 12:51 IMoperator wrote:
On February 14 2013 12:49 TheYango wrote:
On February 14 2013 12:46 IMoperator wrote:
They should've just kept elo then instead of making this arbitrary system.

Why?

The express goal is to hide the number from you. You don't like their goal sure, but the system is doing exactly what Riot wants it to.

What do we gain from not seeing elo?

People not focusing on a specific number in determining one's skill. And of course, no more discussion of elo hell :D.

Well, now people just focus on their tier/division right? I don't see how it's much different lol, it just makes it harder to see where I'm actually at.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
February 14 2013 03:55 GMT
#109
On February 14 2013 12:51 IMoperator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 12:49 TheYango wrote:
On February 14 2013 12:46 IMoperator wrote:
They should've just kept elo then instead of making this arbitrary system.

Why?

The express goal is to hide the number from you. You don't like their goal sure, but the system is doing exactly what Riot wants it to.

What do we gain from not seeing elo?


Fewer people misunderstanding the system.

I think the biggest problem with the current system it that it wasn't tuned very well for initial placements. It's very easy to end up a tier and several divisions lower than your MMR would otherwise indicate, or a tier and several divisions higher, resulting in a lot of confusion when it only takes 1 game to get demoted.

If the system had done a better job placing everyone initially, a lot of the problems people are now having wouldn't be happening.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
February 14 2013 03:58 GMT
#110
On February 14 2013 12:51 IMoperator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 12:49 TheYango wrote:
On February 14 2013 12:46 IMoperator wrote:
They should've just kept elo then instead of making this arbitrary system.

Why?

The express goal is to hide the number from you. You don't like their goal sure, but the system is doing exactly what Riot wants it to.

What do we gain from not seeing elo?

It was supposed to reduce the effect of variations and fluctuations in Elo. Now division changes just lag behind changes in Elo.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
February 14 2013 04:03 GMT
#111
On February 14 2013 12:53 Atokad wrote:
I have a question and sorry if this has been answered before, but CJ entus bought blaze/frost right?

Well right now they are on OGN's stream as CJ entus team, but there are mixed players from the 2 teams.

Did they just take the best of the two teams and throw them together? or are there still two teams but just for OGN they are only using one team?


That's the OGN Club Masters where two teams come together and face another two teams.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=398354

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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
February 14 2013 04:06 GMT
#112
On February 14 2013 11:05 samthesaluki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 11:04 Requizen wrote:
On February 14 2013 11:03 samthesaluki wrote:
On February 14 2013 10:55 Requizen wrote:
On February 14 2013 09:42 samthesaluki wrote:
Ok guys so as you know i got permabanned so yes i have other accounts but losing touch of some of my friends also losing skins/runes/champs got me down do you guys honeslty think its worth me starting over ?

if not is there any other games you recommend me looking into

any thoughts?

Katawa Shoujo.


dafuq

It'll calm you, m8


if i can remain calm is starting league from scratch worth it ?


Don't you have a lvl 20+ smurf?
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
February 14 2013 04:10 GMT
#113
Do we think that the Nasus buff balances the Q bug fix?
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obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
February 14 2013 04:11 GMT
#114
On February 14 2013 13:10 Terranasaur wrote:
Do we think that the Nasus buff balances the Q bug fix?

I do. I think crit Nasus is a bad build in general and should feel bad.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
benefluence
Profile Joined January 2010
United States158 Posts
February 14 2013 04:18 GMT
#115
On February 14 2013 12:24 OutlaW- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 11:50 TheYango wrote:
On February 14 2013 11:42 arb wrote:
well theres no way it can be a nerf is there..
provided you have over 100 ad, even at lvl 1 its a buff. and it gets bigger from there.
not to mention her ult gives her 20% extra ad.

15-45% total AD = 8.1-46.6 + (0.15-0.45 bonus AD).

At level 1, it's a nerf if you have 9 or more bonus AD.
At level 18, it's a nerf if you have 632 bonus AD or more (lol).

Basically at very low levels it's pretty much always a nerf, and at very high levels it's always a buff, and breaks even somewhere in the middle.

That makes little sense considering how hard riven relies on snowballing the lane and how completely useless she is if she loses


Isn't the entire point of the change to make her less reliant on snowballing in the first place?
Bladeorade
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1898 Posts
February 14 2013 04:19 GMT
#116
I just played Shaco for the first time since nerfs... holy crap his Q is so shitty now... I don't think I'll be playing him again its so ridiculously hard to gank well now. So many angles impossible now
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
February 14 2013 04:20 GMT
#117
Crit Nasus gets his advice from Evelynn and feels good no matter how bad he is.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
zodde
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1908 Posts
February 14 2013 04:22 GMT
#118
I'm trying to smurf on NA because of EUW downtime, should i really have to play with 210-220 ms from Sweden? Any europeans that play on NA who have any tips and tricks?
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-14 04:42:21
February 14 2013 04:34 GMT
#119
so. Ohmwrecker change means philo on all junglers again?

edit: NVM, blasting wand outta nowhere.....

edit2: seriously, why the fuck is there a blasting wand in there?????
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
February 14 2013 04:44 GMT
#120
On February 14 2013 13:34 barbsq wrote:
so. Ohmwrecker change means philo on all junglers again?

edit: NVM, blasting wand outta nowhere.....

edit2: seriously, why the fuck is there a blasting wand in there?????


Because they want it to be an item for supports.

Makes sense to me!
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
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