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GregMandel
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
France822 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-03 14:45:57
February 03 2013 14:45 GMT
#1241
On February 03 2013 23:43 WhiteDog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2013 23:34 GregMandel wrote:
On February 03 2013 23:32 WhiteDog wrote:
On February 03 2013 23:27 Slayer91 wrote:
On February 03 2013 23:12 WhiteDog wrote:
On February 03 2013 18:58 OutlaW- wrote:
On February 03 2013 18:56 TheYango wrote:
My quip is with wei2coolman's statement that "Strong mechanics is actually best indicator of potential imo. You can teach strategy, much harder to teach mechanics."

My personal feeling is the opposite is the case.

Why hasn't Saint improved his terrible mechanics, then? Different people learn different things better.

He plays lol (and jungle) and can get away with bad mechanics that's all. In lol, you can win if you have 30 cs less than your opponent, as long as you just know when or how to engage, etc.

I kinda agree with Yango, but it really depends on the person as you said. I have a friend who is really good and use his brain a lot when playing SC2, I barely play the game, but when he comes back to france (he is studying in the US right now) we usually go for a 1vs1 and I always crush him purely on mechanics. Despite the fact that he plays while I don't, his mechanics are not improving while his strategies are always really interesting and thoughtful, mainly because, as he is a thoughtful guy, he doesn't think improving mechanics is also something that needs to be brained : you need to focus on it for a long period of time until it is deeply carved in your hands.
People usually think that mechanics is just referring to the movement speed of your hand, but it's not, it's how your hand is accustomed with what you want to do, and how some action can become reflexes, being fast is not all there is about mechanics.
On the other side, strategy can be really simple, the main problem being how to gather informations, which informations are relevant to what you are doing and how to process them. On some games / position, those three steps can be really easy, on other it can be really hard. Personally, I know that mechanically I'm okayish, but that I have a hard time thinking about the game and asking myself what to do, when to do it, and tend to just let my hand do the game, which is not the correct way to play the game. I'm sure a guy with bad mechanics but better understanding of the game would do way better than me, but forcing yourself to always think through the game can be a real difficulty by itself.

Yeah my posts suck but whatever. It makes sense to me because I just understood that I barely ever think strategically about what I'm doing during games.


things like expanding and building works should be a critical part of your gameplay though and if you're ignoring that you're ignoring half the game which means he's not really a smart player at all he just thinks too much about unit use and not enough on unit production

No what I meant is that he is thinking through his production, actually all his build order are well thought out. But mechanics is also about how to go beyond that, and how to produce faster, the most efficient way, etc. At some point you need to train it. I remember when I was playing WC3, at some point I decided to be better, and played a lot, grinding the ladder, and focussing entirely on mechanics for two or three months. That's a proccess a lot of people are not doing, they think that just playing is enough to exercice their mechanics, while in fact you need to be completly dedicated to it, and put aside other part of the game : you don't need a build order to be fast or to produce more.

On February 03 2013 23:30 GregMandel wrote:
You're welcome

Quick question : Is anyone else having weird bugs with the client on EUW ? I've been looking for a game for 15mns and when i clicked to cancel the queue it said I was in a lobby

And now i'm at 5:00 of queue for normals and I had no message for dodging or whatever

Still saying I was in a lobby when cancel, wtf ? O-O

I've had that two days ago, tried to reconnect, and found out I was stuck in a ghost game, couldn't play for the next 2 hours or so lol.



Lol ok i'm fked :D

Ty for your input tho

Edit : ok so I tried going into a custom game, didnt ork got stuck in champ select, and now when I wanna reconnect it says " connexion impossible for an unknown reason, go to blablabla "
HALP.

Can't connect to my smurf either TT

Yeah just tried to connect, there is a 14 min queue to log on EU W, wtf.


Doesnt give me any, queue, just says can't connect for an unknown reason

And now it also says servers are busy. Riot pls.

edit : ok works again, and indeed theres the good old infinite queue
Riot's problem i guess
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD8QLNiolfk - Racing with the sun
Argoth.
Profile Joined December 2004
Germany1961 Posts
February 03 2013 15:07 GMT
#1242
It's 30 min login queue now... fml
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-03 15:09:06
February 03 2013 15:07 GMT
#1243
im in 30 min loginqueue.

I HOPE for Riots sake that they used the 2(?) years since they had to split EU in 3 parts to work out how to recode the loginservers to handle more than what they had as limit when they split.



Riot was warned on weekends all the time wehen the queue slowly crept back in. First it was 30 secs, then it was 1 min and last month it was 5 mins. Now people try out the new rankings and its back to presplit.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
February 03 2013 15:08 GMT
#1244
EUW going cray, even normals disabled :D
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
February 03 2013 15:09 GMT
#1245
On February 04 2013 00:08 AsnSensation wrote:
EUW going cray, even normals disabled :D

You can use this time to read champion lore and talk to your friends lol.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
Norada
Profile Joined August 2010
China482 Posts
February 03 2013 15:18 GMT
#1246
one thing that came with this patch is more rage when losing your placement matches t.t
Argoth.
Profile Joined December 2004
Germany1961 Posts
February 03 2013 15:28 GMT
#1247
kk, no longer over 20K in queue, only 3mins now. Riot got their hamsters going
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
February 03 2013 15:33 GMT
#1248
On February 04 2013 00:28 Argoth. wrote:
kk, no longer over 20K in queue, only 3mins now. Riot got their hamsters going

wonder when they gonna upgrade to chocobos
Cackle™
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
February 03 2013 15:41 GMT
#1249
lol y'all crazy riot is #1 normals are available again
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-03 15:44:15
February 03 2013 15:43 GMT
#1250
On February 03 2013 23:21 Wetty wrote:
Possibly a little behind the discussion... A good 40 pages or so, but any who, my ranked division is "Les chauves-souris de Malzahar" Sadly my french is terrible, so I actually don't understand that one... anyone care to translate?

PS I put my client in French to try and help learn the language... plus, it's cool! Although, I don't know the "sayings" of any recent champs in English now >.>

You can use the lol wiki, in each champ's background page you can read (and listen to) his/her quotes in English. There aren't a lot of champs whose French VO beats the English one though (Brand, Syndra are amongst them, Draven's very good but he can't beat Erik Braa, same for Jax). Then you've got Rammus' French VO, wtfisthatthing.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
February 03 2013 16:01 GMT
#1251
Les chauves-souris de Malzahar = The bats of malzahar
i dont get it either
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-03 16:32:27
February 03 2013 16:32 GMT
#1252
On February 04 2013 01:01 Slayer91 wrote:
Les chauves-souris de Malzahar = The bats of malzahar
i dont get it either


the new division system takes random champion name + random title of any* champion

like you can have malzahars scouts

or ryze's acolytes

or darius's wizards
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-03 16:35:20
February 03 2013 16:32 GMT
#1253
On February 03 2013 23:44 Tula wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2013 22:51 Capped wrote:
On February 03 2013 22:38 Tula wrote:
Not sure if this is the right thread, but I've had a serious problem with my LoL client in the last few days. Ever since the new patch it shows me all servers as undefined, and nothing I do can change it.

Things I've done so far: Reinstalled LoL, tried to repair the files (After reinstalling), disabling my firewall completely to test if that is the problem, switched servers to all possible regions. Nothing works. Any ideas?

I've also emailed support today in the hopes that they know something, but I have no idea how long it might take before they get back to me.


Try the bypass code, i cant remember what it is now but when there was a huge undefined issue it worked for alot of people including myself.

Something like Thereisno???level all together at the screen it shows server undefined (the ??? is the bit i cannot remember)

Google around for it or maybe someone here knows..

If not, try cleaning registries and manually removing all trace of LoL from your PC before redownloading the client (redownload, not reinstall)



Thank you, that did indeed solve it. Wonder why google search didn't give me that code/link when i searched for server undefined issues, but no matter.


Glad it helped!

On February 04 2013 00:33 TheKefka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2013 00:28 Argoth. wrote:
kk, no longer over 20K in queue, only 3mins now. Riot got their hamsters going

wonder when they gonna upgrade to chocobos


Full. of. win.
Useless wet fish.
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-03 16:35:09
February 03 2013 16:34 GMT
#1254
Double post
Useless wet fish.
Louuster
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2869 Posts
February 03 2013 16:52 GMT
#1255
http://www.team-dignitas.net/leagueoflegends

So guys what do you think this announcement is?
Kim Taek Yong fighting~
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22229 Posts
February 03 2013 16:55 GMT
#1256
On February 04 2013 01:52 Louuster wrote:
http://www.team-dignitas.net/leagueoflegends

So guys what do you think this announcement is?


Second team probably. Is there an EU s3 qualified team without a team still? if so i would say that.
I dont see em releasing there current team at this time and what else is there to announce with S3 starting in a few days.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Schwopzi
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands954 Posts
February 03 2013 16:55 GMT
#1257
On February 04 2013 01:52 Louuster wrote:
http://www.team-dignitas.net/leagueoflegends

So guys what do you think this announcement is?


Full s3 roster announcement including subs?

Also, stupid 12 minute queue TT
Only the dead have seen the end of war
Schwopzi
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands954 Posts
February 03 2013 16:56 GMT
#1258
On February 04 2013 01:55 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2013 01:52 Louuster wrote:
http://www.team-dignitas.net/leagueoflegends

So guys what do you think this announcement is?


Second team probably. Is there an EU s3 qualified team without a team still? if so i would say that.
I dont see em releasing there current team at this time and what else is there to announce with S3 starting in a few days.


Are the subs allready known? oO
Only the dead have seen the end of war
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22229 Posts
February 03 2013 16:56 GMT
#1259
And EUW gos derp again. queue just went from 2 minutes to 4 hours :p
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11798 Posts
February 03 2013 16:59 GMT
#1260
How do you guys ward bot when you are on purple side? I have this problem that somehow my ad always pushes right under their turret, which means i need a ward in tribush to survive ganks. This would be fine if mid would ward their wraiths/river, but they never do. And i can't just walk there and ward it and leave my adc alone in lane for half a minute either, because if i do that, they always die.

I guess i could ward at dragon, but that feels kind of wasted , because when i already have to put down 2 wards, the second could as well cover mid, while the dragon ward is mostly useless for anything other then the one specific gank where the jungler marches from mid through river to bot.

I don't think there is any 1 ward spot that saves you from the river gank and the tribush gank when you are pushed. The half-assed ward between tribush and drake does not save you from any gank at all, because the jungler is still fast enough to kill you from both routes usually.

This is mostly a problem early, because lateron i can usually afford to walk to mid and ward there. Basically, i think that the coverage i need to be save bot when pushed is tribush and mid river, but i can't get that at minute two, which leaves a pretty big window where our lane just dies when the jungle chooses that specific gankpath. The obvious solution would be to simply not push to their turret, but good luck convincing a random AD of that. How can i solve this dilemma?
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