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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On January 18 2013 05:43 gtrsrs wrote: likewise, gragas mana costs made him god -> shit tier and mana is the reason rumble and riven will always be too good HMMMMM Solution: remove all champion's mana, put all ultimates on 20 second cooldowns. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On January 18 2013 05:42 VayneAuthority wrote: asian play wasnt very good at that time, so doesnt mean much. A combination of the mana costs and aggressive supports becoming much stronger, namely taric, brought ezrael into the spotlight. You guys can deny it and be hipsters or whatever, but the fact is that ezrael/sona was the only "okish" lane before, and he became much better once taric/leona became good picks. The synergy on ez's ult and taric's new ult is stupidly efficient and will always be a good combo I dispute the idea that Asian play "wasn't very good" at the time of the first season of OGN. By spring of 2012, several people on TL were making the claim that WE and TPA were good enough to match up against M5, and they probably were right (though obviously there were no competitions at the time to allow confirmation of this fact). Also, Ezreal's popularity didn't rise out of Ezreal+Sona or Ezreal+Taric/Leona. It came out of Ezreal+Soraka W-spam lanes in Asian play, which CLG learned from and brought back to Western play. | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
On January 18 2013 05:45 TheYango wrote: I dispute the idea that Asian play "wasn't very good" at the time of the first season of OGN. By spring of 2012, several people on TL were making the claim that WE and TPA were good enough to match up against M5, and they probably were right (though obviously there were no competitions at the time to allow confirmation of this fact). Also, Ezreal's popularity didn't rise out of Ezreal+Sona or Ezreal+Taric/Leona. It came out of Ezreal+Soraka W-spam lanes in Asian play, which CLG learned from and brought back to Western play. ezrael soraka?? ive never even heard of that. any western tournament that displays that lane you can find? | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On January 17 2013 19:12 Sufficiency wrote: I think we need another forum post which only allows the posting of "minor" tournament stream links. I've actually talked to Neo about this recently, he said it it was something we should be implementing in the subforum revamp. | ||
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Cixah
United States11285 Posts
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
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Doctorbeat
Netherlands13241 Posts
Also Lulu is pretty strong vs Akali, that stealth prevent E. | ||
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AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On January 18 2013 06:01 Cixah wrote: Are there special key words in the riot support to get them to read a ticket faster? Or is it just kind of a per basis thing. Because i really dont want to wait 4 days for someone to respond to my account being stolen. Less of words, more "draw a picture of your favorite champion." Srsly though, they've never taken long with me. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On January 18 2013 05:58 onlywonderboy wrote: I've actually talked to Neo about this recently, he said it it was something we should be implementing in the subforum revamp. Swanky. Can we get a preview? What kind of stuff are we getting? IM REALLY EXCITED (OR REALLY EASILY EXCITABLE) | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On January 18 2013 05:50 VayneAuthority wrote: ezrael soraka?? ive never even heard of that. any western tournament that displays that lane you can find? Back when Soraka was super-OP? Yea Soraka worked with everyone. | ||
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On January 18 2013 06:18 WaveofShadow wrote: Swanky. Can we get a preview? What kind of stuff are we getting? IM REALLY EXCITED (OR REALLY EASILY EXCITABLE) I was forbidden from answering specific questions lol | ||
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AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On January 18 2013 06:19 onlywonderboy wrote: I was forbidden from answering specific questions lol KEEP IT SECRET, KEEP IT SAFE. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On January 18 2013 06:18 WaveofShadow wrote: Swanky. Can we get a preview? What kind of stuff are we getting? IM REALLY EXCITED (OR REALLY EASILY EXCITABLE) Calm down Wave. Go back to being angry and sullen about the new rating system. | ||
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Kupon3ss
時の回廊10066 Posts
On January 18 2013 05:45 TheYango wrote: I dispute the idea that Asian play "wasn't very good" at the time of the first season of OGN. By spring of 2012, several people on TL were making the claim that WE and TPA were good enough to match up against M5, and they probably were right (though obviously there were no competitions at the time to allow confirmation of this fact). Also, Ezreal's popularity didn't rise out of Ezreal+Sona or Ezreal+Taric/Leona. It came out of Ezreal+Soraka W-spam lanes in Asian play, which CLG learned from and brought back to Western play. While Asian play wasn't AS good at the time, the individual skill, especially the in bot lane, were there for everybody to see despite the overall team coordination and late-game experience not entirely developed. The teams were probably about even with the west at the time (as opposed to far ahead like they are now). EZ was very popular because of the overall midgame-oriented playstyle that Asian teams tended towards in contrast to the afkfarm/turtle of CLG and TSM, which favored carries who scaled better than EZ lategame | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
Nasus support may be sneaky really really good. Wither pretty much gives you free reign to go in and chunk someone because of the massive AS AND MS slow. Plus Nasus really likes Aegis and locket and all those supporty items anyway, and his ult gives him a bit of tank to work with. A Garen+Nasus bot lane shat all over the Twitch Nami lane we were against. | ||
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Doctorbeat
Netherlands13241 Posts
On January 18 2013 06:41 Two_DoWn wrote: Quick thing from last nights troll games with 5hit: Nasus support may be sneaky really really good. Wither pretty much gives you free reign to go in and chunk someone because of the massive AS AND MS slow. Plus Nasus really likes Aegis and locket and all those supporty items anyway, and his ult gives him a bit of tank to work with. A Garen+Nasus bot lane shat all over the Twitch Nami lane we were against. But his W is like all he has though. Won't people take advantage of the window when it's on CD? It is kinda like a mini exhaust though. And it's ranged, which is a big deal. | ||
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upperbound
United States2300 Posts
On January 18 2013 06:44 Doctorbeat wrote: But his W is like all he has though. Won't people take advantage of the window when it's on CD? It is kinda like a mini exhaust though. And it's ranged, which is a big deal. I mean, the armor debuff is pretty mean too, especially against champs like Draven and Sivir that have a difficult time getting out of it when withered | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
On January 18 2013 06:44 Doctorbeat wrote: But his W is like all he has though. Won't people take advantage of the window when it's on CD? It is kinda like a mini exhaust though. And it's ranged, which is a big deal. His E has armor shred, which is noice too. And it really isnt any different from a support with an abusable CD: what do you do when Bliz hook is down? | ||
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